EP 149 Wine Ratings. Wine Enthusiast and Wine Spectator Don’t Agree.

Wines tasted in this episode:

Wine Ratings mean so much or do they? Today Gary Vaynerchuk tries to settle the score on 4 wines from California that Wine Spectator and Wine Enthusiast couldn’t agree on. Scores range from 67 to 95 on this episode so sit back and grab a nice Cabernet where we land on these.

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Have had Vine Cliff, Mount Eden and the Scion (always really good). best wine bottle-Caldwell Vineyards Rocket Science (shaped like a rocket ship) QOTD-a little late…. http://www.winelx.com

Tags: cabernet, ratings, red wines, Video, wine, Wine Enthusiast, Wine Spectator

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  • steve

    and the “black raspberry” makes its first appearance…well done…
    QOD….don’t have a camera

  • steve

    and the “black raspberry” makes its first appearance…well done…
    QOD….don’t have a camera

  • TimF

    For those of you who don’t have a camera, here’s a suggestion:

    1. Go to Menards. They have digital cameras on sale for less than $11 this week.
    2. Install the camera as a webcam.
    3. Go to youtube.com and use their quick capture feature. It will record on their site whatever shows up on your webcam.

    It probably won’t be a thing of beauty, but it will work!

  • TimF

    For those of you who don’t have a camera, here’s a suggestion:

    1. Go to Menards. They have digital cameras on sale for less than $11 this week.
    2. Install the camera as a webcam.
    3. Go to youtube.com and use their quick capture feature. It will record on their site whatever shows up on your webcam.

    It probably won’t be a thing of beauty, but it will work!

  • Susan

    Gary-
    You are good at dodging a question?!?
    (comment #14)
    You are also getting much better with the humor!
    I really can see now that since the first episode, your humor is
    MUCH
    better!
    I
    LOVE
    the whole white pepper in the eye thing you did today.
    LOVE the episode – I always love reds.
    Thanks for the education!!!
    :):):):):):)
    I realized after Fridays episode that part of the reason I love reds is the flavor profile. The flavor profile of white just are not my favorites. However, I do love really expensive champagne. And occasionally, some very dry whites. I do not like fruit bombs either. My flavor palate is old world. I am not sure how, since I have never even been to that part of the world. But, that is what I like. As you know, I would love it if you did 80% reds only. Alas, most of the rest of the vayniacs probably would not like that.
    SUPER
    episode!
    🙂

  • Susan

    Gary-
    You are good at dodging a question?!?
    (comment #14)
    You are also getting much better with the humor!
    I really can see now that since the first episode, your humor is
    MUCH
    better!
    I
    LOVE
    the whole white pepper in the eye thing you did today.
    LOVE the episode – I always love reds.
    Thanks for the education!!!
    :):):):):):)
    I realized after Fridays episode that part of the reason I love reds is the flavor profile. The flavor profile of white just are not my favorites. However, I do love really expensive champagne. And occasionally, some very dry whites. I do not like fruit bombs either. My flavor palate is old world. I am not sure how, since I have never even been to that part of the world. But, that is what I like. As you know, I would love it if you did 80% reds only. Alas, most of the rest of the vayniacs probably would not like that.
    SUPER
    episode!
    🙂

  • Gary,

    If you keep this up I might actually buy a bottle of wine and I’m afraid that’ll probably open a door I won’t be able to close. Is it possible to be a “Vayniac” without actually having drank any wine?

    I think Tangaroa and I will have to serriously think about sending you an intro.

    -Matt L

  • Gary,

    If you keep this up I might actually buy a bottle of wine and I’m afraid that’ll probably open a door I won’t be able to close. Is it possible to be a “Vayniac” without actually having drank any wine?

    I think Tangaroa and I will have to serriously think about sending you an intro.

    -Matt L

  • Jack:)

    In one of the early episodes gary challenge viewers to be the first or top ten to post. I would like it modified since a comment on the episode would really require someone to have watched the episode. So how about the first to post after watching the whole episode?

    QOTD: Sometime between now and when the Lions win a Superbowl.

    August 19th is the date of the Seneca Lake Wine Trail Event in NY.

  • Jack:)

    In one of the early episodes gary challenge viewers to be the first or top ten to post. I would like it modified since a comment on the episode would really require someone to have watched the episode. So how about the first to post after watching the whole episode?

    QOTD: Sometime between now and when the Lions win a Superbowl.

    August 19th is the date of the Seneca Lake Wine Trail Event in NY.

  • J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS

    eat a dolphins poster on Fri. may that will give you some luck 4 the game.

  • J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS

    eat a dolphins poster on Fri. may that will give you some luck 4 the game.

  • joe

    Gary, awesome episode – one of the best! I love this format of tasting a wine where two critics had such a wide swing of rating. How about the next one throwing in the ’01 or ’02 Montelena where WS (Laube) scored it under 80 each time and Parker rated it 95?
    Joe

  • joe

    Gary, awesome episode – one of the best! I love this format of tasting a wine where two critics had such a wide swing of rating. How about the next one throwing in the ’01 or ’02 Montelena where WS (Laube) scored it under 80 each time and Parker rated it 95?
    Joe

  • BlairBrooklyn

    Hey. This is my first comment. I just wanted to tell you Gary how much I love Wine Library TV. I’m 32 and most of my friends know nothing about wine, so I’m spreading the word and the gospel of WLTV. I haven’t disagreed yet with a wine that you loved and that I ordered. Cheers. Keep it up.

  • BlairBrooklyn

    Hey. This is my first comment. I just wanted to tell you Gary how much I love Wine Library TV. I’m 32 and most of my friends know nothing about wine, so I’m spreading the word and the gospel of WLTV. I haven’t disagreed yet with a wine that you loved and that I ordered. Cheers. Keep it up.

  • PJ

    Can’t trust the ratings?!?!? Now what am I supposed to do? There are 10,000 wines out there. If I try everyone I am sure that most of the time I am going to be disappointed – along with being very drunk. While the latter isn’t too bad, I have learned that bad wine down and out stinks. Yes we all have different palate but I don’t many people will take MD 20/20 over a Kendal-Jackson.

    Now I’m all worked up. What I need is a good cab. Oh wait, how can I tell? I can’t trust the ratings. ARGGH!! LOL 🙂

    As bad as the fins were this past week they should rebound against the Jets. They can only rebound. They stunk as bad as the dirty sock I chewed on last night. 🙂

  • PJ

    Can’t trust the ratings?!?!? Now what am I supposed to do? There are 10,000 wines out there. If I try everyone I am sure that most of the time I am going to be disappointed – along with being very drunk. While the latter isn’t too bad, I have learned that bad wine down and out stinks. Yes we all have different palate but I don’t many people will take MD 20/20 over a Kendal-Jackson.

    Now I’m all worked up. What I need is a good cab. Oh wait, how can I tell? I can’t trust the ratings. ARGGH!! LOL 🙂

    As bad as the fins were this past week they should rebound against the Jets. They can only rebound. They stunk as bad as the dirty sock I chewed on last night. 🙂

  • Eric S.

    I’ll admit, I do look at a lot of ratings but only as a gauge of what to add to my “wish list” or “research more” or “taste if I get the chance”. I’ll now add the Robert Young and Ehlers Estate to those lists (if I can find them around here for a decent price…ahem! – MI/IN).

    I’ll send you a intro movie when….I have some time! 🙂

  • Eric S.

    I’ll admit, I do look at a lot of ratings but only as a gauge of what to add to my “wish list” or “research more” or “taste if I get the chance”. I’ll now add the Robert Young and Ehlers Estate to those lists (if I can find them around here for a decent price…ahem! – MI/IN).

    I’ll send you a intro movie when….I have some time! 🙂

  • DrEdwardo

    Loved the line “Honey, tastes like red wine to me” LOL. Keep up the good work Gary. Too bad it is next to impossible (i.e. without paying twice face value in duty and taxes) to import wine into British Columbia (Canada, for you “Honey, tastes like red wine to me” people) as a consumer.

  • E-Rock

    Nice show. Definitly tackled an interesting subject kind of like how Jason Taylor is gonna tackle your whole team on x-mas night!!

    QOD = Soon

  • DrEdwardo

    Loved the line “Honey, tastes like red wine to me” LOL. Keep up the good work Gary. Too bad it is next to impossible (i.e. without paying twice face value in duty and taxes) to import wine into British Columbia (Canada, for you “Honey, tastes like red wine to me” people) as a consumer.

  • E-Rock

    Nice show. Definitly tackled an interesting subject kind of like how Jason Taylor is gonna tackle your whole team on x-mas night!!

    QOD = Soon

  • Gary … Interesting episode. Wine ratings are like movie reviews, find a reviewer that you agree with more than not and seek out the wines (or movies) that they enjoy the most. Simple enough.

    Also, episode #145 promised a free “Vayniac” t-shirt to a lurker … was wondering if anyone qualified (hint – me me me). If not, I’ll have to buy a couple.

  • Gary … Interesting episode. Wine ratings are like movie reviews, find a reviewer that you agree with more than not and seek out the wines (or movies) that they enjoy the most. Simple enough.

    Also, episode #145 promised a free “Vayniac” t-shirt to a lurker … was wondering if anyone qualified (hint – me me me). If not, I’ll have to buy a couple.

  • Jaye

    Funny that this episode really mirrored a hot discussion going on in the forums today. Way to keep your finger on the pulse of the wine community! As to the QOD – The spirit is willing . . .

  • Jaye

    Funny that this episode really mirrored a hot discussion going on in the forums today. Way to keep your finger on the pulse of the wine community! As to the QOD – The spirit is willing . . .

  • Spectator and Enthusiast don’t agree?! Hah…Vaynerchuck and myself don’t agree either, who said subjectivity wasn’t improtant?!
    We both live in New York, we both love wine, one of us loves a team w/ asparagus colored uniforms…hmmmm, watch out- those stinky fish are going to penetrate your palate harder than you think! The Giants will be the only under 500 team to win the super bowl baby! Bring it on Pennington, don’t let that paper arm fall off!

  • Spectator and Enthusiast don’t agree?! Hah…Vaynerchuck and myself don’t agree either, who said subjectivity wasn’t improtant?!
    We both live in New York, we both love wine, one of us loves a team w/ asparagus colored uniforms…hmmmm, watch out- those stinky fish are going to penetrate your palate harder than you think! The Giants will be the only under 500 team to win the super bowl baby! Bring it on Pennington, don’t let that paper arm fall off!

  • Bruce S

    Wine Enthusiast rates wine? Who knew? 😉

    Don’t get too excited about Christmas night. The Dolphins O sucks this year (as it does most years), but I need the free shipping, so I’m confident they’ll come through for me. You have Hannukah to keep you happy anyway.

  • Bruce S

    Wine Enthusiast rates wine? Who knew? 😉

    Don’t get too excited about Christmas night. The Dolphins O sucks this year (as it does most years), but I need the free shipping, so I’m confident they’ll come through for me. You have Hannukah to keep you happy anyway.

  • KAHUNA

    GV and all, Ehlers donates all their profit for cardiac research- I write about their winery in the forum- Hence the heart in the E on logo- You can feel good about buying this wine

  • KAHUNA

    GV and all, Ehlers donates all their profit for cardiac research- I write about their winery in the forum- Hence the heart in the E on logo- You can feel good about buying this wine

  • KAHUNA

    Video is coming as soon as I figure out my new Hi Def Video camcorder

  • KAHUNA

    Video is coming as soon as I figure out my new Hi Def Video camcorder

  • Nathan Day

    GV, I’m a Vayniac now not a lurker. I’ll send in a video soon. I love wine again! I’ll even try some white wine! what the heck!

  • Nathan Day

    GV, I’m a Vayniac now not a lurker. I’ll send in a video soon. I love wine again! I’ll even try some white wine! what the heck!

  • E-Rock

    Damn and I bought a couple bottles of the 2002 Mt. Eden based on the Wine Enthusiast write up… Hope my palate matches up with theirs

  • E-Rock

    Damn and I bought a couple bottles of the 2002 Mt. Eden based on the Wine Enthusiast write up… Hope my palate matches up with theirs

  • IanF

    Awesome episode! Go Eagles!

  • IanF

    Awesome episode! Go Eagles!

  • BigAl

    Awesome episode. You’ve made me thirsty!

  • BigAl

    Awesome episode. You’ve made me thirsty!

  • David Canada

    Gary, this episode gets my hyped! I love it…..you are the man! it gets me thinking and that is the best part of your show!
    I will get my son’s toy dolphin ans start pricking it like a vodoo doll for the Jets next game.

  • David Canada

    Gary, this episode gets my hyped! I love it…..you are the man! it gets me thinking and that is the best part of your show!
    I will get my son’s toy dolphin ans start pricking it like a vodoo doll for the Jets next game.

  • Rob M

    Another great episode, nice topic “ripped from the headlines” (the WLTV forum, sorry, I watch a little too much Law and Order). QOTD- when I get my new video recorder (soon).

  • Italian Stallion

    Another great episode Gary….I for one feel that the Wine Spectator is way off on its ratings lately….as far as James Laube’s ratings. I think he has gone mad and just doesn’t care anymore. Still, I buy wines based on my palate.

    Thanks buuuuuudy

  • Rob M

    Another great episode, nice topic “ripped from the headlines” (the WLTV forum, sorry, I watch a little too much Law and Order). QOTD- when I get my new video recorder (soon).

  • Italian Stallion

    Another great episode Gary….I for one feel that the Wine Spectator is way off on its ratings lately….as far as James Laube’s ratings. I think he has gone mad and just doesn’t care anymore. Still, I buy wines based on my palate.

    Thanks buuuuuudy

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