EP 159 Everyday Drinking Wines, From Mondavi to BV.

Wines tasted in this episode:

Today in another WLTV viewer inspired question, Gary looks at six budget priced wines. Watch and see if these are really true values or something else.

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Nice show Gary just continuing me jorney thur all the Thunder Shows back from the start and man it is a wild ride.

QOTD1: I found Wine Library TV by myself, I was really getting into wine and was searching the web and found your site and it has change my life I m glued to the computer now. QOTD2: I tell anybody and everybody about the show and how great it is you the man GV.

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  • Tangaroa
    You are sorely mistaken about this…I would say go read the forum and decide DIFFERENT wines other than these. Gary is not saying don’t drink $10 wines, he saying there are MUCH better wines at these price points.

    He truly wants you to buy good wine at ALL price points. This is a reason I can’t stand when he tastes Rosemount, he never likes it and niether do a lot of us.

  • KMAPSRULE

    QOTD –
    1.) Saw the Sponsored Add on http://www.corkd.com
    2.) Sent Links to a couple of friends who like wine..not sure if they visit frequently or not
    3.) Tend to Not really Discuss Links unless its something really great

  • KMAPSRULE

    QOTD –
    1.) Saw the Sponsored Add on http://www.corkd.com
    2.) Sent Links to a couple of friends who like wine..not sure if they visit frequently or not
    3.) Tend to Not really Discuss Links unless its something really great

  • cgf

    Gary,
    First a compliment: The playoff beard is sick. If the Jets do lose, do NOT shave it all off. Go for a fumanchu and never look back.

    Next, this episode is such a let-down after last week’s discoveries. I guess it may have been useful to those of us who have brand loyalty. Being 24 years old, I have no such thing.

    QOD 1: surfing the internet for a local wine shop.
    QOD2: My fiancee. also, I passed along the Winelibrary Wine Dragon commercial to my buddies who loved it.

  • cgf

    Gary,
    First a compliment: The playoff beard is sick. If the Jets do lose, do NOT shave it all off. Go for a fumanchu and never look back.

    Next, this episode is such a let-down after last week’s discoveries. I guess it may have been useful to those of us who have brand loyalty. Being 24 years old, I have no such thing.

    QOD 1: surfing the internet for a local wine shop.
    QOD2: My fiancee. also, I passed along the Winelibrary Wine Dragon commercial to my buddies who loved it.

  • Mets fan 13

    Love the idea of a show on every day wines . . . maybe you could try again with better QPR selections (i.e., keep the price point but do your best to get the BEST wine you can buy for the money).

  • Mets fan 13

    Love the idea of a show on every day wines . . . maybe you could try again with better QPR selections (i.e., keep the price point but do your best to get the BEST wine you can buy for the money).

  • upstater

    I agree with Brandon. Good of you to tackle the wines found at chain restaurants, VAY NER CHUCK. They are generic and taste like…a wine…thats about it. I agree that you can find great wines at the 10 and under price point. Of course its limiting because barely anyone in the US produces at that price! Go to France pick up a vin de pays…and enjoy the $3 bottle…its better than Rosemount. Or make your own…atleast you have the satisfaction of production. Great show…keep it up!!!! First; Google, Second: Everyone I see, Third; just found it. Gotta try the wolf trap!

  • upstater

    I agree with Brandon. Good of you to tackle the wines found at chain restaurants, VAY NER CHUCK. They are generic and taste like…a wine…thats about it. I agree that you can find great wines at the 10 and under price point. Of course its limiting because barely anyone in the US produces at that price! Go to France pick up a vin de pays…and enjoy the $3 bottle…its better than Rosemount. Or make your own…atleast you have the satisfaction of production. Great show…keep it up!!!! First; Google, Second: Everyone I see, Third; just found it. Gotta try the wolf trap!

  • Mike S.

    With respect to the Boekenhoutskloof, I had their Porcupine Ridge (lower end Syrah) with some friends while I was in Cape Town a few months ago and it was terrible. Truly disappointing since those guys make one of the best Syrahs in SA every year.

  • Mike S.

    With respect to the Boekenhoutskloof, I had their Porcupine Ridge (lower end Syrah) with some friends while I was in Cape Town a few months ago and it was terrible. Truly disappointing since those guys make one of the best Syrahs in SA every year.

  • organicguy

    For the best food in Providence go to Al Forno on Federal Hill!! Make a reservation!! Had been ordering online then saw episode 1 the day after its debut and since then have told every wine drinking friend about WLTV(they are probably lurkers). Isn’t it great to be excited by a $7 wine!!! GO JETS!!!

  • organicguy

    For the best food in Providence go to Al Forno on Federal Hill!! Make a reservation!! Had been ordering online then saw episode 1 the day after its debut and since then have told every wine drinking friend about WLTV(they are probably lurkers). Isn’t it great to be excited by a $7 wine!!! GO JETS!!!

  • Jason R.

    I oddly enough stubbled onto WL while searching for BV Private Reserve. A few days later in checking back caught Ep 1 and have watched ever since. (I’ll admit that I still buy much more from Wine Exchange), but I am slowly converting to WL. Both are the best damn prices in the country by far, and wrangle for the $1 up or $1 down on almost every wine. I would say that Winex is a little more traditional and WL brings more to the table.

    Told my father. He was a little bummed on the 2001 Pio Cesare Barolo & 2001 Guigal CDP, but hey thas another story. I plan on poppin the 2003 CLIO and getting him hooked. Anothet story again.

    I’ve been road warior’n it for past 3-4 weeks so I havnt commented like normal, but would like to give a “HEY” to Que Syrah Sera for the help on the 2004 Schild (BTW I missed when I was out of town) anyays – I read all the comments on the Wine Spectator forum – I love your style!!!!!

    BTW – I got a pile the next time free shipping hits – Anyone else holding back???? – I ll move to Forums now TYVM

  • joe

    I agree with Brandon too. Enough tasting these artifical wines. Big Producers of Bad-resteraunt wines suck. Why would anyone drink them? It is better to drink water and save your $$ to buy an L’Adventure Zin for $22 and have a real wine experience. If you want a buzz, go with Bud. Then again, why are we eating in these chain resteraunts? Like what Gary teaches in the wine world, we should be seeking out the small, independent, inexpensive resteraunts where the chef loves what he does and loves his clientle, prepares real food and bring your own Vino Nobile di Montalchino.

    Gary, I have been on the WL.com e-mail list for 7 years – I got on board with episode one based on your initial e-mail. I have refered all of my family, many friends, and numberous co-workers. When ever the subject of wine comes up – – I talk about this cool video blog, WLTV!
    Joe

  • Jason R.

    I oddly enough stubbled onto WL while searching for BV Private Reserve. A few days later in checking back caught Ep 1 and have watched ever since. (I’ll admit that I still buy much more from Wine Exchange), but I am slowly converting to WL. Both are the best damn prices in the country by far, and wrangle for the $1 up or $1 down on almost every wine. I would say that Winex is a little more traditional and WL brings more to the table.

    Told my father. He was a little bummed on the 2001 Pio Cesare Barolo & 2001 Guigal CDP, but hey thas another story. I plan on poppin the 2003 CLIO and getting him hooked. Anothet story again.

    I’ve been road warior’n it for past 3-4 weeks so I havnt commented like normal, but would like to give a “HEY” to Que Syrah Sera for the help on the 2004 Schild (BTW I missed when I was out of town) anyays – I read all the comments on the Wine Spectator forum – I love your style!!!!!

    BTW – I got a pile the next time free shipping hits – Anyone else holding back???? – I ll move to Forums now TYVM

  • joe

    I agree with Brandon too. Enough tasting these artifical wines. Big Producers of Bad-resteraunt wines suck. Why would anyone drink them? It is better to drink water and save your $$ to buy an L’Adventure Zin for $22 and have a real wine experience. If you want a buzz, go with Bud. Then again, why are we eating in these chain resteraunts? Like what Gary teaches in the wine world, we should be seeking out the small, independent, inexpensive resteraunts where the chef loves what he does and loves his clientle, prepares real food and bring your own Vino Nobile di Montalchino.

    Gary, I have been on the WL.com e-mail list for 7 years – I got on board with episode one based on your initial e-mail. I have refered all of my family, many friends, and numberous co-workers. When ever the subject of wine comes up – – I talk about this cool video blog, WLTV!
    Joe

  • Tony S

    QOD 1: Found WLTV when I logged on to winelibrary.com (as usual) to place an pick-up order about four months ago.

    QOD 2: I’ve told about a twenty friends, relatives and co-workers. Basically, anytime I talk wine with someone, I mention the site.

    T

  • Tony S

    QOD 1: Found WLTV when I logged on to winelibrary.com (as usual) to place an pick-up order about four months ago.

    QOD 2: I’ve told about a twenty friends, relatives and co-workers. Basically, anytime I talk wine with someone, I mention the site.

    T

  • AndrewB

    Gary I found WLTV on my own through you-tube

  • AndrewB

    Gary I found WLTV on my own through you-tube

  • KAHUNA

    Hey The Mr. Drummond sweater is back!

  • KAHUNA

    Hey The Mr. Drummond sweater is back!

  • KAHUNA

    Gary, When you are tasting lower priced wines like these- do you score based on wine per price or do you score regardless of the price. I have read other wine critics explain there system. So a wine you scored a 9o that was $10 would be equal to a Insignia that you scored 90-Just Curious

    When I do something wrong in the bathroom I don’t need febreeze but some tissue sure helps.

  • KAHUNA

    Gary, When you are tasting lower priced wines like these- do you score based on wine per price or do you score regardless of the price. I have read other wine critics explain there system. So a wine you scored a 9o that was $10 would be equal to a Insignia that you scored 90-Just Curious

    When I do something wrong in the bathroom I don’t need febreeze but some tissue sure helps.

  • #4 find great wine(for the $$$) like the http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=29690 and drink it everyday

    “Garyâ??s REAL Opinion:

    â??Donâ??t drink ANY of these wines.â?

    Gary,
    First off thank for actually doing a show for us
    $5 – $15 cheapskate wine drinkers. This is VERY
    appreciated!

    Now, where do you get off telling us not to drink
    any of these wines? There is a reason why we drink
    these wines. We want to have a glass or two of wine
    everyday AND UNLIKE YOU we canâ??t afford breaking open
    a $30-$50 bottle of wine every night.

    Sure, we know that $30 – $50 wine is pretty much better
    than $5 – $15 wine (remember my graph of Chrisâ??
    spreadsheet?). Doh.

    So, we have a choice:

    1. Drink great wine once a week.

    2. Drink cheapskate wine every day.

    So, in general, we chose #2 and occasionally
    splurge for the fancy stuff.

    Comment 25: By Tangaroa on January 4th, 2007 at 5:23 pm e”

  • Gary,

    Wow not a single bottle worth buying… Thats pretty harsh!

    QOD

    1. Tangaroa got me hooked!
    2. I told my long time buddy Stu; but I don’t think he’s posted yet.

    -Matt

  • #4 find great wine(for the $$$) like the http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=29690 and drink it everyday

    “Garyâ??s REAL Opinion:

    â??Donâ??t drink ANY of these wines.â?

    Gary,
    First off thank for actually doing a show for us
    $5 – $15 cheapskate wine drinkers. This is VERY
    appreciated!

    Now, where do you get off telling us not to drink
    any of these wines? There is a reason why we drink
    these wines. We want to have a glass or two of wine
    everyday AND UNLIKE YOU we canâ??t afford breaking open
    a $30-$50 bottle of wine every night.

    Sure, we know that $30 – $50 wine is pretty much better
    than $5 – $15 wine (remember my graph of Chrisâ??
    spreadsheet?). Doh.

    So, we have a choice:

    1. Drink great wine once a week.

    2. Drink cheapskate wine every day.

    So, in general, we chose #2 and occasionally
    splurge for the fancy stuff.

    Comment 25: By Tangaroa on January 4th, 2007 at 5:23 pm e”

  • Gary,

    Wow not a single bottle worth buying… Thats pretty harsh!

    QOD

    1. Tangaroa got me hooked!
    2. I told my long time buddy Stu; but I don’t think he’s posted yet.

    -Matt

  • Dan C.

    Tangaroa- There is a ton of good under $10, and certainly under $15, wine out there. It’s just that very little of it is from the U.S. Gary has recommended a whole bunch of under $15 wines that he really likes and I think all he is saying is that you should try some because they are so much better than BV, etc…I am a dedicated buyer of under $15 wines. Try Spain (Artazuri, Las Rocas, Mas Que Vinos Ercavio Roble, Olivares Altos de la Hoya, Castano Hecula, Castano Solanera, Capcanes Mas Donis Barrica, Juan Gil); Italy (Farnese Casale Vecchio, Di Majo Norante Sangiovese, Masciarelli Montepulciano, Lucarelli Primitivo, Cantele Primitivo Salerno); Australia (Pillar Box Red, Trevor Jones Virgin Chardonnay, Milton Park Shiraz, Penfolds Koonunga Hill, Water Wheel, Kangarilla Road);also, Chile, Argentina, New Zealand, S. Africa, Languedoc Roussillon, France. I mean, if you like BV, Rosemount and Columbia Crest, drink and enjoy, but if you don’t, try some others at the same price. It’s fun!

    Cheers, Dan C.

  • Dan C.

    Tangaroa- There is a ton of good under $10, and certainly under $15, wine out there. It’s just that very little of it is from the U.S. Gary has recommended a whole bunch of under $15 wines that he really likes and I think all he is saying is that you should try some because they are so much better than BV, etc…I am a dedicated buyer of under $15 wines. Try Spain (Artazuri, Las Rocas, Mas Que Vinos Ercavio Roble, Olivares Altos de la Hoya, Castano Hecula, Castano Solanera, Capcanes Mas Donis Barrica, Juan Gil); Italy (Farnese Casale Vecchio, Di Majo Norante Sangiovese, Masciarelli Montepulciano, Lucarelli Primitivo, Cantele Primitivo Salerno); Australia (Pillar Box Red, Trevor Jones Virgin Chardonnay, Milton Park Shiraz, Penfolds Koonunga Hill, Water Wheel, Kangarilla Road);also, Chile, Argentina, New Zealand, S. Africa, Languedoc Roussillon, France. I mean, if you like BV, Rosemount and Columbia Crest, drink and enjoy, but if you don’t, try some others at the same price. It’s fun!

    Cheers, Dan C.

  • SS Chris

    QOTD:
    I came across it while on the WL site which I learned via an article in the STAR LEDGER about 3 years ago.

    Surprise, surprise….but I tell just about EVERYBODY (friends, family, co-workers, strangers on the street). Seriously have told about 150 people…at least

    oh….and I tend to mention that spreadsheet thing from time to time

  • SS Chris

    QOTD:
    I came across it while on the WL site which I learned via an article in the STAR LEDGER about 3 years ago.

    Surprise, surprise….but I tell just about EVERYBODY (friends, family, co-workers, strangers on the street). Seriously have told about 150 people…at least

    oh….and I tend to mention that spreadsheet thing from time to time

  • Pelochain

    I found out about WLTV on eBob.

    Who have I referred WLTV to? NO ONE! I am just a friggin Mexican who knows no one!!!!

  • Pelochain

    I found out about WLTV on eBob.

    Who have I referred WLTV to? NO ONE! I am just a friggin Mexican who knows no one!!!!

  • iphilgoood

    QOTD – 1. Got the link while surfing wine websites ( I think it was corkd.com, that I never returned to). 2. Showed WLTV to my father, an experienced surfer and amateur wine taster.

    On another subject, I pay twice the price for these wines at my liquor store (SAQ in Quebec, Canada – a state monopole on fine alcohols). That’s pretty frustrating. Somehow though European Wines and more expensive ones are closer to the price you would pay anywhere in the US. The Robert Mondavi one was 19$ CAN (ouch! not gonna try that one I think).

    How I wish I could buy from WLTV!

  • iphilgoood

    QOTD – 1. Got the link while surfing wine websites ( I think it was corkd.com, that I never returned to). 2. Showed WLTV to my father, an experienced surfer and amateur wine taster.

    On another subject, I pay twice the price for these wines at my liquor store (SAQ in Quebec, Canada – a state monopole on fine alcohols). That’s pretty frustrating. Somehow though European Wines and more expensive ones are closer to the price you would pay anywhere in the US. The Robert Mondavi one was 19$ CAN (ouch! not gonna try that one I think).

    How I wish I could buy from WLTV!

  • Gary,

    Thanks for tasting my request of the Wolf Trap and THANKS for stocking it. I’ve been a huge fan of Boekenhoutskloof (pronounced boo â?? ken â?? hoots – kloof by the way)wines for a long time but they are hard to find. Almost everything I’ve tasted from them has been excellent. I think I’ve hounded you or your staff for about a year now to get more than just Chocolate Block so I’m thrilled that you’ve added another from this winery. Add more. They are a great producer.

    OK, now I’m off to go buy some quick before your rave review leaves me empty handed.

    QOD: I found the site on my own and have turned on about 20 co-workers and 10 friends and family to the site. I even wore my Vayniac shirt on NYE. Is that hard core or what?

  • Gary,

    Thanks for tasting my request of the Wolf Trap and THANKS for stocking it. I’ve been a huge fan of Boekenhoutskloof (pronounced boo â?? ken â?? hoots – kloof by the way)wines for a long time but they are hard to find. Almost everything I’ve tasted from them has been excellent. I think I’ve hounded you or your staff for about a year now to get more than just Chocolate Block so I’m thrilled that you’ve added another from this winery. Add more. They are a great producer.

    OK, now I’m off to go buy some quick before your rave review leaves me empty handed.

    QOD: I found the site on my own and have turned on about 20 co-workers and 10 friends and family to the site. I even wore my Vayniac shirt on NYE. Is that hard core or what?

  • Brian

    I came across wine library tv from wine.woot.com

  • Brian

    I came across wine library tv from wine.woot.com

  • John Blue Label

    Gary,
    Ah yes, the dilemna. As the palate improves, the cost goes up! Since I have been drinking better wine, it is hard to go back to cheaper ones that are not as good. Your restaurant comment is perfect. Unless you have a place with a great wine list, it’s tough to take. It’s like watching sports on regular vs HDTV. You can sit through the regular, but it JUST AIN’T QUITE THERE! Same with the better wines.

    I for one am greatful that you introduce us to wines like God’s Hill Shiraz and Tumbling Tractors Zin. These are fabulous wines at reasonable (not cheap, but fair) prices. I also like the fact that you show us the high end stuff, so we can buy one or two, hold them and enjoy for special occassions. WLTV has nice balance, and a long, clean finish!!!

    QOD: I saw an article in the WSJ on wine sites, and compared 5 or 6. Your prices and selection was the best. Then I got hooked on WLTV, and now my wife says “You ordered more wine???”

    As far as referrals go, I have a group of friends who enjoy fine food and beverages. We regularly get together and share a fine single malt scotch. I think we will be doing some wines next time we gather, and I have passed on the WLTV link to them all. The episode that got me hooked was the Amarone episode, since it is my absolute favorite wine. Case in point: on Christmas eve I delivered a bottle of wine to one of these friends, and we started talking about Champagne. He mentioned he has a connection to get Pol Roget for $30. I came home and checked WL: $24. Immediately sent him the link.

    Hey, there’s another show in the future: Amarone redux!!! Pair it with some of that sharp provolone and some Pecorino Romano! Throw in some roasted red peppers on Chiabatta bread, and you have a PARTY!!

    Keep up the good work.

    JW

  • John Blue Label

    Gary,
    Ah yes, the dilemna. As the palate improves, the cost goes up! Since I have been drinking better wine, it is hard to go back to cheaper ones that are not as good. Your restaurant comment is perfect. Unless you have a place with a great wine list, it’s tough to take. It’s like watching sports on regular vs HDTV. You can sit through the regular, but it JUST AIN’T QUITE THERE! Same with the better wines.

    I for one am greatful that you introduce us to wines like God’s Hill Shiraz and Tumbling Tractors Zin. These are fabulous wines at reasonable (not cheap, but fair) prices. I also like the fact that you show us the high end stuff, so we can buy one or two, hold them and enjoy for special occassions. WLTV has nice balance, and a long, clean finish!!!

    QOD: I saw an article in the WSJ on wine sites, and compared 5 or 6. Your prices and selection was the best. Then I got hooked on WLTV, and now my wife says “You ordered more wine???”

    As far as referrals go, I have a group of friends who enjoy fine food and beverages. We regularly get together and share a fine single malt scotch. I think we will be doing some wines next time we gather, and I have passed on the WLTV link to them all. The episode that got me hooked was the Amarone episode, since it is my absolute favorite wine. Case in point: on Christmas eve I delivered a bottle of wine to one of these friends, and we started talking about Champagne. He mentioned he has a connection to get Pol Roget for $30. I came home and checked WL: $24. Immediately sent him the link.

    Hey, there’s another show in the future: Amarone redux!!! Pair it with some of that sharp provolone and some Pecorino Romano! Throw in some roasted red peppers on Chiabatta bread, and you have a PARTY!!

    Keep up the good work.

    JW

  • Charles Colomer

    I recently moved to easton PA. but i still work in NY.
    one day coming home on 78, i saw a sighn for WineLibrary…..

    My uncle tony is on vacation, and i can’t wait for him to
    get back so i can tell him about WL and Gary…..

    Whatever you do in the future, NEVER stop doing WLTV..
    have a good weekend

  • Charles Colomer

    I recently moved to easton PA. but i still work in NY.
    one day coming home on 78, i saw a sighn for WineLibrary…..

    My uncle tony is on vacation, and i can’t wait for him to
    get back so i can tell him about WL and Gary…..

    Whatever you do in the future, NEVER stop doing WLTV..
    have a good weekend

  • Love this episode. It’s nice to get the Wine Guy’s take on these high volume wines. Great idea and one I’d like to see again in the future.

    Good luck against the Pats.

    Lars

  • Love this episode. It’s nice to get the Wine Guy’s take on these high volume wines. Great idea and one I’d like to see again in the future.

    Good luck against the Pats.

    Lars

  • KAHUNA

    QOTD #3 part B-I don’t tell anyone about Gary because “I will hug him and squeeze him and call him George”

  • KAHUNA

    QOTD #3 part B-I don’t tell anyone about Gary because “I will hug him and squeeze him and call him George”

  • jbreker

    Gary, you have fans in Canada? 🙂

    QOTD: I found WLTV via cork’d and referred my tasting buddies to WLTV.

    Great episode, and thanks for the Canadian shout-out!

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