EP 159 Everyday Drinking Wines, From Mondavi to BV.

Wines tasted in this episode:

Today in another WLTV viewer inspired question, Gary looks at six budget priced wines. Watch and see if these are really true values or something else.

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Nice show Gary just continuing me jorney thur all the Thunder Shows back from the start and man it is a wild ride.

QOTD1: I found Wine Library TV by myself, I was really getting into wine and was searching the web and found your site and it has change my life I m glued to the computer now. QOTD2: I tell anybody and everybody about the show and how great it is you the man GV.

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  • Jason Hicks

    QOTD:

    1) I found it through Democracy Player, which I actually think kind of sucks now, but was a cool idea and I used it for a while.

    2) I turned a few folks on by forwarding the videos I’ve made to friends/family members, but I don’t think I’ve created any actual Vayniacs yet… 🙁

  • Steve R

    Hmmm — I have tasted most of these myself, and I don’t agree with your call. Perhaps this is a good thing, because it is helping me understand my palate vis a vis yours. I agree with RP that Columbia Crest is one of the most consistently-good producers of value-priced wine in the US and havce seen high 80s from him for their Grand Estates Merlot and Cabernet. I cannot stand the Mondavi PR or the BV, however.

    That being said, I respect your opinion and learn just as much from when I disagree as when I agree with you!

    Providence — I agree with the writers above — think Italian, think Federal Hill

    QsOTD:
    1. My colleague Boyd who you met at Murphy’s in Atlanta
    2. Yes, to a fellow wine geek friend — but alas, only one

  • Steve R

    Hmmm — I have tasted most of these myself, and I don’t agree with your call. Perhaps this is a good thing, because it is helping me understand my palate vis a vis yours. I agree with RP that Columbia Crest is one of the most consistently-good producers of value-priced wine in the US and havce seen high 80s from him for their Grand Estates Merlot and Cabernet. I cannot stand the Mondavi PR or the BV, however.

    That being said, I respect your opinion and learn just as much from when I disagree as when I agree with you!

    Providence — I agree with the writers above — think Italian, think Federal Hill

    QsOTD:
    1. My colleague Boyd who you met at Murphy’s in Atlanta
    2. Yes, to a fellow wine geek friend — but alas, only one

  • Lynne

    QOD: I placed my first order October 10, 2004.
    WLTV hadn’t even been invented yet!
    I have told so many about the site and the great prices. Most of my family live in states that are on the “Unshippables” list.
    I’ve tasted most of today’s wines and drank them in my early “wine years” and I did enjoy them. My taste has changed so much now, that I pass these wines by on the store shelves. Haven’t tried Foxglove or Wolf Trap. I was interested in the Wolf Trap, but WL is already sold out.C’est la vie!

  • Lynne

    QOD: I placed my first order October 10, 2004.
    WLTV hadn’t even been invented yet!
    I have told so many about the site and the great prices. Most of my family live in states that are on the “Unshippables” list.
    I’ve tasted most of today’s wines and drank them in my early “wine years” and I did enjoy them. My taste has changed so much now, that I pass these wines by on the store shelves. Haven’t tried Foxglove or Wolf Trap. I was interested in the Wolf Trap, but WL is already sold out.C’est la vie!

  • QOTD #1 – researching wine fridges on the wine spectator forums, somebody mentioned the “wine guy” at wltv… I was curious, and followed the link. I, since, have not returned to the spectator forums (I prefer WLTV and WLTV forums… much better, friendlier, and more helpful people).

    QOTD #2 – Everyone that gives any sort of care for my personal interests… all friends, family, and even my friends that don’t drink alcohol at all, I’ve got them watching shows!!!

    As always, top notch vblog!

    -Nico

  • QOTD #1 – researching wine fridges on the wine spectator forums, somebody mentioned the “wine guy” at wltv… I was curious, and followed the link. I, since, have not returned to the spectator forums (I prefer WLTV and WLTV forums… much better, friendlier, and more helpful people).

    QOTD #2 – Everyone that gives any sort of care for my personal interests… all friends, family, and even my friends that don’t drink alcohol at all, I’ve got them watching shows!!!

    As always, top notch vblog!

    -Nico

  • bugbirdfishboy

    QOTD: I discovered wine lib. tv in August, after my uncle told me about winelibrary.com.
    I told all of my wine drinking friends at UConn, my mom and dad, my siblings, and just about everyone who would listen. As of today, I have a WLTV link in my AIM profile.

  • bugbirdfishboy

    QOTD: I discovered wine lib. tv in August, after my uncle told me about winelibrary.com.
    I told all of my wine drinking friends at UConn, my mom and dad, my siblings, and just about everyone who would listen. As of today, I have a WLTV link in my AIM profile.

  • Dave-from-Katonah

    Hey Gary – Great show. Tangaroa needs to go back and watch the Aussie Shiraz eps. Thanks for turning me onto 2 Up and Thorn Clark Shotfire – both spectacular QPR and under 12-15 bones!! That’s my everday juice.
    QOTD1-I was driving home from Philly to Nothern Westchester after taking my daughter from one bat mitzvah in NJ to the second one in Philly, when I saw a huge WL billboard on the NJTpke. I started watching…and I’m hooked. My first order arrived in about a day – 3 cases of great stuff – I had to get another bin to double my storage to 250 bottles. Now I’m thinking about a third rack.
    QOTD2-I told my wife, my across the street neighbor who is in a few wine clubs I think, my good golfing friend who is a true Northern Californian educated oenophile, and my nurse friend who also loves to taste and collect great QPR wines, among others…
    QOTD3-I tell everybody who’ll listen!!!
    Way to go – you’re on a roll! How about doing the best wines WL under$10, or under $20? How about a blind tasting/Gift pack for under $100 or under $150 or under $200?? I think we all love a little simulcam tasting action! A great way to extend our palates!!

  • Hey Gary – Great show. Tangaroa needs to go back and watch the Aussie Shiraz eps. Thanks for turning me onto 2 Up and Thorn Clark Shotfire – both spectacular QPR and under 12-15 bones!! That’s my everday juice.
    QOTD1-I was driving home from Philly to Nothern Westchester after taking my daughter from one bat mitzvah in NJ to the second one in Philly, when I saw a huge WL billboard on the NJTpke. I started watching…and I’m hooked. My first order arrived in about a day – 3 cases of great stuff – I had to get another bin to double my storage to 250 bottles. Now I’m thinking about a third rack.
    QOTD2-I told my wife, my across the street neighbor who is in a few wine clubs I think, my good golfing friend who is a true Northern Californian educated oenophile, and my nurse friend who also loves to taste and collect great QPR wines, among others…
    QOTD3-I tell everybody who’ll listen!!!
    Way to go – you’re on a roll! How about doing the best wines WL under$10, or under $20? How about a blind tasting/Gift pack for under $100 or under $150 or under $200?? I think we all love a little simulcam tasting action! A great way to extend our palates!!

  • I’m a little scared to watch this episode but here I go…

  • I’m a little scared to watch this episode but here I go…

  • stewart l

    I found out about wine library from one of my wine group members about 1.5 yrs. ago. I have told numerous friends and family about it as well as several colleagues at the hospital I admit to. Never a dull moment in vaynernation!

  • stewart l

    I found out about wine library from one of my wine group members about 1.5 yrs. ago. I have told numerous friends and family about it as well as several colleagues at the hospital I admit to. Never a dull moment in vaynernation!

  • E

    Well, so much for the Wolf Trap. I was wondering how that one would turn out.

    I had a run-in with a cheap South African red myself last night, oddly enough … no bacon, but nice for the price. If I can find notes, maybe I’ll post ’em.

    QOD: wanted some Aglianico last spring, used The Google, found the site, got me some. And those little tote bags make nice gifts, espectially when you stick a bottle in there they can’t find around here.

  • E

    Well, so much for the Wolf Trap. I was wondering how that one would turn out.

    I had a run-in with a cheap South African red myself last night, oddly enough … no bacon, but nice for the price. If I can find notes, maybe I’ll post ’em.

    QOD: wanted some Aglianico last spring, used The Google, found the site, got me some. And those little tote bags make nice gifts, espectially when you stick a bottle in there they can’t find around here.

  • SP12165

    First time poster, was a lerker, now I’m in! QOD responses:

    1. No one told me about Wine Library. I found it on a google search. I found it about 3 weeks ago and am hooked!
    2. Oddly enough, I just told someone today who works for me (her husband is a chef..food..wine..you get it). I sent the link.

    Thanks Gary – great show and I’ll keep spreading the word.

    SP

  • SP12165

    First time poster, was a lerker, now I’m in! QOD responses:

    1. No one told me about Wine Library. I found it on a google search. I found it about 3 weeks ago and am hooked!
    2. Oddly enough, I just told someone today who works for me (her husband is a chef..food..wine..you get it). I sent the link.

    Thanks Gary – great show and I’ll keep spreading the word.

    SP

  • Bill

    This episode was great — as far as it went. But how could you possibly talk about Everyday Drinking Wines without featuring Lancer’s Sparkling Rose??!! Surely you remember: “Lancer’s Sparkling Rose and a baggie of Velveeta cubes – that’s lip-smackin’ snackin’!” Ahh, how soon they forget….
    Well, there’s nothing to do now but move on to the QOD’s.

    QOD # 1 – Lars is a friend, and in his Current Schedule Information, about a week before he first appeared, I read the announcement of his upcoming intro to Episode # 148 – the now-famous “paper, cork, wet rock, jalapeno pepper, Jersey dirt-tasting” show!

    QOD # 2 – I’ve told family and co-workers, and several Disney clients. Most recently I told the Wine Guy at Costco! He was very knowledgeable, and had been choppered in to the wine department to boost holiday sales, which he apparently did. He knew a lot about wine, but didn’t know about WineLibrary TV. Now he does!

    Footnote: I tell ’em all that it helps to have an interest in wine or the Jets — but that it takes neither to become an Official Vayniac!

    BV (and I don’t mean Beaulieu Vineyards!)

  • jbev

    Great show, it reminded me of hanging out and plastic cups.

    Those were the days.

  • Bill

    This episode was great — as far as it went. But how could you possibly talk about Everyday Drinking Wines without featuring Lancer’s Sparkling Rose??!! Surely you remember: “Lancer’s Sparkling Rose and a baggie of Velveeta cubes – that’s lip-smackin’ snackin’!” Ahh, how soon they forget….
    Well, there’s nothing to do now but move on to the QOD’s.

    QOD # 1 – Lars is a friend, and in his Current Schedule Information, about a week before he first appeared, I read the announcement of his upcoming intro to Episode # 148 – the now-famous “paper, cork, wet rock, jalapeno pepper, Jersey dirt-tasting” show!

    QOD # 2 – I’ve told family and co-workers, and several Disney clients. Most recently I told the Wine Guy at Costco! He was very knowledgeable, and had been choppered in to the wine department to boost holiday sales, which he apparently did. He knew a lot about wine, but didn’t know about WineLibrary TV. Now he does!

    Footnote: I tell ’em all that it helps to have an interest in wine or the Jets — but that it takes neither to become an Official Vayniac!

    BV (and I don’t mean Beaulieu Vineyards!)

  • jbev

    Great show, it reminded me of hanging out and plastic cups.

    Those were the days.

  • jbev

    Great show, it reminded me of hanging out and plastic cups.
    Those were the days. I found you guys on a google search for
    Opus One and I I’ve told everyone I know.

  • jbev

    Great show, it reminded me of hanging out and plastic cups.
    Those were the days. I found you guys on a google search for
    Opus One and I I’ve told everyone I know.

  • Wine-o

    Awesome episide, one I can really relate to. One thing sort of confused me. You mentioned one of the wines had an artificial “febreeze” scent and it seems like you are inplying that there are artificical additives and inexpensive wines. Is that the case?
    QOTD #1 WCBS radio during Yankee game (they suck, mets own NY this decade)
    QOTD #2 alot of my friends and family, although I dont know for sure if they subscribe.
    Honest, great episode
    Thanx…

  • Wine-o

    Awesome episide, one I can really relate to. One thing sort of confused me. You mentioned one of the wines had an artificial “febreeze” scent and it seems like you are inplying that there are artificical additives and inexpensive wines. Is that the case?
    QOTD #1 WCBS radio during Yankee game (they suck, mets own NY this decade)
    QOTD #2 alot of my friends and family, although I dont know for sure if they subscribe.
    Honest, great episode
    Thanx…

  • Wow…I made the top 90! hurray! just kidding…seriously…don’t take the top 10 spots to just say “oooh, look at me, I’m dedicated but have nothing interested to say”…sheesh…

    Loved the comments on all the wines…my wife used to work in events and their call brands for wine were the BV Century and Mondavi CK…she laughed when she saw you tasting those, because they are pretty much crap. Those first couple of wines remind me of eating at Chili’s! Everytime we decide to grab some tasty Chili’s cause the budget needs some massaging…I look at their “drinks” list and laugh my face off at the so called advertising for their beverages….the pictures look disgusting…let alone the knowlege of what you’re actually spending $7 a glass on…COME ON…you can get a bottle of that hooch for $7.

    Anyway…QOTD:
    1) My bro PT
    2) Hmmm…wife, friends, coworkers…heck, I even posted a video AND a “holla” on my blog…so..all three of the people that read that have heard about it too. HA.

    Happy Winetime!

  • Wow…I made the top 90! hurray! just kidding…seriously…don’t take the top 10 spots to just say “oooh, look at me, I’m dedicated but have nothing interested to say”…sheesh…

    Loved the comments on all the wines…my wife used to work in events and their call brands for wine were the BV Century and Mondavi CK…she laughed when she saw you tasting those, because they are pretty much crap. Those first couple of wines remind me of eating at Chili’s! Everytime we decide to grab some tasty Chili’s cause the budget needs some massaging…I look at their “drinks” list and laugh my face off at the so called advertising for their beverages….the pictures look disgusting…let alone the knowlege of what you’re actually spending $7 a glass on…COME ON…you can get a bottle of that hooch for $7.

    Anyway…QOTD:
    1) My bro PT
    2) Hmmm…wife, friends, coworkers…heck, I even posted a video AND a “holla” on my blog…so..all three of the people that read that have heard about it too. HA.

    Happy Winetime!

  • Willis McGrapee

    1) on one of the forums on cellartracker.com
    2) I’ve referred several friends and my bro.

    I can’t believe I’m saying this, but good luck this weekend. I hope gang green takes down that hooded sweatshirted wife-stealing perma-scowled Belichek…I’m rooting for the lesser of two evils I guess.

  • Willis McGrapee

    1) on one of the forums on cellartracker.com
    2) I’ve referred several friends and my bro.

    I can’t believe I’m saying this, but good luck this weekend. I hope gang green takes down that hooded sweatshirted wife-stealing perma-scowled Belichek…I’m rooting for the lesser of two evils I guess.

  • Jon E

    Rhode Island eats: Al Forno by far-IT Invented the grilled pizza! yeah thats big time

    Lets be honest all the people out there with good wine palates bought plenty of cheap duds to get to where they are now. I am sure no one came out of the womb with a taste for first growths.

    I collect Chateauneuf du Pape, I sell Chateauneuf du Pape to less than 1% percent of the customers that come to the shops I supply. I love it when someone walks into my stores and has a great palate and buys really great stuff, but I sell a lot more Beringer White Zinfandel to happy smiling people who enjoy what they’re buying just as much.

    Don’t be haters, don’t pick on young palates.

    QOTD: Found the store on line, and was harassed by a wine rep. who said- “I don’t know how the hell those @#$%^er’s in New Jersey do it! My cost is more than their @#$%^ing retail!

    QOTD2: Referred local reps who sell Melka wines, another who sells Tensley, another who sells Meeker and so on. All of them complain they can’t compete.

  • Jon E

    Rhode Island eats: Al Forno by far-IT Invented the grilled pizza! yeah thats big time

    Lets be honest all the people out there with good wine palates bought plenty of cheap duds to get to where they are now. I am sure no one came out of the womb with a taste for first growths.

    I collect Chateauneuf du Pape, I sell Chateauneuf du Pape to less than 1% percent of the customers that come to the shops I supply. I love it when someone walks into my stores and has a great palate and buys really great stuff, but I sell a lot more Beringer White Zinfandel to happy smiling people who enjoy what they’re buying just as much.

    Don’t be haters, don’t pick on young palates.

    QOTD: Found the store on line, and was harassed by a wine rep. who said- “I don’t know how the hell those @#$%^er’s in New Jersey do it! My cost is more than their @#$%^ing retail!

    QOTD2: Referred local reps who sell Melka wines, another who sells Tensley, another who sells Meeker and so on. All of them complain they can’t compete.

  • Jon E

    Totally forgot about the Boekenhoustlkloof-I discovered this little gem back in 04′ and his been an odd ball winner ever since.

  • Jon E

    Totally forgot about the Boekenhoustlkloof-I discovered this little gem back in 04′ and his been an odd ball winner ever since.

  • Shotgun

    My QOD– What is more obnoxious? The Beard or the dorky light bulb shaped tasting glass (or is it an upside down bowling pin?)? So what that it’s a “Riedel” –it is totally ridiculous. I am really pulling against the Jets now, and I will not watch another WLTV or buy another wine from WL if you bring out the pilsner glass again. PAZZZ on Jets, Beard, and Bowling Pin.

  • Shotgun

    My QOD– What is more obnoxious? The Beard or the dorky light bulb shaped tasting glass (or is it an upside down bowling pin?)? So what that it’s a “Riedel” –it is totally ridiculous. I am really pulling against the Jets now, and I will not watch another WLTV or buy another wine from WL if you bring out the pilsner glass again. PAZZZ on Jets, Beard, and Bowling Pin.

  • QOTD- I have turned my best wine drinking buddy, my father in law, and a few others onto the site.

    QOTD- I found out about it from the wine guy himself, Gary V

    This is part question and part show idea. Episode on Syrah with this question thrown in…..I was recently was told that Syrah should not be cellared as long as some other varietals. How long can I wait to drink my cellared Syrahs. Don’t want to drink too early. I have some 2002 Chalone Syrah and some Ojai Syrah that I don’t want to waste. Thanks Gary and keep the beard coming.

    E

  • Robert F

    Speaking of QPR, I just had the Monkey Bay 2005 Sauvignon Blanc from new zealand. I know Gary reviewed it a while ago, but WOW. I was extremely impressed since it was 9 bucks. Definitely has a few grasshopper heads in there. I agree that California and the US is not the place to go for everyday QPR wines.

  • QOTD- I have turned my best wine drinking buddy, my father in law, and a few others onto the site.

    QOTD- I found out about it from the wine guy himself, Gary V

    This is part question and part show idea. Episode on Syrah with this question thrown in…..I was recently was told that Syrah should not be cellared as long as some other varietals. How long can I wait to drink my cellared Syrahs. Don’t want to drink too early. I have some 2002 Chalone Syrah and some Ojai Syrah that I don’t want to waste. Thanks Gary and keep the beard coming.

    E

  • Robert F

    Speaking of QPR, I just had the Monkey Bay 2005 Sauvignon Blanc from new zealand. I know Gary reviewed it a while ago, but WOW. I was extremely impressed since it was 9 bucks. Definitely has a few grasshopper heads in there. I agree that California and the US is not the place to go for everyday QPR wines.

  • chito

    Gary,
    cc.Tangaroa
    Tangaroa, what website are you on? Why did you visit it? Will you return to seek more advise on wine? Answer; It’s Gary’s website!!!! You came looking for his expertise and you sure as hell will return to seek more advise…FOR FREE!!!! That’a where he gets off telling us what we need to know.
    Gary, sorry to get on a rant but the rest of us appreciate the work that you do.
    QOD. I, like GeneV have been a winelibrary customer long before WineLibraryTV. It was a natural progression. I have told everyone who will listen about it. As a Vascular Surgeon, I can also push the health benefits along with a plug for YOUR site. My motto long ago became, “LIfe is too short to drink bad wine”. My wife,Carmen and my kids finally engraved it on a wine glass and gave it to me as a gift. I know you know it, I hope people like Tangaroa will too.
    Good luck to you and your Jets.

  • chito

    Gary,
    cc.Tangaroa
    Tangaroa, what website are you on? Why did you visit it? Will you return to seek more advise on wine? Answer; It’s Gary’s website!!!! You came looking for his expertise and you sure as hell will return to seek more advise…FOR FREE!!!! That’a where he gets off telling us what we need to know.
    Gary, sorry to get on a rant but the rest of us appreciate the work that you do.
    QOD. I, like GeneV have been a winelibrary customer long before WineLibraryTV. It was a natural progression. I have told everyone who will listen about it. As a Vascular Surgeon, I can also push the health benefits along with a plug for YOUR site. My motto long ago became, “LIfe is too short to drink bad wine”. My wife,Carmen and my kids finally engraved it on a wine glass and gave it to me as a gift. I know you know it, I hope people like Tangaroa will too.
    Good luck to you and your Jets.

  • Chris From Ny

    Gary, when mondavi jr. was on your show awhile back he said his family was bought out but on today’s show it you made it seem like the mondavi’s still make the juice. Are they still the winemakers? Also a great low budget wine…2000 Apollonio….great stuff.

  • Chris From Ny

    Gary, when mondavi jr. was on your show awhile back he said his family was bought out but on today’s show it you made it seem like the mondavi’s still make the juice. Are they still the winemakers? Also a great low budget wine…2000 Apollonio….great stuff.

  • tom mackenzie

    I was refered to WineLibrary by my realtor Nicolle Salee (don’t know her screen name). I have told everyone I work with about the site (especially the Jet fans). I love the website and watch every episode….keep it up!!!

  • tom mackenzie

    I was refered to WineLibrary by my realtor Nicolle Salee (don’t know her screen name). I have told everyone I work with about the site (especially the Jet fans). I love the website and watch every episode….keep it up!!!

  • Al Forno is the best option in Providence. Hands down.

  • Al Forno is the best option in Providence. Hands down.

  • Greg O

    Gary, the new glass sucks…bring back the playoff glass! You can’t swirl properly in the new glass and it looks silly.

    Thanks for the shout out to CANADA!

    I came across the site from a link on another wine site…don’t remember which one.

    To all those who didn’t appreciate this tasting let me remind you that not everyone is a wealthy sommelier who has access to WLTV and all the expensive boutique wines that are reviewed. For everybody else this type of tasting is very useful. I appreciated hearing tasting notes on wines I could access and relate to even if most of them are wines I wouldnâ??t drink either. The Wolf Trap was a nice surprise and sure enough for the first time I found a wine that was reviewed, that I wanted to get, and is actually available at my local wine distributor. Yeah!,,,canâ??t wait to pick it up after work.

    I’ve told over a dozen people about the site but I’m still working on getting some of them to become members. Since I’ve started watching Wine Library TV I have come off as such as wine geek to some people that I have had 3 people tell me in the last 2 weeks that I should get into the wine business. I had to explain that the reason I know so much about wine/wine tasting is WLTV.

    Cheers!

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