EP 219 4 Ways to Try 1 Wine With Gary Vaynerchuk

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  • Clifford James

    As promised, I’m going to open that bottle of 1995 Chat Ferriere Margaux that you reviewed a few Fridays ago! Darcey and I will drink every drop!!!

    Also, Gary, I have always heard Pinotage pronounced the way you pronounce it. I also looked it up here: http://www.klwines.com/glossary.asp#P

    Thanks for all that you do!

  • Clifford James

    As promised, I’m going to open that bottle of 1995 Chat Ferriere Margaux that you reviewed a few Fridays ago! Darcey and I will drink every drop!!!

    Also, Gary, I have always heard Pinotage pronounced the way you pronounce it. I also looked it up here: http://www.klwines.com/glossary.asp#P

    Thanks for all that you do!

  • Bobinnati

    Just thought I’d tack on one more comment about letting wine stand. Based on GV’s reco, I bought several bottles of the Segal’s Cabernet Sauvignon from the not too distant kosher wines episode. I opened one up on Monday of this week and frankly, I was a little disappointed at the pop and pour stage. I thought it was thin and rather one dimensional without a lot of complexity. Well, I don’t drink more than about 6 oz. a day usually, so I Vacu-vin-ed it and let it sit and drank a glass every day with Vacu-vin treatment each night. I am sitting here finishing the last glass today, which is three days after opening and danged if this is not a much better wine than the one I drank the first day! The nose is more inviting, the complexity is greater and the finish is much longer. I guess this is just an indication that there is no standard way to treat wine and that it is very much a question of the grape, the type of wine, the age and other factors.

  • Bobinnati

    Just thought I’d tack on one more comment about letting wine stand. Based on GV’s reco, I bought several bottles of the Segal’s Cabernet Sauvignon from the not too distant kosher wines episode. I opened one up on Monday of this week and frankly, I was a little disappointed at the pop and pour stage. I thought it was thin and rather one dimensional without a lot of complexity. Well, I don’t drink more than about 6 oz. a day usually, so I Vacu-vin-ed it and let it sit and drank a glass every day with Vacu-vin treatment each night. I am sitting here finishing the last glass today, which is three days after opening and danged if this is not a much better wine than the one I drank the first day! The nose is more inviting, the complexity is greater and the finish is much longer. I guess this is just an indication that there is no standard way to treat wine and that it is very much a question of the grape, the type of wine, the age and other factors.

  • Kevin Macchi

    Maybe if I can find a few friends I would like to make some italian food with ingredients from the North end of Boston and try a vertical of Tiganello starting with the 98.

  • Kevin Macchi

    Maybe if I can find a few friends I would like to make some italian food with ingredients from the North end of Boston and try a vertical of Tiganello starting with the 98.

  • Dr. J. L. Sifuentes

    Nice episode Gary. QOTD: Having a Stag’s Leap Wine Cellars Cask 23 Cab with a fine Allen Brother’s steak to celebrate my Fantasy Basketball team winning the league championship.

  • Dr. J. L. Sifuentes

    Nice episode Gary. QOTD: Having a Stag’s Leap Wine Cellars Cask 23 Cab with a fine Allen Brother’s steak to celebrate my Fantasy Basketball team winning the league championship.

  • Bossman

    Short time viewer, lurker no more. Great episode, as one has come to expect. Tattoos and spiked hair indeed, har! I’m bummed that I spend a lot of time in Chicago but won’t be there this week.

    QOTD – Grant Burge Meshach Shiraz 2001 courtesy of WL sale.

  • Bossman

    Short time viewer, lurker no more. Great episode, as one has come to expect. Tattoos and spiked hair indeed, har! I’m bummed that I spend a lot of time in Chicago but won’t be there this week.

    QOTD – Grant Burge Meshach Shiraz 2001 courtesy of WL sale.

  • 2001 Ornellaia la Serre, had a bottle two days ago, having another at work tomorrow. Pretty impressed with it…wasn’t expecting that much as a second, but after it breathed for a while, it was pretty tasty.

  • 2001 Ornellaia la Serre, had a bottle two days ago, having another at work tomorrow. Pretty impressed with it…wasn’t expecting that much as a second, but after it breathed for a while, it was pretty tasty.

  • Peter G.

    Great job, Gary. Another lurker coming out. I think WLTV is great.
    QOTD – 1999 Chateau St. Jean Cing Cepage. I love this wine.

  • Peter G.

    Great job, Gary. Another lurker coming out. I think WLTV is great.
    QOTD – 1999 Chateau St. Jean Cing Cepage. I love this wine.

  • cpd

    QOTD – I have to work this weekend…rats.

  • cpd

    QOTD – I have to work this weekend…rats.

  • aaronT

    Excellent idea for an episode! We had an opportunity to do this experiment on somebody else’s dime. We were in napa (almost exactly 1 year ago) and showed up at a winery to start tasting just as they opened. The guy pouring prefaced the first wine with “this bottle was opened yesterday, but I actually prefer it that way.” We grimaced, as our next-day-wine experiences had been more along the lines of vinegar. So popped a fresh bottle and gave us a couple extra glasses to go side-by-side (or mano y mano as I expect gary would say it). It was a nice learning experience. Kudos to you trying to explain the difference, for me it was one of those things you taste but can’t describe. Hope you do this again, maybe with an older wine that would be more sensive to oxygen exposure!

  • aaronT

    Excellent idea for an episode! We had an opportunity to do this experiment on somebody else’s dime. We were in napa (almost exactly 1 year ago) and showed up at a winery to start tasting just as they opened. The guy pouring prefaced the first wine with “this bottle was opened yesterday, but I actually prefer it that way.” We grimaced, as our next-day-wine experiences had been more along the lines of vinegar. So popped a fresh bottle and gave us a couple extra glasses to go side-by-side (or mano y mano as I expect gary would say it). It was a nice learning experience. Kudos to you trying to explain the difference, for me it was one of those things you taste but can’t describe. Hope you do this again, maybe with an older wine that would be more sensive to oxygen exposure!

  • Hey, nice ep. Always leave my bottles there for 24 hours. Sometimes even longer when I forgot I popped one. It’s the oxygen here that does the job, surely, but especially the chain reaction of polyphenols and the resulting aldehydes and other molecules make the wine softer. Also because Kanonkop uses a considerable amount of sulphite (they have to), which will be protect the wine for some time (that’s why bottle nr. 3 was maybe the most tightest) and even closes down the palate. Seek it out: it’s very complex biochemistry, too much to scribble down here, but that’s for a large part the way how it works.
    QOTD: maybe a Independent Minds Cab Sauv 1998. We’ll see … .
    C ya

  • Hey, nice ep. Always leave my bottles there for 24 hours. Sometimes even longer when I forgot I popped one. It’s the oxygen here that does the job, surely, but especially the chain reaction of polyphenols and the resulting aldehydes and other molecules make the wine softer. Also because Kanonkop uses a considerable amount of sulphite (they have to), which will be protect the wine for some time (that’s why bottle nr. 3 was maybe the most tightest) and even closes down the palate. Seek it out: it’s very complex biochemistry, too much to scribble down here, but that’s for a large part the way how it works.
    QOTD: maybe a Independent Minds Cab Sauv 1998. We’ll see … .
    C ya

  • wayno da wino

    Gary, Me thinks STEVO should be doin’ da
    Show once/twice a week. Maybe get some
    Chicks decked-out in bikinis & such…..
    Whaddya Say !!???????
    🙂

  • wayno da wino

    Gary, Me thinks STEVO should be doin’ da
    Show once/twice a week. Maybe get some
    Chicks decked-out in bikinis & such…..
    Whaddya Say !!???????
    🙂

  • Matt the Lurker

    Great QOTD, will do. Sir, yes sir!!

  • Matt the Lurker

    Great QOTD, will do. Sir, yes sir!!

  • Shotgun

    The most interesting thing about this episode is the occasional outburst from the birds. WLTV is much better with headphones because the birds are clearly audible. Of course I also hear voices, phones ringing, pages, sirens, and other extraneous sounds that sort of startle me and that take me a couple of seconds to recognize as virtual sounds. I won’t be buying any of your pinotage but I might pick up a couple of parakeets.

  • Shotgun

    The most interesting thing about this episode is the occasional outburst from the birds. WLTV is much better with headphones because the birds are clearly audible. Of course I also hear voices, phones ringing, pages, sirens, and other extraneous sounds that sort of startle me and that take me a couple of seconds to recognize as virtual sounds. I won’t be buying any of your pinotage but I might pick up a couple of parakeets.

  • Jeff M.

    A great episode! I need to try this at home with friends.

    A couple of ideas for the next time you do this episode:
    1. Try a double decant with a fresh bottle, back and forth several times to really get some air in there.
    2. Try the little instrument with the copper tip that you dip in the wine (I don’t recall the name, but it’s sold through mail order in wine suply catalogs). It’s supposed to instantly age the wine- does this thing do anything?

    Question of the day: What great wine am I going to open this weekend? Why of course I’m just going to walk into the cellar and pick a random bottle just like any other night! Do you think I would actually admit to purchasing less than great wines? I love all my little children the same and treat them equally (even though some of them may be fat, have warts, or bad breath).

  • Jeff M.

    A great episode! I need to try this at home with friends.

    A couple of ideas for the next time you do this episode:
    1. Try a double decant with a fresh bottle, back and forth several times to really get some air in there.
    2. Try the little instrument with the copper tip that you dip in the wine (I don’t recall the name, but it’s sold through mail order in wine suply catalogs). It’s supposed to instantly age the wine- does this thing do anything?

    Question of the day: What great wine am I going to open this weekend? Why of course I’m just going to walk into the cellar and pick a random bottle just like any other night! Do you think I would actually admit to purchasing less than great wines? I love all my little children the same and treat them equally (even though some of them may be fat, have warts, or bad breath).

  • Corrado

    Gary-

    If you actually get back to read old posts, check out the link I posted in #91 for a similar double-blind experiment I did with Red Truck during a wine party.

    I did 24h fridge vs. 24h counter-top vs. 4h open bottle (served all @ ‘cellar’ temp) and the results were pretty dramatic, MUCH more compelling than the Pinotage.

    Fridge storage for Red Truck proved the unanimous victor in the test.

  • Corrado

    Gary-

    If you actually get back to read old posts, check out the link I posted in #91 for a similar double-blind experiment I did with Red Truck during a wine party.

    I did 24h fridge vs. 24h counter-top vs. 4h open bottle (served all @ ‘cellar’ temp) and the results were pretty dramatic, MUCH more compelling than the Pinotage.

    Fridge storage for Red Truck proved the unanimous victor in the test.

  • John P

    QOTD – Well, since you asked…. we’re holding a tasting this weekend of 1996, 1998 and 2001 Bordeaux from Leoville Las Cases, Leoville Barton, Leoville Poyferre, Pichon Lalande and Smith Haut Lafitte. We’ll let you know which one was best on Monday!

  • John P

    QOTD – Well, since you asked…. we’re holding a tasting this weekend of 1996, 1998 and 2001 Bordeaux from Leoville Las Cases, Leoville Barton, Leoville Poyferre, Pichon Lalande and Smith Haut Lafitte. We’ll let you know which one was best on Monday!

  • Jen

    Now this one I HAD missed……

  • Jen

    Now this one I HAD missed……

  • Johan

    Interresting episode, I’ll manhandle the wines from now on.

    QOTD: Just because you insist, I’ll take a bottle of Quinta do Ribeirinho Primeira Escolha 2003 that should wait a couple of years. But what the heck…
    … or why not that intruiging Barbera from Gianni Voerzio. I think I’ll go for that one instead.
    By the way, You guys have too many fabulous wines over there.
    /Johan

  • Johan

    Interresting episode, I’ll manhandle the wines from now on.

    QOTD: Just because you insist, I’ll take a bottle of Quinta do Ribeirinho Primeira Escolha 2003 that should wait a couple of years. But what the heck…
    … or why not that intruiging Barbera from Gianni Voerzio. I think I’ll go for that one instead.
    By the way, You guys have too many fabulous wines over there.
    /Johan

  • Erik

    Once again, I’m playing catch-up and viewing my missed episodes of WLTV!

    A very intriguing subject today: what effect will a short period of time or decanting have on the flavor profile (or nose) or the same wine. I’ve often wondered just how early I should start decanting to allow a particular wine to “breathe” and obtain the most from that first sip!

    Fantastic timing on my delayed episode as your QOTD falls just prior to a wine dinner we have planned tonight. This dinner is a special occasion with friends and we’ll be bringing several premium bottles. I have the 1999 Leonetti Cabernet Sauvignon, 2004 Leonetti Merlot, Andrew Will 2001 “Soria”, 2004 Mark Ryan “Dead Horse” magnum, and the 2005 Amon-Ra Shiraz. Should be both fun and memorable!

    Keep up the great work and I’ll keep spreading the word. Where I work we have Wi-Fi access so on a future wine-night we’ll bring in the lap-top and watch an episode of WLTV prior to our tasting!

  • Erik

    Once again, I’m playing catch-up and viewing my missed episodes of WLTV!

    A very intriguing subject today: what effect will a short period of time or decanting have on the flavor profile (or nose) or the same wine. I’ve often wondered just how early I should start decanting to allow a particular wine to “breathe” and obtain the most from that first sip!

    Fantastic timing on my delayed episode as your QOTD falls just prior to a wine dinner we have planned tonight. This dinner is a special occasion with friends and we’ll be bringing several premium bottles. I have the 1999 Leonetti Cabernet Sauvignon, 2004 Leonetti Merlot, Andrew Will 2001 “Soria”, 2004 Mark Ryan “Dead Horse” magnum, and the 2005 Amon-Ra Shiraz. Should be both fun and memorable!

    Keep up the great work and I’ll keep spreading the word. Where I work we have Wi-Fi access so on a future wine-night we’ll bring in the lap-top and watch an episode of WLTV prior to our tasting!

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  • TeeKay

    I think red wines are much stronger than white ones. It is interesting to do the same experiment with white wines.

  • TeeKay

    I think red wines are much stronger than white ones. It is interesting to do the same experiment with white wines.

  • DKBlurker

    Just found this in archive, having just enjoyed the 2006 Kanonkop Pinotage last month. Really liked the “same wine, four ways” tasting and would like to see your try it again, maybe add another variable, temperature. Some like reds at room temp, others like it a little cooler, would make it interesting. Thanks for a good show as always!

  • DKBlurker

    Just found this in archive, having just enjoyed the 2006 Kanonkop Pinotage last month. Really liked the “same wine, four ways” tasting and would like to see your try it again, maybe add another variable, temperature. Some like reds at room temp, others like it a little cooler, would make it interesting. Thanks for a good show as always!

  • bt86

    by the by, I think they pronounce it

    pin-o-tahj or pinnow-tahj

    rather than peen-o-tahj

  • bt86

    by the by, I think they pronounce it

    pin-o-tahj or pinnow-tahj

    rather than peen-o-tahj

  • John__J

    qotd well its not quite your 75 bordeaux Gary, but I gotta 95 special select caymus i’m gonna pop in a couple weeks. I keep hearing those are peaking this year.

    oh and it’s pin-no-targe actually. soft ‘i’ in pin, and ‘targe like it rhymes with ‘large’, believe it or not.

    A vin jaune episode would be cool gary.

  • John J.

    qotd well its not quite your 75 bordeaux Gary, but I gotta 95 special select caymus i’m gonna pop in a couple weeks. I keep hearing those are peaking this year.

    oh and it’s pin-no-targe actually. soft ‘i’ in pin, and ‘targe like it rhymes with ‘large’, believe it or not.

    A vin jaune episode would be cool gary.

  • John__J

    Really cool episode btw Gary, hope to see you did more episodes in the future that way where there was alot of evolution between the wines. I know you’d definitely see that with a nice vin jaune.

  • John J.

    Really cool episode btw Gary, hope to see you did more episodes in the future that way where there was alot of evolution between the wines. I know you’d definitely see that with a nice vin jaune.

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