EP 240 Bringing the Thunder

Today Gary brings out some serious wines and shares some thunder with you.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2004 Roger Sabon Le Secret Des Sabon Chateauneuf Du PapeChateauneuf du Pape Rouge
1999 Frescobaldi Castelgiocondo Riserva Ripe Al Convento Brunello Di MontalcinoBrunello di Montalcino
1995 Vega Sicilia UnicoRibera Del Duero
2003 Chat Leoville PoyferreSt Julien

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  • Dave-from-Katonah

    Yea GREEN BAY!!!! Thanks for the shout out for the mecca of the NFL, Titletown, USA!!

    Loved this episode for the wines. Hated the “in your face” waste of good wine and “40 bones” worth for a double rinse, no less. I have never knocked you for the wine rinse and waste, since afterall, you are doing this whole thing for us loyal fans and it is your dough. Just don’t be a shmuck on WLTV, it discredits what WLTV is all about. LOL!! Give the leftover to Chris Mott or Eric or the cashiers!

    Loved the way you did not spit out the Ch Leoville! Loved the CDP in the leadoff spot as a way of bringing the thunder.

    One of your best efforts. An instant classic. Great TNs.

    QOTD – What confuses me most about wine???? So many things – so little time to write them all down…Wait: What confuses me most is when you tease us loyal Vayniacs with a contest to win the new pickle shirt (which I love), but then forget to talk about it!!!! LOL!!!

  • Yea GREEN BAY!!!! Thanks for the shout out for the mecca of the NFL, Titletown, USA!!

    Loved this episode for the wines. Hated the “in your face” waste of good wine and “40 bones” worth for a double rinse, no less. I have never knocked you for the wine rinse and waste, since afterall, you are doing this whole thing for us loyal fans and it is your dough. Just don’t be a shmuck on WLTV, it discredits what WLTV is all about. LOL!! Give the leftover to Chris Mott or Eric or the cashiers!

    Loved the way you did not spit out the Ch Leoville! Loved the CDP in the leadoff spot as a way of bringing the thunder.

    One of your best efforts. An instant classic. Great TNs.

    QOTD – What confuses me most about wine???? So many things – so little time to write them all down…Wait: What confuses me most is when you tease us loyal Vayniacs with a contest to win the new pickle shirt (which I love), but then forget to talk about it!!!! LOL!!!

  • karl satirev

    QOTD: The German system for categorizing wines is not easy to decode.

  • karl satirev

    QOTD: The German system for categorizing wines is not easy to decode.

  • Dave-from-Katonah

    BTW – how do I get my Gravatr working? Can you have one of you IT guys help me out here? I did register with gravatar.com, but to no avail.

  • BTW – how do I get my Gravatr working? Can you have one of you IT guys help me out here? I did register with gravatar.com, but to no avail.

  • Adam

    QOTD:
    How does one person (RP) have such an effect on the entire wine world? It is the only industry I can think of that is effected by one person.

  • Adam

    QOTD:
    How does one person (RP) have such an effect on the entire wine world? It is the only industry I can think of that is effected by one person.

  • Thankss for emailing us back during our Bern’s dinner last night. We missed you, you would have loved it. We have the 1955 Leoville Las Cases and a 1961 Pavie. EXTREME pleasure! Even better sharing it with TampaSteve, Kahuna and TimF.

    QOTD: The middle portion of the “brewing process” is what I don’t understand.

  • Thankss for emailing us back during our Bern’s dinner last night. We missed you, you would have loved it. We have the 1955 Leoville Las Cases and a 1961 Pavie. EXTREME pleasure! Even better sharing it with TampaSteve, Kahuna and TimF.

    QOTD: The middle portion of the “brewing process” is what I don’t understand.

  • Great ep! Crazy arse wines. 2 bottles for $250 each? Do you offer financing with that? For one of those bottles I could buy 10 1/2 cases of Two Buck Chuck. That’s a bottle of wine every third day for a whole year.

    Just razzin’ ya. Thanks for “taking one for the team” and doing these wines.

  • Great ep! Crazy arse wines. 2 bottles for $250 each? Do you offer financing with that? For one of those bottles I could buy 10 1/2 cases of Two Buck Chuck. That’s a bottle of wine every third day for a whole year.

    Just razzin’ ya. Thanks for “taking one for the team” and doing these wines.

  • eatapc

    QOTD: Burgundy confuses me. Between the growers, the wineries, the negociants and the importers, it requires a professional to decipher it.

    I’m also confused by the high prices of most Burgundies — totally undeserved.

    Which brings me to my last confusion: I don’t “get” red Burgundy (and most pinot noir); it just doesn’t bring the thunder for me. I remember not being surprised by the big scandal of diluted Burgundy being sold for high prices a few years ago. I haven’t bought any this century — don’t intend to — and I haven’t enjoyed a red burgundy since the late 1970s. I appreciate the thought when friends pour it for me, but I just smile, nod my head and bite my tongue when they ask if I think it’s great.

    Great bordeaux can be worth the high prices. Great Burgundy is an oxymoron. (Maybe I’m just speaking from ignorance because I don’t have enough experience with it.)

    So to answer yesterday’s QOTD: What I’d most like to taste is a great Burgundy to prove myself wrong.

  • eatapc

    QOTD: Burgundy confuses me. Between the growers, the wineries, the negociants and the importers, it requires a professional to decipher it.

    I’m also confused by the high prices of most Burgundies — totally undeserved.

    Which brings me to my last confusion: I don’t “get” red Burgundy (and most pinot noir); it just doesn’t bring the thunder for me. I remember not being surprised by the big scandal of diluted Burgundy being sold for high prices a few years ago. I haven’t bought any this century — don’t intend to — and I haven’t enjoyed a red burgundy since the late 1970s. I appreciate the thought when friends pour it for me, but I just smile, nod my head and bite my tongue when they ask if I think it’s great.

    Great bordeaux can be worth the high prices. Great Burgundy is an oxymoron. (Maybe I’m just speaking from ignorance because I don’t have enough experience with it.)

    So to answer yesterday’s QOTD: What I’d most like to taste is a great Burgundy to prove myself wrong.

  • Michael Z

    I sure hope I get to try that Bordeaux someday! The meeting of the two worlds, huh? Pretty exciting! I’ll be in Chicago this weekend visitng family, so maybe I can pick something special on the wine list and they can pay for it …

    QOTD: Probably Bordeaux in part because I’ve never been there so I can’t begin to wrap my head around it.

  • Michael Z

    I sure hope I get to try that Bordeaux someday! The meeting of the two worlds, huh? Pretty exciting! I’ll be in Chicago this weekend visitng family, so maybe I can pick something special on the wine list and they can pay for it …

    QOTD: Probably Bordeaux in part because I’ve never been there so I can’t begin to wrap my head around it.

  • ol_fezziweg

    When I saw “bringing the thunder,” I thought this episode was about the chili I made over the weekend. I’m glad it was only about expensive wines.

    QOTD: Italian wine classifications. They’re even more confounding than German wine classifications.

  • ol_fezziweg

    When I saw “bringing the thunder,” I thought this episode was about the chili I made over the weekend. I’m glad it was only about expensive wines.

    QOTD: Italian wine classifications. They’re even more confounding than German wine classifications.

  • Capt M

    I’ve been so busy and thus behind on all, but I’m back. And this is a beautiful episode, thanks so much. BTW, I just got my bottles of Chateau Guiraud Sauternes. QOTD: Hmm.. perhaps South Africa. I just bought a bottle of South Africa Pinotage today; trying to get into them some.

  • Capt M

    I’ve been so busy and thus behind on all, but I’m back. And this is a beautiful episode, thanks so much. BTW, I just got my bottles of Chateau Guiraud Sauternes. QOTD: Hmm.. perhaps South Africa. I just bought a bottle of South Africa Pinotage today; trying to get into them some.

  • Clifford James

    Thanks gary … great episode.

    NOW, since I have learned that you sometimes do get what you ask for, and it’s always worth asking, how about you sending me the rest of that bottle of 2003 Chat Leoville Poyferre, since I am indeed one heck of a faithful Vayniac, and my girl Darcey loves you too, so: 1811 4th St in Radford Virginia USA 24141! I thank you in advance! Hey, go ahead and hit me up for the shipping if you want!

    Although many may not be able to afford these wines (I am, sadly, near the bottom of that list … for NOW only, though), it is still educational and inspirational to see you taste them and to know what your reactions are to a 97+ wine! As always, it is a pleasure to watch you and to feel a part of the whirlwhind I do believe that you are creating.

    QOTD: All the varieties of grapes out there can be confusing, sometimes with many different names for the same grape, but I’d have to say that I am still confused by all of the Bordeaux wines. They are how I learned wine originally, in the mid 80’s, yet they are such a mystery still compared to wines from the rest of the world, which seem relatively straightforward in comparison. BUT, that also makes them fun and interesting on some level too, so …

    Thanks so much … and my girl Darcey thanks you too!
    Keep it up!

  • Clifford James

    Thanks gary … great episode.

    NOW, since I have learned that you sometimes do get what you ask for, and it’s always worth asking, how about you sending me the rest of that bottle of 2003 Chat Leoville Poyferre, since I am indeed one heck of a faithful Vayniac, and my girl Darcey loves you too, so: 1811 4th St in Radford Virginia USA 24141! I thank you in advance! Hey, go ahead and hit me up for the shipping if you want!

    Although many may not be able to afford these wines (I am, sadly, near the bottom of that list … for NOW only, though), it is still educational and inspirational to see you taste them and to know what your reactions are to a 97+ wine! As always, it is a pleasure to watch you and to feel a part of the whirlwhind I do believe that you are creating.

    QOTD: All the varieties of grapes out there can be confusing, sometimes with many different names for the same grape, but I’d have to say that I am still confused by all of the Bordeaux wines. They are how I learned wine originally, in the mid 80’s, yet they are such a mystery still compared to wines from the rest of the world, which seem relatively straightforward in comparison. BUT, that also makes them fun and interesting on some level too, so …

    Thanks so much … and my girl Darcey thanks you too!
    Keep it up!

  • powerdrill of fruit in your face? Leatherface Meets the Master Somelier IV! lol. too funny…two things: hook us up with some sweet vs. dry in your notes and ya know, you actually *don’t* have to waste $40 in vino to rinse your glass. Just have four clean glasses for each one (I’d say that makes sense for tasting half a grand-plus of vino?). Just sayin, yo.

  • powerdrill of fruit in your face? Leatherface Meets the Master Somelier IV! lol. too funny…two things: hook us up with some sweet vs. dry in your notes and ya know, you actually *don’t* have to waste $40 in vino to rinse your glass. Just have four clean glasses for each one (I’d say that makes sense for tasting half a grand-plus of vino?). Just sayin, yo.

  • Orion Slayer

    Watching today’s episode made me feel like when I was a little kid on Thanksgiving Day watching all the adults at the big table and longing to join them. I’m sipping the kool-aid and watching Gary drink Bordeaux! This is not a complaint, because someday I’ll grow up!

    QOTD: What confuses me the most about wine is how people can detect all those things (leather, cassis, blue-stone, etc.) when they smell and taste wine.

  • Orion Slayer

    Watching today’s episode made me feel like when I was a little kid on Thanksgiving Day watching all the adults at the big table and longing to join them. I’m sipping the kool-aid and watching Gary drink Bordeaux! This is not a complaint, because someday I’ll grow up!

    QOTD: What confuses me the most about wine is how people can detect all those things (leather, cassis, blue-stone, etc.) when they smell and taste wine.

  • vibemore

    If you keep dumping all of that beautiful vino into your Jets bucket you’re going to have to start giving us tasting notes on the bucket as well. (hints of saliva with a lingering tongue finish…that being said, 98 points)

    QOTD:
    I live in Seattle and the Puget Sound region (where I live) has to be the most confusing region to me. With so many great WA state wines (Red Mountain, Walla Walla, Columbia Valley) to drink I have no clue what people are growing in the Puget Sound region. And it is most definitely considered a wine region.

  • vibemore

    If you keep dumping all of that beautiful vino into your Jets bucket you’re going to have to start giving us tasting notes on the bucket as well. (hints of saliva with a lingering tongue finish…that being said, 98 points)

    QOTD:
    I live in Seattle and the Puget Sound region (where I live) has to be the most confusing region to me. With so many great WA state wines (Red Mountain, Walla Walla, Columbia Valley) to drink I have no clue what people are growing in the Puget Sound region. And it is most definitely considered a wine region.

  • jbailey

    Orion Slayer mentioned what I initially thought. How can one detect the slight taste and smell of various things in a wine? I can follow with cherry, oak, blueberry, etc. but when it comes to cat pee, locker room socks, stones, army ranger down the pants, how can one associate these random items to the smell or taste of a wine? The description is great and brings an “ah ha”, but where does this catalog come from? I’ve smelled cat pee….never tasted it. One must be able to really be intuned to smells, tastes of things that are rarely smelled nor tasted. Intriguing.

  • jbailey

    Orion Slayer mentioned what I initially thought. How can one detect the slight taste and smell of various things in a wine? I can follow with cherry, oak, blueberry, etc. but when it comes to cat pee, locker room socks, stones, army ranger down the pants, how can one associate these random items to the smell or taste of a wine? The description is great and brings an “ah ha”, but where does this catalog come from? I’ve smelled cat pee….never tasted it. One must be able to really be intuned to smells, tastes of things that are rarely smelled nor tasted. Intriguing.

  • sharon

    Thanks for the great episode. I will try those wines in my next life or two.
    QOTD: It’s all a mystery to me the terrior, weather, remembering those names, Italy!(Italy is so confusing) and let us not forget the process. What DO they put into the wines besides grapes?

  • sharon

    Thanks for the great episode. I will try those wines in my next life or two.
    QOTD: It’s all a mystery to me the terrior, weather, remembering those names, Italy!(Italy is so confusing) and let us not forget the process. What DO they put into the wines besides grapes?

  • I’m on a mission to save and seek out a bottle from Ch. Leoville Poyferre! I’ve probably heard more about this bottle (in its different vintages) than anything else in Bordeaux.

    QOTD: It confuses me why there are shipping restrictions on some states! (I’m still hoping some miracle saves Texas).

  • I’m on a mission to save and seek out a bottle from Ch. Leoville Poyferre! I’ve probably heard more about this bottle (in its different vintages) than anything else in Bordeaux.

    QOTD: It confuses me why there are shipping restrictions on some states! (I’m still hoping some miracle saves Texas).

  • Susan

    Gary-
    Fabulous ep!
    Just can’t afford ANY of these!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    🙂

    QOD:
    It confuses me why in the
    USA there are shipping restrictions???????
    What third world country is this?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • Susan

    Gary-
    Fabulous ep!
    Just can’t afford ANY of these!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    🙂

    QOD:
    It confuses me why in the
    USA there are shipping restrictions???????
    What third world country is this?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • Jimmy B

    QOTD: It is so confusing to me as how wines can be so expensive and taste terrible and some of the cheaper wines can bring so much satisfaction!

  • Jimmy B

    QOTD: It is so confusing to me as how wines can be so expensive and taste terrible and some of the cheaper wines can bring so much satisfaction!

  • Julius

    What does viscosity smell like? 8)

  • Julius

    What does viscosity smell like? 8)

  • Robert F

    I could never imagine spending $250 on a bottle of wine. $100, yes, but not $250. Maybe when I win the lottery.

    QOTD: The marketing/distributing is really confusing to me. Importing, exporting, 3 tier system, shipping laws. There’s no uniformity in the US. I think they should regulate it so we can buy from whomever we want from wherever we want and pay the same liquor taxes in every state!

  • Robert F

    I could never imagine spending $250 on a bottle of wine. $100, yes, but not $250. Maybe when I win the lottery.

    QOTD: The marketing/distributing is really confusing to me. Importing, exporting, 3 tier system, shipping laws. There’s no uniformity in the US. I think they should regulate it so we can buy from whomever we want from wherever we want and pay the same liquor taxes in every state!

  • JayZee

    OK, so it was great episode. I can afford the occasional $100 bottle of wine and I even bought (somewhat coincidentally) a bottle of 1982 Poyferre this February when I was in Geneva, Switzerland for about $150. I am hopeful that this bottle is superb as well.

    QOTD: What I find most confusing is the absolute disconnection between price and quality. While it has been my experience that a $30 bottle of wine is better than a $12 bottle from the same region and the same type/vintage, there are just too many variables involved. Usually, you do pay an incredible exponential premium for a 95 point wine versus a 90 point wine. But there really isn’t anything close to a good “rule of thumb” let alone a “sure thing”.

    And again, nice wine spill on showing the color – that’s twice this month!!

    Most of the commenters need to post their questions (that’s what most of the QOTD “answers” were, actually) to the Ask WLTV board so people can answer them. However, since Bordeaux is my fave, here is my answer to John BlueLabel and many others: Yes, almost all Bordeaux are blends of cabernet sauvignon, merlot, cabernet franc and petite verdot (at least the first two and often the third or fourth). How do you tell what varietals are present in the blend? Yeah, that is a problem. Basically anything from the left bank of the Gironde River (e.g., Medoc, Haut-Medoc, Pauillac, Saint-Julien, Saint-Estephe, Margaux, and Pessac-Leognan) is predominantly cabernet sauvignon and anything from the right bank (e.g., Saint-Emilion, Pomerol) are predominantly merlot and cab franc blends.

    Gary, I think I added more than 2 cents today. 🙂

  • JayZee

    OK, so it was great episode. I can afford the occasional $100 bottle of wine and I even bought (somewhat coincidentally) a bottle of 1982 Poyferre this February when I was in Geneva, Switzerland for about $150. I am hopeful that this bottle is superb as well.

    QOTD: What I find most confusing is the absolute disconnection between price and quality. While it has been my experience that a $30 bottle of wine is better than a $12 bottle from the same region and the same type/vintage, there are just too many variables involved. Usually, you do pay an incredible exponential premium for a 95 point wine versus a 90 point wine. But there really isn’t anything close to a good “rule of thumb” let alone a “sure thing”.

    And again, nice wine spill on showing the color – that’s twice this month!!

    Most of the commenters need to post their questions (that’s what most of the QOTD “answers” were, actually) to the Ask WLTV board so people can answer them. However, since Bordeaux is my fave, here is my answer to John BlueLabel and many others: Yes, almost all Bordeaux are blends of cabernet sauvignon, merlot, cabernet franc and petite verdot (at least the first two and often the third or fourth). How do you tell what varietals are present in the blend? Yeah, that is a problem. Basically anything from the left bank of the Gironde River (e.g., Medoc, Haut-Medoc, Pauillac, Saint-Julien, Saint-Estephe, Margaux, and Pessac-Leognan) is predominantly cabernet sauvignon and anything from the right bank (e.g., Saint-Emilion, Pomerol) are predominantly merlot and cab franc blends.

    Gary, I think I added more than 2 cents today. 🙂

  • Matt the Lurker

    QOTD – France! Someone once explained to me that French wine is much like the French language… you have to know what something means already in order to understand it. Basically, if you don’t already know then you never will. Lame.

  • Matt the Lurker

    QOTD – France! Someone once explained to me that French wine is much like the French language… you have to know what something means already in order to understand it. Basically, if you don’t already know then you never will. Lame.

  • i want to find some world class wine laying in a bush somewhere.

  • i want to find some world class wine laying in a bush somewhere.

  • qotd – European labeling with the region instead of the blend contents and grapes used…. it almost seems pretentious and maybe that is where the fear and lack of understanding came from.

  • qotd – European labeling with the region instead of the blend contents and grapes used…. it almost seems pretentious and maybe that is where the fear and lack of understanding came from.

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