EP 242 California Cabernet Taste Off.

Gary sits down with 3 very different California Cabernet.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2004 Clos Du Bois Cabernet SauvignonSonoma Cabernet Sauvignon
2004 Seventy Five Wine Co. Cabernet SauvignonOther California Cabernet Sauv
2002 Chateau St Jean Cinq CepagesSonoma Cabernet Sauvignon

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  • bruty

    QOTD: Im going to be drinking Heineken

  • QOTD: Probably a Sav. Blanc I got from WL.

    Take a moment on Monday to thank a service man/women for their service to this county. Freedom isn’t free. I thank each and every one of you.
    Tom

  • QOTD: Probably a Sav. Blanc I got from WL.

    Take a moment on Monday to thank a service man/women for their service to this county. Freedom isn’t free. I thank each and every one of you.
    Tom

  • jorge

    I need to get a benchmark of what the Oak Monster means to Gary, the oak didn’t bother me when I had the 02 CinqCP, I did use a vinturi wine aerator, so maybe that tamed it.
    QOTD: for sure 2004 Mer Soleil Chardonnay, a bunch of bottles, 1998 Val Llach, and perhaps a 1999 Ballot-Millot & Fils Red Meursault. Then drop dead drunk.

  • jorge

    I need to get a benchmark of what the Oak Monster means to Gary, the oak didn’t bother me when I had the 02 CinqCP, I did use a vinturi wine aerator, so maybe that tamed it.
    QOTD: for sure 2004 Mer Soleil Chardonnay, a bunch of bottles, 1998 Val Llach, and perhaps a 1999 Ballot-Millot & Fils Red Meursault. Then drop dead drunk.

  • Garret Nagle

    Hi Gary,

    Today’s episode should remind us all why you avoid CA cabernet… There’s not as much excitement to talk about, except for the fact tht for the quality, the prices seem too high. I haven’t had a CA cab since December!

    That being said, to me, the Hess wines have had some good QPR. The 2002 Hess Collection Cabernet at 34.99 was one of the most polished and well structured wines I’ve had, at a friendy price for Napa. Wine Enthusiast scored it a 94 pointer, but that may be a point or two too high perhaps.

    QOTD: I’m popping a nice bottle of CDP for sure this memorial day, but I wanted to know from you what you meant on Twitter about meeting on Saturday? Does this mean you are going to meet some Vayniacs in LA?

    Garret

  • Garret Nagle

    Hi Gary,

    Today’s episode should remind us all why you avoid CA cabernet… There’s not as much excitement to talk about, except for the fact tht for the quality, the prices seem too high. I haven’t had a CA cab since December!

    That being said, to me, the Hess wines have had some good QPR. The 2002 Hess Collection Cabernet at 34.99 was one of the most polished and well structured wines I’ve had, at a friendy price for Napa. Wine Enthusiast scored it a 94 pointer, but that may be a point or two too high perhaps.

    QOTD: I’m popping a nice bottle of CDP for sure this memorial day, but I wanted to know from you what you meant on Twitter about meeting on Saturday? Does this mean you are going to meet some Vayniacs in LA?

    Garret

  • John Blue Label

    GV,
    Good basic show. Can’t always do the high end, right?
    QOTD: having some grilled chicken and will open a Daniel Barraud 05 Poully Fuisse. Never tried it. Will see if the Oak Monster shows up.

  • John Blue Label

    GV,
    Good basic show. Can’t always do the high end, right?
    QOTD: having some grilled chicken and will open a Daniel Barraud 05 Poully Fuisse. Never tried it. Will see if the Oak Monster shows up.

  • Good show. You’ve inspired me. It’s definitely California Cabernet this weekend. I will make a real effort to like it, despite residual sugar, despite oak, even if it tastes like soda pop. Matter of patriotic pride.

  • Good show. You’ve inspired me. It’s definitely California Cabernet this weekend. I will make a real effort to like it, despite residual sugar, despite oak, even if it tastes like soda pop. Matter of patriotic pride.

  • CindyW

    QOTD: We’re popping open wine in memory of Lance Baer, a Washington winemaker who passed away this week at the much-too-young age of 38. Tonight we’ll be toasting him with some of his wonderful Baer Ursa wine. This weekend, I think we’ll go grab a few more bottles to tuck away.

  • CindyW

    QOTD: We’re popping open wine in memory of Lance Baer, a Washington winemaker who passed away this week at the much-too-young age of 38. Tonight we’ll be toasting him with some of his wonderful Baer Ursa wine. This weekend, I think we’ll go grab a few more bottles to tuck away.

  • Ben N.

    QOTD: 1996 Sterling Diamond Mountain Ranch Cab.

  • KenP

    I’m a little over Cal cabs. Too much alc. and oak to trust a bottle anymore. Parker has done a number on the grape. These days I look for Cal Petite Syrah out of the Sierra Foothills, Petite Verdot, Pinot out of Santa Rita and the Russian River, and Rhone Rangers’ stuff. With reds anyway. That said, Gary, another brutally honest episode. That’s why we love ya man…you tell it like it is. Results may differ, of course.

  • Ben N.

    QOTD: 1996 Sterling Diamond Mountain Ranch Cab.

  • KenP

    I’m a little over Cal cabs. Too much alc. and oak to trust a bottle anymore. Parker has done a number on the grape. These days I look for Cal Petite Syrah out of the Sierra Foothills, Petite Verdot, Pinot out of Santa Rita and the Russian River, and Rhone Rangers’ stuff. With reds anyway. That said, Gary, another brutally honest episode. That’s why we love ya man…you tell it like it is. Results may differ, of course.

  • Neil

    Too bad about the oak monster. He showed up a lot today. Not to be too snobbish but I can’t stand the heavily oaked (wood chips), micro-ox, de alched efforts that 10.00 th 15.00 cabs from California seem to be these days. I could tell you were expecting the worst with the first, but were surprised to find the Chateau St. Jean Cinc Sepages to be too heavily oaked.

    QOTD: Some White Burgundy and, potentially, a 1996 Hartwell Estate Cabernet although it all depends on what’s being served for diner.

  • Neil

    Too bad about the oak monster. He showed up a lot today. Not to be too snobbish but I can’t stand the heavily oaked (wood chips), micro-ox, de alched efforts that 10.00 th 15.00 cabs from California seem to be these days. I could tell you were expecting the worst with the first, but were surprised to find the Chateau St. Jean Cinc Sepages to be too heavily oaked.

    QOTD: Some White Burgundy and, potentially, a 1996 Hartwell Estate Cabernet although it all depends on what’s being served for diner.

  • geespot

    Hey G, good ep. I’m in NYC comtemplating my next drink and now you go and put the Cab in my brain. My wallet always thanks you!

  • geespot

    Hey G, good ep. I’m in NYC comtemplating my next drink and now you go and put the Cab in my brain. My wallet always thanks you!

  • QOTD: That depends on what kind of wedding reception my sister has. It looks like I might be having some more of the Sauvignon Blanc I bought (and reviewed on Cork’d) recently, though.

  • QOTD: That depends on what kind of wedding reception my sister has. It looks like I might be having some more of the Sauvignon Blanc I bought (and reviewed on Cork’d) recently, though.

  • Dan G

    QOTD: Probably some tequilla or rum, wife and I are heading to Cabo on Sunday so not much “good” wine going to be going on that the bars.

  • Dan G

    QOTD: Probably some tequilla or rum, wife and I are heading to Cabo on Sunday so not much “good” wine going to be going on that the bars.

  • tim

    Good show! Nice variety of price points and wines that I have seen in the wine shop! QOTD: Friday- Chardonnay, Sat- Margaritas, Sunday-sober :(, Monday is still up for grabs, but I am thinking of trying the Granache I got from WINE LIBRARY Free shipping!

  • tim

    Good show! Nice variety of price points and wines that I have seen in the wine shop! QOTD: Friday- Chardonnay, Sat- Margaritas, Sunday-sober :(, Monday is still up for grabs, but I am thinking of trying the Granache I got from WINE LIBRARY Free shipping!

  • Matt the Lurker

    QOTD – Something I bought on WLTV or maybe some home brew. Got a nice pilsner right now with a hint of banana peal flavor for some reason.

  • Matt the Lurker

    QOTD – Something I bought on WLTV or maybe some home brew. Got a nice pilsner right now with a hint of banana peal flavor for some reason.

  • Robin

    QOTD: I’m thinking of the ZD 2004 Pinot Noir Carneros Reserve for Memorial Day.
    We just had an $9.00 Argentinial wine that I really, really liked – Fantelli Malbec Mendoza 2004: lots of blueberry and charcoal with a bit of dark chocolate and mint. I need to try more to see if I still like it. It was in Wine Spectator at 83 points, but I’d give it more. I’m very into blueberries.

  • Robin

    QOTD: I’m thinking of the ZD 2004 Pinot Noir Carneros Reserve for Memorial Day.
    We just had an $9.00 Argentinial wine that I really, really liked – Fantelli Malbec Mendoza 2004: lots of blueberry and charcoal with a bit of dark chocolate and mint. I need to try more to see if I still like it. It was in Wine Spectator at 83 points, but I’d give it more. I’m very into blueberries.

  • Billy G

    I just had the 1975 a tasting this week. It is a decent value for California Cab.

    I’ll be in Santa Barbara tasting all kinds of stuff this weekend.

    Cheers

  • Billy G

    I just had the 1975 a tasting this week. It is a decent value for California Cab.

    I’ll be in Santa Barbara tasting all kinds of stuff this weekend.

    Cheers

  • SoCal

    G,
    Ya let me down…..I too was born in 1975…..I too think it is a great year…..but you said that this wine is a little fake must be December!
    AHHHHHH!
    DOB: 12/17/1975
    QOTD: Visiting my buddy the is a new world type of guy so: Vineyard 29 Cru 2004, Page wine Cellars 2001 & 2002, Bodega Numanthia Termes Toro Termes 2004, Joseph Phelps Cab 2002, and Larkmead Cab 2004.
    …..december….ha

  • SoCal

    G,
    Ya let me down…..I too was born in 1975…..I too think it is a great year…..but you said that this wine is a little fake must be December!
    AHHHHHH!
    DOB: 12/17/1975
    QOTD: Visiting my buddy the is a new world type of guy so: Vineyard 29 Cru 2004, Page wine Cellars 2001 & 2002, Bodega Numanthia Termes Toro Termes 2004, Joseph Phelps Cab 2002, and Larkmead Cab 2004.
    …..december….ha

  • Jonathon M Chicago

    QOTD: What ever is on the wine list at The American Club.
    I’ll check it out after I play Whistling Straits!

  • Jonathon M Chicago

    QOTD: What ever is on the wine list at The American Club.
    I’ll check it out after I play Whistling Straits!

  • Mike Hale

    QOTD:

    I am going to switch it up a little this Mem. Day weekend and drink some of the home brew my buddies and I mad recently. We mad a nice Pilsner that should be ready to be consumed and an IPA that is getting close to ready to be transfered to the secondary vessel.

  • Mike Hale

    QOTD:

    I am going to switch it up a little this Mem. Day weekend and drink some of the home brew my buddies and I mad recently. We mad a nice Pilsner that should be ready to be consumed and an IPA that is getting close to ready to be transfered to the secondary vessel.

  • Dominus

    A very good show. Any time you review CA Cabs it’s a good show. Too bad you included the Clos but understand your reasoning due to price points. Maybe a show on 2nd growths/bottlings of major CA cabs, i.e. Innisfree of Jos Phelps?

    QOTD: Well, since you unveiled the Cinq Cepages (your fav number, 5, rears its head) I’m going to uncork the one that was #1 WS a few years ago. I bought a few at 30 bones so this should be a good comparison to see if the Oak Monster is still alive and kicking.

    Cheers!

    P.S. Thanks for displaying Peyton with his two buddies, The Dominus Twins.

  • Dominus

    A very good show. Any time you review CA Cabs it’s a good show. Too bad you included the Clos but understand your reasoning due to price points. Maybe a show on 2nd growths/bottlings of major CA cabs, i.e. Innisfree of Jos Phelps?

    QOTD: Well, since you unveiled the Cinq Cepages (your fav number, 5, rears its head) I’m going to uncork the one that was #1 WS a few years ago. I bought a few at 30 bones so this should be a good comparison to see if the Oak Monster is still alive and kicking.

    Cheers!

    P.S. Thanks for displaying Peyton with his two buddies, The Dominus Twins.

  • Harold

    November 14, 1975? November 14, 1969! I knew there was a reason that I liked Gary V.

  • Harold

    November 14, 1975? November 14, 1969! I knew there was a reason that I liked Gary V.

  • Samantha H.

    QOTD: Meeting up with dad for the weekend – he lives near the Finger Lakes and he’s bringing a couple of bottle from up there, so it’ll be a surprise!

  • Samantha H.

    QOTD: Meeting up with dad for the weekend – he lives near the Finger Lakes and he’s bringing a couple of bottle from up there, so it’ll be a surprise!

  • Harold

    QOTD: I will be popping two bottles in particular this weekend: Les Verrieres De Montagnac Clos Des Soutyeres Coteaux Du Languedoc 2004 and Bride of Black Bart 2005 both of which I discovered thanks to WLTV.

  • Harold

    QOTD: I will be popping two bottles in particular this weekend: Les Verrieres De Montagnac Clos Des Soutyeres Coteaux Du Languedoc 2004 and Bride of Black Bart 2005 both of which I discovered thanks to WLTV.

  • Orion Slayer

    Thanks for a great episode. It’s cool when you drink wines that I see on the shelf of my local wine store. I’ve been curious about the Clos du Bois and hadn’t been thinking about the Ch. St Jean because of the price. How does Cellar 8 compare?

    QOTD: I hope to pick up an Albariño and try it.

    PS: I still owe you a picture of me wearing a sweatband! :~

  • Dave-from-Katonah

    Gary – Great ep. Good form. Good energy. No jerking around.
    Jorge has a point. Do you think decanting for 2-3hrs might help that Oak Monster melt off the Ch St Jean?? 4-5 hrs?

    QOTD – I was thinking of popping that Philip Togni Spring Mtn 2004, or else maybe that Guigal Cote de Rote Brune et Blonde 2003. I still have to try that CDP Paul Autaard 2003 or the 2003 Ch Montviel Pomerol. Which would you pick 1,2,3,4??

    Wish I was with Jonathon M Chicago playing Whistling Straits, but I’ll just have to settle for Centennial in Carmel, NY – my home away from home!

    Have a good holiday weekend to you Gary and to all you Vayniacs!!

  • Orion Slayer

    Thanks for a great episode. It’s cool when you drink wines that I see on the shelf of my local wine store. I’ve been curious about the Clos du Bois and hadn’t been thinking about the Ch. St Jean because of the price. How does Cellar 8 compare?

    QOTD: I hope to pick up an Albariño and try it.

    PS: I still owe you a picture of me wearing a sweatband! :~

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