Gary,

I’ve had wines that smelled like vomit, I was happy that it didn’t TASTE like it…

QOD: I haven’t actually had a real Burgundy Pinot in my life. Evah. I guess that means it’s time to put it on the damn shopping list.

QOTD: According to my cellar records, I have owned at one time or another (and drunk up) 28 red Burgundies and one Pinot Noir from Provence. Add to this French Pinot Noirs I have had at tastings, and I have probably had somewhere in the upper 30s. Considering that I have been drinking wine pretty regularly for around 25 years, this is very little. And there is a reason for that. I can’t afford the really good Burgundies. Most of these wines cost about $20 or less (or the equivalent — e.g., I was buying Burgundies for under $10 in the early 1980s), and they weren’t all that impressive.

The one time I had some expensive Burgundies was at a tasting being conducted by the importer Robert Kacher. Unfortunately, I can’t remember offhand what they were (although the name Jayer comes to me). I would have to dig deep into my records to find the notes. I do remember that they were completely unlike any of the less expensive Burgundies I had had, and not necessarily in a good way. They were huge and tannic and oaky. They tasted like the sort of wines I would put away to cellar for 10 years or more. When I asked Kacher afterwards if he thought they needed to be cellared, he gave me a strange look and ended the conversation as soon as he could.

QOTD: According to my cellar records, I have owned at one time or another (and drunk up) 28 red Burgundies and one Pinot Noir from Provence. Add to this French Pinot Noirs I have had at tastings, and I have probably had somewhere in the upper 30s. Considering that I have been drinking wine pretty regularly for around 25 years, this is very little. And there is a reason for that. I can’t afford the really good Burgundies. Most of these wines cost about $20 or less (or the equivalent — e.g., I was buying Burgundies for under $10 in the early 1980s), and they weren’t all that impressive.

The one time I had some expensive Burgundies was at a tasting being conducted by the importer Robert Kacher. Unfortunately, I can’t remember offhand what they were (although the name Jayer comes to me). I would have to dig deep into my records to find the notes. I do remember that they were completely unlike any of the less expensive Burgundies I had had, and not necessarily in a good way. They were huge and tannic and oaky. They tasted like the sort of wines I would put away to cellar for 10 years or more. When I asked Kacher afterwards if he thought they needed to be cellared, he gave me a strange look and ended the conversation as soon as he could.

QOTD: A few dozen actually. I really got into pinot noir as a transition wine to start appreciating red wines (Well before Sideways- we’re talking ’96-’97).

I could barely quaff a pinot greigo that smelled like cat pee- but a burgundy that smells like vomit? When I was in grade school the person that cleaned it up would throw sawdust on it. Now maybe sawdust and vomit on the palatte, no- still no go.

Q.O.T.D. – Well honestly it involves another dream…nice show GV. Want a full report on the tokaji’s and when they’re coming in to the shop!

Finally. Another episode on (red) Burgundy.

QOTD: too many to count. C’mon, close to half of my cellar is Burgundy…

QOTD: I’ve had several red burgandies, but I don’t get them the way I get Babcock. The best one I’ve had is Grand Echezeaux, Romanee Conti at a Wilson Daniels pinot wine dinner but the decision was made to serve the star wine toward the end of the 7 course dinner and the dinner although beautiful (in a great Santa Fe patio) was interminable and by the time we got to the Romanee Conti the table next to us was singing and I don’t know if anyone really appreciated the wine. We would have left early, but I wanted the tres leches cake and I had never heard of the dessert wine and wanted to try it. I don’t remember it either now.

You have some very erudite commentators lately.

QOTD: Guestimate – probably averaged 3 or 4 per year over the last 10 yrs.

QOTD: 0

Great show Gary. I love Pinot from most everywhere in the world including Oregon. Did a trip to Burgundy a couple of years ago and tried like 50 different wines during that 5 days, plus probably another 30-35 bottles or so after that. But I haven’t tried any of these, so I look forward to them.

Great show Gary. I love Pinot from most everywhere in the world including Oregon. Did a trip to Burgundy a couple of years ago and tried like 50 different wines during that 5 days, plus probably another 30-35 bottles or so after that. But I haven’t tried any of these, so I look forward to them.

QOTD: Joseph Drouhin Clos de Mouche Red

Very nice, but lacks the ‘knockout punch.’

Education show for me, thanks.

QOTD: 0. I never really considered them because I simply assumed the price point would not be a consideration for me. This show definitely opened my eyes in that regard.

Big Bob: What I was trying to say, using my poor writing skills, was I own a Bourgogne Pinot Noir, but I have not tasted one yet.

0. Sorry. 🙂

Umm.. NADA!
And we’re only fond of a few pinot’s from cali.

QOTD: 2: Domaine Greffet Bourgogne Pinot N. & Beaujolais; soon to try Aloxe-Corton, Maranges, Mercurey, Pommard, Volnay, Chambolle-Musigny & Marsannay

Bravo!!!! les Bourgogne make their appearance!!! when burgundy is good, it is sooo good. the entry burgundies are good, but a volnay, chambolle musigny, nuit st. george wooooo hoooo.
In my experience so far with the 2005’s ( only the entry level wines have come out and the titans are starting to make their appearance) they tend to have exceptional acidity which seams a little tough right now. these need to relax a bit. a good village wine that wont kill your pocket is givry and marsannay. both are very good and not $200 a bottle. 1999, 2002 are super years. 2003 is atypical, 2004 is better for whites in general. 2005, bombs are dropping.
QOTD: i have had a bunch of burgundy and still not enough. it is probably the hardest wine region to figure out and the most simple… pinot & chard…. c’est tout.

getting a bit happy from this wine tasting marathon aren’t we?? 🙂

QOTD: 4-5, have another 4 in my cellar. haven’t had one that rocked my world yet, they are nice but sometimes can get too poo-poo smelling.

AP

I’ve only had about 12 Burgundies. I have found them interesting but overpriced so I haven’t put in the effort to truly understand the region.

PS: everyone should love the poop. Good Burgundy tastes like shit.:

PS: everyone should love the poop. Good Burgundy tastes like shit.:

thanks for doing this episode. I love Pinot (well, who doesn’t) but it’s really intimidating getting into burgundy pinots due to price and the million different names out there

QOTD: I’ve only ever had 2 Pinots from france. Both have been slightly under 50 and was a while ago. It’s just hard to justify splashing out $80 on a burg when you can get a quality oregon pinot for half the price

First!

QOTD: Only five. Hmm… time to go shopping for Old World Pinot!

Gary,
Just finished enjoying a bottle of the Terlato & Chapoutier Shiraz/Viognier and it was fantastic…like creme brulee you found sitting on a rotting log in the woods :). Great suggestion.

qotd: have only drank calif. pinots, but will give it a try. vive la france!