EP 306 California Chardonnay and Questions.

Gary resets after the whole Vayniac wine. We do some questions and taste some Chardonnay.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Chappellet Chardonnay NapaNapa Chardonnay
2003 Vineyard 7 & 8 Vineyard 8 Chardonnay ReserveNapa Chardonnay

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  • wmole

    I love it Gary when you throw corks and talk to Chris Mott. Every great show has a sideman, and he’s yours… Your press portrays you as the wine world’s everyman, talking to your cameraman cinches it, great stuff, how many stars do that? (Julia Roberts?) Keep bringing it bro G. Also, yeah, I love your tasting descriptions and ratings because you put so much life, energy, and reality into them, it’s what makes this show so enjoyable.

    Discovery? I’m a champagne/sparkling wine slut, haven’t had one I’ve disliked yet.

  • wmole

    I love it Gary when you throw corks and talk to Chris Mott. Every great show has a sideman, and he’s yours… Your press portrays you as the wine world’s everyman, talking to your cameraman cinches it, great stuff, how many stars do that? (Julia Roberts?) Keep bringing it bro G. Also, yeah, I love your tasting descriptions and ratings because you put so much life, energy, and reality into them, it’s what makes this show so enjoyable.

    Discovery? I’m a champagne/sparkling wine slut, haven’t had one I’ve disliked yet.

  • wmole

    Pretty scary post Jen. Why? Me too! Thanks for the recommendation. Have the Tom’s deodorant and it makes my pits smell like wet dog fir. Did you catch that aroma profile? I was thinking about “secret unscented” as a replacement until I read your post and was thinking…..

    “Two vaynians, unoffensive, and desiring to remain so, find odor protection in an unexpected place. Their quest for fine wine has brought them to a place where “nose” takes on a new meaning, they ask the question, does my human aroma overtake, surpass or in any way trump the enjoyment of this wine or affect my personal relations with other beings? Am I offensive?

    Two different people, one has the answer, the other? has just seen that Target sign post ahead, and has entered the twilight zone.

    Thanks Jen! You smell great!

  • wmole

    Pretty scary post Jen. Why? Me too! Thanks for the recommendation. Have the Tom’s deodorant and it makes my pits smell like wet dog fir. Did you catch that aroma profile? I was thinking about “secret unscented” as a replacement until I read your post and was thinking…..

    “Two vaynians, unoffensive, and desiring to remain so, find odor protection in an unexpected place. Their quest for fine wine has brought them to a place where “nose” takes on a new meaning, they ask the question, does my human aroma overtake, surpass or in any way trump the enjoyment of this wine or affect my personal relations with other beings? Am I offensive?

    Two different people, one has the answer, the other? has just seen that Target sign post ahead, and has entered the twilight zone.

    Thanks Jen! You smell great!

  • wmole

    Gary, pumping Albarino one day as the new chard and then bashing two cali chards soon after? tsk, tsk.

    Nonetheless, tried an Albarino for the first time and loved it! Thanks bro.

  • wmole

    Gary, pumping Albarino one day as the new chard and then bashing two cali chards soon after? tsk, tsk.

    Nonetheless, tried an Albarino for the first time and loved it! Thanks bro.

  • Rani H

    Great show GV.

    QOTD: A new discovery for myself is that I am finally beginning to enjoy different styles of white wines. Listening to the way you describe the nose or the taste opens my mind up to a much wider variety of scents/flavors I may not immediately think of due to my slowly maturing palate. I have a much better appreciation for these wines now that I previously did not know how to enjoy. Thanx GV!

    –Rani H

  • Great show GV.

    QOTD: A new discovery for myself is that I am finally beginning to enjoy different styles of white wines. Listening to the way you describe the nose or the taste opens my mind up to a much wider variety of scents/flavors I may not immediately think of due to my slowly maturing palate. I have a much better appreciation for these wines now that I previously did not know how to enjoy. Thanx GV!

    –Rani H

  • Disagree with you on the Chappellet. While I prefer non-ML and subtly oaked chards from California like Mayacamas or Stony Hill, the Chappellet is a nice example of a well-mannered “California-style” chard. Haven’t tried the 8.

    Sorry to say but the bobble head looks nothing like you. Looks more like Nick Faldo the professional golfer. Plus they needed to throw in a few spikes into the hair, like you are fond of wearing from time to time. I have to give the GV bobble head a 78, and for that, a huge PAZZZZZZZZZZZ…

  • Disagree with you on the Chappellet. While I prefer non-ML and subtly oaked chards from California like Mayacamas or Stony Hill, the Chappellet is a nice example of a well-mannered “California-style” chard. Haven’t tried the 8.

    Sorry to say but the bobble head looks nothing like you. Looks more like Nick Faldo the professional golfer. Plus they needed to throw in a few spikes into the hair, like you are fond of wearing from time to time. I have to give the GV bobble head a 78, and for that, a huge PAZZZZZZZZZZZ…

  • Justin S.

    My .02; The wine world is changing and the producers seem to be listening, I’ve noticed a big shift in Chardonnay lately.

    QOTD: I am going to have to say my new Gravely Hydro mower, it’s manly. ๐Ÿ™‚ And in the wine world, wines from the Lodi region seem to be kicking ass.

  • Justin S.

    My .02; The wine world is changing and the producers seem to be listening, I’ve noticed a big shift in Chardonnay lately.

    QOTD: I am going to have to say my new Gravely Hydro mower, it’s manly. ๐Ÿ™‚ And in the wine world, wines from the Lodi region seem to be kicking ass.

  • Nathan

    QOTD:
    Smoking a pipe.

  • Nathan

    QOTD:
    Smoking a pipe.

  • Greg Schimizzi

    Gary,

    I loved the dolcetto episode. This is a wonderful grape with tremendous palate ‘tonality’ depending upon producer as well as vineyard location and seasonal variations (nature + terroir = nattoir). I am so glad to hear that you appreciate this wonderful wine and I too am sorry that it is not as readily available. I like to think of it as a hidden treasure also.

    I enjoyed your Chardonnay show today also. California chardonnays have always intrigued and befuddled me. I have a kind of love – hate relationship with them and it is not the fault of the grape, the land or mother nature. It is what has been done to the juice. This grape has been prodded, primped, jazzzed, oaked, buttered and at other times completely disrobed. (I personally prefer the naked Chards best.) I know that the California Chardonnays are my choice for a party white wine, but I have great difficulty pairing some of them to foods and considering it a serious food wine. I tend to go to old world white wines when serious food is involved. I think that California has the most to gain by refocusing Chardonnay into a true expression of the grape given the wonderful land, climate and expertise available.

    Greg S

    PS Consider episodes on;
    Wines made from the garganega grape and trebbiano: As you had in episode 220, the Soaveรข??s can be subtle, elegant, refreshing and delightful.
    Would it be over the top to do an entire episode on Soave? You loved the Gini La Frosca – right up your alley with bake shop, floral, fruit and mineral on one hand. Others can be packed with fruit and honey in the recioto versions.
    And an epsiode on desert wines made by different techniques: Botrytis, Eiswine, recolta, passiti, fortifying.

  • Greg Schimizzi

    Gary,

    I loved the dolcetto episode. This is a wonderful grape with tremendous palate ‘tonality’ depending upon producer as well as vineyard location and seasonal variations (nature + terroir = nattoir). I am so glad to hear that you appreciate this wonderful wine and I too am sorry that it is not as readily available. I like to think of it as a hidden treasure also.

    I enjoyed your Chardonnay show today also. California chardonnays have always intrigued and befuddled me. I have a kind of love – hate relationship with them and it is not the fault of the grape, the land or mother nature. It is what has been done to the juice. This grape has been prodded, primped, jazzzed, oaked, buttered and at other times completely disrobed. (I personally prefer the naked Chards best.) I know that the California Chardonnays are my choice for a party white wine, but I have great difficulty pairing some of them to foods and considering it a serious food wine. I tend to go to old world white wines when serious food is involved. I think that California has the most to gain by refocusing Chardonnay into a true expression of the grape given the wonderful land, climate and expertise available.

    Greg S

    PS Consider episodes on;
    Wines made from the garganega grape and trebbiano: As you had in episode 220, the Soaveรข??s can be subtle, elegant, refreshing and delightful.
    Would it be over the top to do an entire episode on Soave? You loved the Gini La Frosca – right up your alley with bake shop, floral, fruit and mineral on one hand. Others can be packed with fruit and honey in the recioto versions.
    And an epsiode on desert wines made by different techniques: Botrytis, Eiswine, recolta, passiti, fortifying.

  • QOTD: My new wine discovery is Spanish wines! Had tapas last night and experimented with a Rioja Crianza and a Rueda. Yummy! ๐Ÿ™‚

  • QOTD: My new wine discovery is Spanish wines! Had tapas last night and experimented with a Rioja Crianza and a Rueda. Yummy! ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Garrett,

    Please…her name is JANCIS, JANCIS, JANCIS – that’s Jan’-sis…not Janice!!! Sorry, but that drives me crazy.

    Kurt

  • Garrett,

    Please…her name is JANCIS, JANCIS, JANCIS – that’s Jan’-sis…not Janice!!! Sorry, but that drives me crazy.

    Kurt

  • Greg B.

    Big G, I like it. Nice friday show. Too bad about the 84’s.

    QOTD: For the last six months my new discovery has been WLTV and I just have to say thank you Bro!

  • Greg B.

    Big G, I like it. Nice friday show. Too bad about the 84’s.

    QOTD: For the last six months my new discovery has been WLTV and I just have to say thank you Bro!

  • First time I have listened and not agreed with you at all Gary. I read, watch you, taste, and read some more. Problem is there are thousands of wines out there. Maybe you who have access to any wine you want to taste can get to thousands of wines but neither I nor the giant majority of your watchers can. Yes, I agree, I hated the Chapallett but don’t really want to taste it again as the wine you tasted is what the last 5 vintages of Chapallett have been. But all of us need someone to point a direction. Wine really is an expensive hobby and one that I’m not fond of wasting a lot of money on drinking bad wines on purpose. I have had more than enough bad wines to know the smell and taste of a bad wine. I think that you can quite quickly fall into the same trap of all of the elitist wine advisors but in a reverse way. Don’t forget that we buy the wines. No one hands us 30 bottles to sample. Also, I find in my business, medicine, there are no stupid questions, just the unasked ones so when someone asks a question that you feel is stupid either don’t answer it or don’t put them down. So continue to advise. Scoring is only a guide obviously but there need to be some guides somewhere that people can rely on. Hoping you will continue that. This is about the first episode from the begining that I have been totally disappointed with.

  • First time I have listened and not agreed with you at all Gary. I read, watch you, taste, and read some more. Problem is there are thousands of wines out there. Maybe you who have access to any wine you want to taste can get to thousands of wines but neither I nor the giant majority of your watchers can. Yes, I agree, I hated the Chapallett but don’t really want to taste it again as the wine you tasted is what the last 5 vintages of Chapallett have been. But all of us need someone to point a direction. Wine really is an expensive hobby and one that I’m not fond of wasting a lot of money on drinking bad wines on purpose. I have had more than enough bad wines to know the smell and taste of a bad wine. I think that you can quite quickly fall into the same trap of all of the elitist wine advisors but in a reverse way. Don’t forget that we buy the wines. No one hands us 30 bottles to sample. Also, I find in my business, medicine, there are no stupid questions, just the unasked ones so when someone asks a question that you feel is stupid either don’t answer it or don’t put them down. So continue to advise. Scoring is only a guide obviously but there need to be some guides somewhere that people can rely on. Hoping you will continue that. This is about the first episode from the begining that I have been totally disappointed with.

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    qotd::: WLTV

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  • */^_^\*

    qotd::: WLTV

    ๐Ÿ™‚

  • jason

    laid back friday was real laid back.

    QOTD: Kaefferkopf Riesling from Alsace. I have had a bottle or two of wines from Kaefferkopf ( it is a village in alsace that is sort of rare and produces good quality wines) but over the weekend, i had a great bottle of 2005 for 9 euros that was really good. there was a nice tension between acidity, fruit and minerals. loved it.

    also l *_* l for a tape cassette

  • jason

    laid back friday was real laid back.

    QOTD: Kaefferkopf Riesling from Alsace. I have had a bottle or two of wines from Kaefferkopf ( it is a village in alsace that is sort of rare and produces good quality wines) but over the weekend, i had a great bottle of 2005 for 9 euros that was really good. there was a nice tension between acidity, fruit and minerals. loved it.

    also l *_* l for a tape cassette

  • jason

    SHOULDERS!!!!!!! it also a term that can be used to describe a wine that is large in stature, masculine and has weight a muscle. for example a hermitage or cote roti are wines that have shoulders and a wine form say chambolle musigny is not a wine that has shoulders.

  • SHOULDERS!!!!!!! it also a term that can be used to describe a wine that is large in stature, masculine and has weight a muscle. for example a hermitage or cote roti are wines that have shoulders and a wine form say chambolle musigny is not a wine that has shoulders.

  • AlisonD

    Too bad these Chardonnays werent very good..I am always looking for a new one.

  • AlisonD

    Too bad these Chardonnays werent very good..I am always looking for a new one.

  • Tommy Vernieri

    Glad my Dolcetto comment made you happy, Gary.

    QOTD: Maple Bacon Cupcakes! You heard me right, bacon, in a cupcake. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tommyvernieri/1304374137/

    I have to say, I agree with some of what Sassodoro said. There are no stupid questions; that said, I do love your intensity and attitude and I’m sure any regular viewers will realize that you don’t want to talk to JayO’s friends on the phone to tell them they’re stupid but instead to convince to expand their wine world.

    Keep it fun and make some cupcakes!

  • Tommy Vernieri

    Glad my Dolcetto comment made you happy, Gary.

    QOTD: Maple Bacon Cupcakes! You heard me right, bacon, in a cupcake. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tommyvernieri/1304374137/

    I have to say, I agree with some of what Sassodoro said. There are no stupid questions; that said, I do love your intensity and attitude and I’m sure any regular viewers will realize that you don’t want to talk to JayO’s friends on the phone to tell them they’re stupid but instead to convince to expand their wine world.

    Keep it fun and make some cupcakes!

  • Jeff Cleveland

    QOTD: Twitter! I’m having a blast with it.

  • Jeff Cleveland

    QOTD: Twitter! I’m having a blast with it.

  • maggiej

    Forgot to comment on the BIG DAY! Sounds like great fun…too bad the wine is pricey, though it will probably have great QPR ๐Ÿ™‚

    QOTD: tea salad at a Burmese restaurant. That’s right, cooked tea leaves…yummy. Also found and enjoyed the tasting room at McKeon Phillips, in Santa Maria, CA, especially the 15 wine line-up.

  • maggiej

    Forgot to comment on the BIG DAY! Sounds like great fun…too bad the wine is pricey, though it will probably have great QPR ๐Ÿ™‚

    QOTD: tea salad at a Burmese restaurant. That’s right, cooked tea leaves…yummy. Also found and enjoyed the tasting room at McKeon Phillips, in Santa Maria, CA, especially the 15 wine line-up.

  • GottaGoDrink

    No bobble head has ever looked like the person. Yours is no different.

    Gary- Loved the show! Two wines that you really hated, your facial expressions were outstanding…”I really don’t like this wine.”

    QOTD- Brunello. Cheers!

  • GottaGoDrink

    No bobble head has ever looked like the person. Yours is no different.

    Gary- Loved the show! Two wines that you really hated, your facial expressions were outstanding…”I really don’t like this wine.”

    QOTD- Brunello. Cheers!

  • Madcap

    First episode for me (I’m looking back on the rest though) and I haven’t a clue what I’m watching but I like it and I’ll keep watching. Thank Diggnation for the mention cause Kevin Rose brought me here.

  • Madcap

    First episode for me (I’m looking back on the rest though) and I haven’t a clue what I’m watching but I like it and I’ll keep watching. Thank Diggnation for the mention cause Kevin Rose brought me here.

  • Sassodoro, I agree with you…. and with BK. I think it is possible to maintain the GV style and being informative at the same time. He often do this. Was the original question stupid? Yes, for sure. But there are reasons for that. You partially explain here as well as I pointed out at the “ask” site. Vintners often put their products on bottles shapes that could suggest a reference in style to the regions that you pointed out. For instance, if everyone talks about how “great” Bordeaux is -overshadowing other great places-, it make sense that this factoid did emerge. However, I believe WLTV should be safe for everyone, specially for the ones that are starting.

    Gary, slow down a bit and try to understand where this things come from, ok? Being so passionate sometimes blurs our vision.

    On the other hand… IT IS SO COOL that my question got answered… so passionately. ๐Ÿ˜‰ And I have to say that I could not expect anything else from you. After all, you’ve talked and talked about the importance of trusting your palate. By just mentioning that you like and respect these other people (please, don’t butcher JanCis, not Janis) and publications you reinforce the idea that there are so many different opinions out there. And that, my friend, includes your listeners opinions. You bring a whole new dimension to something that sometimes could sound patronizing (which I know that is not).

    Still waiting for the Familia Deicas Premiere Cru Garage to be tasted. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Sassodoro, I agree with you…. and with BK. I think it is possible to maintain the GV style and being informative at the same time. He often do this. Was the original question stupid? Yes, for sure. But there are reasons for that. You partially explain here as well as I pointed out at the “ask” site. Vintners often put their products on bottles shapes that could suggest a reference in style to the regions that you pointed out. For instance, if everyone talks about how “great” Bordeaux is -overshadowing other great places-, it make sense that this factoid did emerge. However, I believe WLTV should be safe for everyone, specially for the ones that are starting.

    Gary, slow down a bit and try to understand where this things come from, ok? Being so passionate sometimes blurs our vision.

    On the other hand… IT IS SO COOL that my question got answered… so passionately. ๐Ÿ˜‰ And I have to say that I could not expect anything else from you. After all, you’ve talked and talked about the importance of trusting your palate. By just mentioning that you like and respect these other people (please, don’t butcher JanCis, not Janis) and publications you reinforce the idea that there are so many different opinions out there. And that, my friend, includes your listeners opinions. You bring a whole new dimension to something that sometimes could sound patronizing (which I know that is not).

    Still waiting for the Familia Deicas Premiere Cru Garage to be tasted. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • QOTD: A fantastic old and made to be oxidized Viรƒยฑa Tondonia Reserva Blanco 88 (Rioja, Spain). It has an amazing character and freshness.

  • QOTD: A fantastic old and made to be oxidized Viรƒยฑa Tondonia Reserva Blanco 88 (Rioja, Spain). It has an amazing character and freshness.

  • J Crazy

    QOTD: Organized paper work. I’m starting a company and it’s vital that I have all my paper work organized. This is not my forte but as I practice more I get better. Just like with wine; practice makes better.

  • J Crazy

    QOTD: Organized paper work. I’m starting a company and it’s vital that I have all my paper work organized. This is not my forte but as I practice more I get better. Just like with wine; practice makes better.

  • chenin

    Gary,

    What a shame you have to answer thousands of emails, and I pity
    you because I couldn’t even think of doing that.
    I won’t send you an email.

    PEOPLE !!! Instead of sending emails, post it here in the comments or
    the forums. Give a guy a break.

    My favorite new discovery is Chenin Blanc ๐Ÿ™‚
    And I’m not kidding either!

  • chenin

    Gary,

    What a shame you have to answer thousands of emails, and I pity
    you because I couldn’t even think of doing that.
    I won’t send you an email.

    PEOPLE !!! Instead of sending emails, post it here in the comments or
    the forums. Give a guy a break.

    My favorite new discovery is Chenin Blanc ๐Ÿ™‚
    And I’m not kidding either!

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