EP 317 The Pinot Noir Episode

Gary Vaynerchuk explores some Pinot Noir’s from different parts of the world.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Castle Rock Pinot Noir SonomaSonoma Pinot Noir
2006 Coopers Creek Pinot NoirNew Zealand Pinot Noir
2005 Ghisolfi PinayLanghe
2004 Meyer Nakel Pinot Noir AhrGerman Red Wine

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Have had Castle Rock Zin.. not had much luck with Pinot's ouside of France or West Coast. QOTD-It is what is it. http://www.winelx.com

Tags: German, Langhe, New Zealand, Pinot Noir, red, review, Sonoma, Video, wine, wines

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  • SteveW

    Great Episode, can’t wait to watch Ellen.
    QOTD: I’m mad at Oregon Pinot’s because the quality of these wines has not kept up their rapidly increasing prices. Back in the 90’s I use to drink alot of Oregon Pinot’s but now I drink mostly California (Love Sea Smoke) and New Zealand Pinot’s.

  • SteveW

    Great Episode, can’t wait to watch Ellen.
    QOTD: I’m mad at Oregon Pinot’s because the quality of these wines has not kept up their rapidly increasing prices. Back in the 90’s I use to drink alot of Oregon Pinot’s but now I drink mostly California (Love Sea Smoke) and New Zealand Pinot’s.

  • Pastafari Pirate

    QOTD: naaah, not mad; indifferent. Every Pinot Noir I’ve ever had (except for 1 awesome Burgundy) has underwhelmed me. I generally don’t even bother with Pinots anymore, because they just never seem to have the ‘OOMPH’ that I like in a red. Sort of like the tall Scandanavian blondes that all the other guys just drool over, but don’t do anything for me. Blondes? Whatever. Give me a saucy fiery little Rioja or a sassy spunky Ribera del Duero or a feisty Sangiovese. Yeah, I don’t want a silky wine with a smooth finish. I want a paisano wine who will dance the Lambada with me, baby!

  • Pastafari Pirate

    QOTD: naaah, not mad; indifferent. Every Pinot Noir I’ve ever had (except for 1 awesome Burgundy) has underwhelmed me. I generally don’t even bother with Pinots anymore, because they just never seem to have the ‘OOMPH’ that I like in a red. Sort of like the tall Scandanavian blondes that all the other guys just drool over, but don’t do anything for me. Blondes? Whatever. Give me a saucy fiery little Rioja or a sassy spunky Ribera del Duero or a feisty Sangiovese. Yeah, I don’t want a silky wine with a smooth finish. I want a paisano wine who will dance the Lambada with me, baby!

  • Yup, Gary, I AM mad at Pinot Noir … I used to spend less on amazing Burgundies than I have to spend on more local Pinot Noir, and it is rarely worth it! When it is worth the price, it is REALLY worth it, but I’m sick and tired of spending $25-$40 on mediocre Pinot Noir. Yeah I’m mad … pissed! But hey, whatchagunnadoo!

  • Yup, Gary, I AM mad at Pinot Noir … I used to spend less on amazing Burgundies than I have to spend on more local Pinot Noir, and it is rarely worth it! When it is worth the price, it is REALLY worth it, but I’m sick and tired of spending $25-$40 on mediocre Pinot Noir. Yeah I’m mad … pissed! But hey, whatchagunnadoo!

  • Pastafari Pirate

    oops, almost forgot…………. Caw! Caw! Caw! Caw! Caw! Caw!

  • Pastafari Pirate

    oops, almost forgot…………. Caw! Caw! Caw! Caw! Caw! Caw!

  • Scott S

    Gary, Thanks for this Question of the Day. I love the “Holy Grail” Pinot Noir. I am sad that a great varietal has been caught up in a crappy trend. This so shall pass. When the Benedictine Monks began to pain stakingly document their vineyards in what in now know as Burgunday they were not focused on as passing trend, however due the their passion they produced an unwavering Ledgend. Lets all take a bow in the name of the “Holy Grail”!!!!!!! Pinot is pure Class!!!!

  • Scott S

    Gary, Thanks for this Question of the Day. I love the “Holy Grail” Pinot Noir. I am sad that a great varietal has been caught up in a crappy trend. This so shall pass. When the Benedictine Monks began to pain stakingly document their vineyards in what in now know as Burgunday they were not focused on as passing trend, however due the their passion they produced an unwavering Ledgend. Lets all take a bow in the name of the “Holy Grail”!!!!!!! Pinot is pure Class!!!!

  • Scott S

    Whoops sorry , typo—- Burgundy

  • Scott S

    Whoops sorry , typo—- Burgundy

  • Subby

    Ok, so you whine about lurkers not leaving their $.02 But what have I got to add? I’ve been watching for about a month, I’m 15, I can’t even taste wine, I’ve no opinion on how these all these wines taste, or smell, or cost, or their reputations. Nothin’ doing. Of course, that doesn’t mean I don’t find the shows entertaining or the entire concept of wines and wine tasting intriguing. So, seriously, are you going to shove me, and people like me under the category of unresponsive, annoying lurker? If so, hey, give us something to comment on.

    P.S. Yeah, I’ve seen the building your palette episode.

  • Subby

    Ok, so you whine about lurkers not leaving their $.02 But what have I got to add? I’ve been watching for about a month, I’m 15, I can’t even taste wine, I’ve no opinion on how these all these wines taste, or smell, or cost, or their reputations. Nothin’ doing. Of course, that doesn’t mean I don’t find the shows entertaining or the entire concept of wines and wine tasting intriguing. So, seriously, are you going to shove me, and people like me under the category of unresponsive, annoying lurker? If so, hey, give us something to comment on.

    P.S. Yeah, I’ve seen the building your palette episode.

  • jcbphd

    Enjoy your time with Ellen tomorrow, GV. All of this talk of sod is giving me flashbacks of my excessive sod-laying experiences this past weekend. That is some hard work!

    QOTD: How can I be made at PN, when I love it? Sure I wish it were cheaper, more consistent, and easier to figure out which ones will knock my socks off, but that is also part of what draws me to PN. The mystery and the struggle make me crave it all the more. And when I do discover a PN that blows me away (like the Du Mol or Belle Glos) it makes me all giddy inside.

  • jcbphd

    Enjoy your time with Ellen tomorrow, GV. All of this talk of sod is giving me flashbacks of my excessive sod-laying experiences this past weekend. That is some hard work!

    QOTD: How can I be made at PN, when I love it? Sure I wish it were cheaper, more consistent, and easier to figure out which ones will knock my socks off, but that is also part of what draws me to PN. The mystery and the struggle make me crave it all the more. And when I do discover a PN that blows me away (like the Du Mol or Belle Glos) it makes me all giddy inside.

  • QOTD: I am in love with Pinot Noir, now and forever.

  • QOTD: I am in love with Pinot Noir, now and forever.

  • Kid Winomite

    Sipping on my first P N as we speak.

    Mirassou P N for 8 bones and my untrained palet says it rocks so I ain’t mad

  • Kid Winomite

    Sipping on my first P N as we speak.

    Mirassou P N for 8 bones and my untrained palet says it rocks so I ain’t mad

  • laposte

    QOTD:
    Not mad at Pinot but somewhat at consumers who can be so easily manipulated by Hollywood.

  • laposte

    QOTD:
    Not mad at Pinot but somewhat at consumers who can be so easily manipulated by Hollywood.

  • Mad. Yes. A little. Many people fail to appreciate the multiplicity of the Noir’s character. Some decry the Syrah-like heavyweight Noir from Cali as un-Pinot Noir or un-Burgundy, or decry Burgundy as too “earthy”, “austere”, or “light”, instead of appreciating how the Noir morphs from place to place (like Riesling) creating a diverse and beautiful population of unique individuals.

  • Mad. Yes. A little. Many people fail to appreciate the multiplicity of the Noir’s character. Some decry the Syrah-like heavyweight Noir from Cali as un-Pinot Noir or un-Burgundy, or decry Burgundy as too “earthy”, “austere”, or “light”, instead of appreciating how the Noir morphs from place to place (like Riesling) creating a diverse and beautiful population of unique individuals.

  • Mad. Yes. A little. Many people fail to appreciate the multiplicity of the Noir’s character. Some decry the Syrah-like heavyweight Noir from Cali as un-Pinot Noir or un-Burgundy, or decry Burgundy as too “earthy”, “austere”, or “light”, instead of appreciating how the Noir morphs from place to place (like Riesling) creating a diverse and beautiful population of unique individuals. The Noir exposes our palate and our (ever-changing) style preferences, and then those preferences expose things like our desire for status, respect, (believed) intelligence, among others.

  • Mad. Yes. A little. Many people fail to appreciate the multiplicity of the Noir’s character. Some decry the Syrah-like heavyweight Noir from Cali as un-Pinot Noir or un-Burgundy, or decry Burgundy as too “earthy”, “austere”, or “light”, instead of appreciating how the Noir morphs from place to place (like Riesling) creating a diverse and beautiful population of unique individuals. The Noir exposes our palate and our (ever-changing) style preferences, and then those preferences expose things like our desire for status, respect, (believed) intelligence, among others.

  • Have to start by saying this is the first time i have ever been moved to leave a comment in a forum. What is happening with wltv and the ethos behind it is truly spectacular.
    QOTD: Can never be mad with a grape that can show such a varitey of flavours, style and all round fun to be had. Every different bottle will offer a change to what has been experienced b4. Sideways brought a lot of people to wine which can only be a good thing, shame its such a hard job now to get people to try a merlot. More for us I guess
    Could not stay a lurker for long
    Bringing the thunder from the UK baby
    The Greek

  • Have to start by saying this is the first time i have ever been moved to leave a comment in a forum. What is happening with wltv and the ethos behind it is truly spectacular.
    QOTD: Can never be mad with a grape that can show such a varitey of flavours, style and all round fun to be had. Every different bottle will offer a change to what has been experienced b4. Sideways brought a lot of people to wine which can only be a good thing, shame its such a hard job now to get people to try a merlot. More for us I guess
    Could not stay a lurker for long
    Bringing the thunder from the UK baby
    The Greek

  • jimbo rambo

    I’m only mad because they left out this line in the movie:
    “Oregon pinot is crap. Don’t drink it. It’s over priced unsophisticated swill.”

    I truly miss the days when I was the only person on the Pinot isle.

  • jimbo rambo

    I’m only mad because they left out this line in the movie:
    “Oregon pinot is crap. Don’t drink it. It’s over priced unsophisticated swill.”

    I truly miss the days when I was the only person on the Pinot isle.

  • J Crazy

    QOTD: J Crazy not mad. Not mad at Pinot. Not mad at Noir. J Crazy mad at 1996 Condado De HAZA. Smell like poo. Taste like s*&^.

  • J Crazy

    QOTD: J Crazy not mad. Not mad at Pinot. Not mad at Noir. J Crazy mad at 1996 Condado De HAZA. Smell like poo. Taste like s*&^.

  • lenny

    Ok I give up. What movie made Point’s so popular??? I am not a movie buff, so I am clueless. I prefer books most of the time.

  • lenny

    Ok I give up. What movie made Point’s so popular??? I am not a movie buff, so I am clueless. I prefer books most of the time.

  • winelover4ever

    Pinots are really getting out of hands now a days. A little bit mad about the rocketing prices lately, yes I am. The fact is that is hard to find a good and enjoyable pinot for under $30. I’m more concentrated in US pinots since I see producers are focusing in making better and better pinots. This wine is not meant to last for decades, and yes they mature a little in the bottle but not for so long. In other words you can not take advantage of long cellaring, however prices in the US market go up by the days. I have had exceptional pinots from Pisoni, Rochiolli, Littorai, William seylem, Kosta Browne, Siduri…. but look up the prices….. waoooo some of them are sold like a fine bourdeaux…… simply ridiculous ….. why ??? they simply don’t justify the price….The bad side of this…. I love pinots….So I have to keep searching and learning frorm guys like Gary before I get broken….. Jejejeje

  • winelover4ever

    Pinots are really getting out of hands now a days. A little bit mad about the rocketing prices lately, yes I am. The fact is that is hard to find a good and enjoyable pinot for under $30. I’m more concentrated in US pinots since I see producers are focusing in making better and better pinots. This wine is not meant to last for decades, and yes they mature a little in the bottle but not for so long. In other words you can not take advantage of long cellaring, however prices in the US market go up by the days. I have had exceptional pinots from Pisoni, Rochiolli, Littorai, William seylem, Kosta Browne, Siduri…. but look up the prices….. waoooo some of them are sold like a fine bourdeaux…… simply ridiculous ….. why ??? they simply don’t justify the price….The bad side of this…. I love pinots….So I have to keep searching and learning frorm guys like Gary before I get broken….. Jejejeje

  • flippy

    QOTD: Not mad at Pinot, no. Not really even mad at people who jumped on the Pinot bandwagon. When I worked in a local wine shop and the craze began, I recommended many Pinot Noirs in a variety of price ranges, being sure to explain the lighter body, earthier, complex flavours, etc. Most people still didn’t get it, or just didn’t like it.

    Hope Ellen is/was (?) fantastic!

  • flippy

    QOTD: Not mad at Pinot, no. Not really even mad at people who jumped on the Pinot bandwagon. When I worked in a local wine shop and the craze began, I recommended many Pinot Noirs in a variety of price ranges, being sure to explain the lighter body, earthier, complex flavours, etc. Most people still didn’t get it, or just didn’t like it.

    Hope Ellen is/was (?) fantastic!

  • Matt the Lurker

    QOTD – not a day goes by that I don’t give my Pinots a beating. Damn Pinot! You were all adopted! Now got to bed without dessert.

  • wannaBconnoisseur

    Yes, a little mad at pinot, gotten so pricey for everyday that I find myself buying a lot less of it.

  • Matt the Lurker

    QOTD – not a day goes by that I don’t give my Pinots a beating. Damn Pinot! You were all adopted! Now got to bed without dessert.

  • wannaBconnoisseur

    Yes, a little mad at pinot, gotten so pricey for everyday that I find myself buying a lot less of it.

  • Amar K.

    QOTD: I’ve never really had pinot noir, so I suppose I can’t be mad at it yet.

  • winelover4ever

    Lenny the movie to watch is “Sideways”…… It’s not the greatest movie…. but sure enjoyable ..specially if you watch it drinking some pinot noir…..lol

  • Amar K.

    QOTD: I’ve never really had pinot noir, so I suppose I can’t be mad at it yet.

  • winelover4ever

    Lenny the movie to watch is “Sideways”…… It’s not the greatest movie…. but sure enjoyable ..specially if you watch it drinking some pinot noir…..lol

  • leatherpalate

    no i love pinot.

  • leatherpalate

    no i love pinot.

  • Tgatesman

    QOTD: I would have to say that I’m a little upset with Pinot noir, but can you really be upset with it…it’s not its fault it is so good!

  • Tgatesman

    QOTD: I would have to say that I’m a little upset with Pinot noir, but can you really be upset with it…it’s not its fault it is so good!

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