EP 367 Box Wine Tasting

Can box wine be good? That is a question that maybe taking a very interesting spin in a new direction, as more and more under 25 year old wine drinkers enter the wine market wineries are thinking of new ways to brand to that demo and today Gary Vaynerchuk tastes some of the newer efforts in the market.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Bandit Pinot Grigio
2006 Bota Box Chadonnay

2004 Cuvee de Pena
2005 Thirsty Lizard Shiraz

Links mentioned in todays episode.

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John__J

I'm open to wines in a box, although I feel dubious about them and have never bought one and don't have any plans to. I'm definitely not into wines in a can however, I know Coppola's even doing one of those. I tasted a cuvee de pena rose in a bottle, it wasn't awful for the $2 or 3.99 it cost wholesale.

Tags: Box, chardonnay, pinot grigio, red, review, shiraz, Video, white, wine, wines

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  • Rani Haykal

    Great Show!!!

    QOTD: Best Steak: Filet Mignon from Pappas Bros. Steakhouse
    Worst Steak: New York Strip cooked by a friend. Actully, thinking about it now that steak was horrendous….absolutely terrible.

    –Rani H

  • Nick P

    Best-Capital Grill in Orlando FL.
    Worst-My friends house in New Jersey.

  • You will not believe it but the best Steak I’ve ever had was in a small town just 101 in central California. A restaurant called Twin Oaks Restaurant 645 Bell St. Los Alamos, CA 93440. Crazy good steak. The whole area of San Ynez has many places with wonderful to die for steaks another in the Famous Red Barn. For me though, Twin Oaks Restaurant is it.

    It’s funny all the vineyards in the central coast San Ynez and Santa Barbara area, have you done a show on this area of California?

    I can’t remember the place where I had some really bad steak but I do remember it being gray and yuck!

    Great Show! Thanks!
    Chad

  • Marshall

    QOTD: I hate steaks, except maybe a fillet minon.

  • QoTD

    Best steak: without hesitation, Matthew’s in San Marco, Jacksonville, FL
    Worst steak: hopefully hubby’s not going to see this (sorry sweetie!), but it was one cooked by him. BUT, I will say that the one at Matthew’s was so superior that anyone else’s pales in comparison. (how’s that for diplomacy?)

  • Neil

    QOTD – Best Steak: Prather’s Meats at thge SF Ferry Building. Good stuff. Worst steak: Tad’s Steak House in SF.

  • You will not believe it but the best Steak I’ve ever had was in a small town just 101 in central California. A restaurant called Twin Oaks Restaurant 645 Bell St. Los Alamos, CA 93440. Crazy good steak. The whole area of San Ynez has many places with wonderful to die for steaks another in the Famous Red Barn. For me though, Twin Oaks Restaurant is it.

    It’s funny all the vineyards in the central coast San Ynez and Santa Barbara area, have you done a show on this area of California?

    I can’t remember the place where I had some really bad steak but I do remember it being gray and yuck!

    Great Show! Thanks!
    Chad

  • Marshall

    QOTD: I hate steaks, except maybe a fillet minon.

  • QoTD

    Best steak: without hesitation, Matthew’s in San Marco, Jacksonville, FL
    Worst steak: hopefully hubby’s not going to see this (sorry sweetie!), but it was one cooked by him. BUT, I will say that the one at Matthew’s was so superior that anyone else’s pales in comparison. (how’s that for diplomacy?)

  • Neil

    QOTD – Best Steak: Prather’s Meats at thge SF Ferry Building. Good stuff. Worst steak: Tad’s Steak House in SF.

  • My first was my best! Grandparents took me out to a real restaurant when I was about 8 yoa in 1969.

  • djs

    QOTD: Best steak was a New York Strip for lunch at Ruth’s Chris twenty years ago with my Mom. Worst was a vile piece of something at my in-laws house recently.

  • QOTD: Best steak would have to be a filet mignon from Ruth’s Chris. Worst steak would be all the london broil my dad used to cook when I was a kid, just terrible.

  • Denise W

    The Bandit pinot grigio surprised me. I’ll have to try that sometime soon.

    The best steak I’ve ever had was a filet at Morton’s. Melt-in-my-mouth deliciousness.

    The worst was many Christmases ago when my FIL severely over-grilled steaks for dinner. They were beef jerky tough. I choked down as much as I could to be polite. And, worst of all, we didn’t have wine to wash it down with! The FIL has since passed on, and I’d give a million Morton’s filets for one more beef jerky with him.

  • amgryger

    QOTD: Best Steak: Bistecca alla fiorentina in Florence, Italy. Don’t remember the name of the restaurant.

    Worst: One that I had a hand in preparing.

    Sorry, still not convinced about box wine. Maybe I am overly cynical, but I avoid wine that is heavily marketed.

    Furthermore, as a 20-something year old, I would like to say that all too often I feel like the wine industry talks down to me. I am not a “demographic to be branded to.” I am an individual who is very comfortable living life on my own terms and making my own decisions as to what I value. Maybe I am a little bit elitist, but I think that too-much anti-elitism breeds mediocrity and sameness, which, if you think about, makes life pretty boring.

  • My first was my best! Grandparents took me out to a real restaurant when I was about 8 yoa in 1969.

  • djs

    QOTD: Best steak was a New York Strip for lunch at Ruth’s Chris twenty years ago with my Mom. Worst was a vile piece of something at my in-laws house recently.

  • QOTD: Best steak would have to be a filet mignon from Ruth’s Chris. Worst steak would be all the london broil my dad used to cook when I was a kid, just terrible.

  • Denise W

    The Bandit pinot grigio surprised me. I’ll have to try that sometime soon.

    The best steak I’ve ever had was a filet at Morton’s. Melt-in-my-mouth deliciousness.

    The worst was many Christmases ago when my FIL severely over-grilled steaks for dinner. They were beef jerky tough. I choked down as much as I could to be polite. And, worst of all, we didn’t have wine to wash it down with! The FIL has since passed on, and I’d give a million Morton’s filets for one more beef jerky with him.

  • amgryger

    QOTD: Best Steak: Bistecca alla fiorentina in Florence, Italy. Don’t remember the name of the restaurant.

    Worst: One that I had a hand in preparing.

    Sorry, still not convinced about box wine. Maybe I am overly cynical, but I avoid wine that is heavily marketed.

    Furthermore, as a 20-something year old, I would like to say that all too often I feel like the wine industry talks down to me. I am not a “demographic to be branded to.” I am an individual who is very comfortable living life on my own terms and making my own decisions as to what I value. Maybe I am a little bit elitist, but I think that too-much anti-elitism breeds mediocrity and sameness, which, if you think about, makes life pretty boring.

  • Will

    In college, we used to call box wine “box of game” because of the profound impact drinking a box of it had on one’s ability to talk game to the opposite sex. And by profound, I mean terribly negative.

    QOTD: Best = dad’s BBQ. Love the filet, rib eye, or marinated flank steak.
    Worst = Ruth’s Chris in Bellevue, WA.

  • Peter Lugers……steak for two. Nuff said?

  • 19namath69

    Best Steak – Peter Luger’s about 12 years ago.
    Worst Steak – the day I got home and my wife said we need a new grill because the old one caught fire cooking the steaks for dinner.

  • Will

    In college, we used to call box wine “box of game” because of the profound impact drinking a box of it had on one’s ability to talk game to the opposite sex. And by profound, I mean terribly negative.

    QOTD: Best = dad’s BBQ. Love the filet, rib eye, or marinated flank steak.
    Worst = Ruth’s Chris in Bellevue, WA.

  • Peter Lugers……steak for two. Nuff said?

  • 19namath69

    Best Steak – Peter Luger’s about 12 years ago.
    Worst Steak – the day I got home and my wife said we need a new grill because the old one caught fire cooking the steaks for dinner.

  • Sarah L

    QOTD: my favorite steak is a ribeye cooked on the rare side of medium rare over a charcoal fire with a little smoldering wood chips. The worst steak I’ve ever had was overcooked.

  • Sarah L

    QOTD: my favorite steak is a ribeye cooked on the rare side of medium rare over a charcoal fire with a little smoldering wood chips. The worst steak I’ve ever had was overcooked.

  • Jprva

    QOTD: best steak: from, someplace in Minneapolis, forget the name.

    Worst: Anything served rare.

  • caleb

    QOTD: Best – Buffalo fillet I grilled myself, a little salt, barely seared on both sides.

    Worst – A steak I had at a restaurant in Bodrum, my napkin had more flavor.

  • Tom T.

    No wristband today?
    QOTD…..best steak was a Buffalo steak out in Wyoming, worst was something that resembled a steak at
    Ponderosa. There are tons of other really good ones too. The one in Wyoming sticks out because it was the first time I tried Buffalo meat.

  • Jprva

    QOTD: best steak: from, someplace in Minneapolis, forget the name.

    Worst: Anything served rare.

  • caleb

    QOTD: Best – Buffalo fillet I grilled myself, a little salt, barely seared on both sides.

    Worst – A steak I had at a restaurant in Bodrum, my napkin had more flavor.

  • Tom T.

    No wristband today?
    QOTD…..best steak was a Buffalo steak out in Wyoming, worst was something that resembled a steak at
    Ponderosa. There are tons of other really good ones too. The one in Wyoming sticks out because it was the first time I tried Buffalo meat.

  • Chuck

    Worst steak – Every steak night at the college cafeteria. To this day I’m not convinced it was really beef. And we all clamored for more because hey, it’s steak…

    Best steak – Some random restaurant at the banhof in Berlin. Topped with shallots and some mystery light sauce washed down with a super dark beer that poured like syrup. Don’t know what they did, but I’ve never found an equal.

    GV, $17 shipping for the xmas pack? Ouch. Woulda pulled the trigger but my cheeks clenched up so tight when I saw that I just couldn’t. Yeah, those cheeks. Which leads me to my challenge for you. I’ve been drinking wine for a few years now and while I’m enjoying the exploration, I’m too cheap to try out things over a certain price point without some assurance of value. Not my fault, it’s genetic on both sides of the family. We invented copper wire when two of us wouldn’t let go of the same penny. Anyway, the challenge. Pick 3 wines around $50 that will convince us skinflints (’cause I know I’m not alone) to splurge every once in a while.

    Love the show.

  • Junichi Fujita

    Great show Gary. The best steak I had was a Kobe beef steak I had with my family in Tokyo. The worst was the steak from the dorm cafeteria. It was flavorless, overcooked, hard, just one depressing lump of meat.

  • Chuck

    Worst steak – Every steak night at the college cafeteria. To this day I’m not convinced it was really beef. And we all clamored for more because hey, it’s steak…

    Best steak – Some random restaurant at the banhof in Berlin. Topped with shallots and some mystery light sauce washed down with a super dark beer that poured like syrup. Don’t know what they did, but I’ve never found an equal.

    GV, $17 shipping for the xmas pack? Ouch. Woulda pulled the trigger but my cheeks clenched up so tight when I saw that I just couldn’t. Yeah, those cheeks. Which leads me to my challenge for you. I’ve been drinking wine for a few years now and while I’m enjoying the exploration, I’m too cheap to try out things over a certain price point without some assurance of value. Not my fault, it’s genetic on both sides of the family. We invented copper wire when two of us wouldn’t let go of the same penny. Anyway, the challenge. Pick 3 wines around $50 that will convince us skinflints (’cause I know I’m not alone) to splurge every once in a while.

    Love the show.

  • Junichi Fujita

    Great show Gary. The best steak I had was a Kobe beef steak I had with my family in Tokyo. The worst was the steak from the dorm cafeteria. It was flavorless, overcooked, hard, just one depressing lump of meat.

  • Gary Hartmann

    QOTD: Best steak ever was a cut of springbok I had at Belthazar wine bar (which claims to be the world’s largest by-the-glass wine bar) in Cape Town, South Africa. (Had it with a glass of 2003 Kanonkop Pinotage – WOW! what a great wine!) Can’t remember the worst for sure. The worst recently was when I over cooked one on the grill a year and a half ago.

  • Hugh

    QOTD: Best…hmmm a tie….Match Steakhouse in Vegas….Peter Luger’s in Brooklyn
    Worst- well-done slab of (supposed) steak at summer camp, circa 1978

  • Gary Hartmann

    QOTD: Best steak ever was a cut of springbok I had at Belthazar wine bar (which claims to be the world’s largest by-the-glass wine bar) in Cape Town, South Africa. (Had it with a glass of 2003 Kanonkop Pinotage – WOW! what a great wine!) Can’t remember the worst for sure. The worst recently was when I over cooked one on the grill a year and a half ago.

  • Hugh

    QOTD: Best…hmmm a tie….Match Steakhouse in Vegas….Peter Luger’s in Brooklyn
    Worst- well-done slab of (supposed) steak at summer camp, circa 1978

  • Jon

    Bd showing for the boxed wine…

    Worst: Homemade in the oven, after it started to cook on the BBQ and I ran out of propane.

    Best: Prime Steakhouse Las Vegas

  • bh

    best steak was this porterhouse i had at ten steak in providence. it was ridiculous. worst steak… you know those ones people who can’t cook make in a pan, and it comes out all grey and cooked to death? let’s just say i’ve got relatives…

    cool episode… i’d like to try the sneakers wine.

  • Jon

    Bd showing for the boxed wine…

    Worst: Homemade in the oven, after it started to cook on the BBQ and I ran out of propane.

    Best: Prime Steakhouse Las Vegas

  • bh

    best steak was this porterhouse i had at ten steak in providence. it was ridiculous. worst steak… you know those ones people who can’t cook make in a pan, and it comes out all grey and cooked to death? let’s just say i’ve got relatives…

    cool episode… i’d like to try the sneakers wine.

  • Awsome show! I’m not scared to try the boxed wine….but it might take a little while because there so much good wine and life is so short.

    Best Steak: At Duke’s in Kuaui on my honeymoon, bad wine, but dang that was awsome steak, can’t remember the cut.

    Worst steak: A flank steak cooked by me on my little mini-BBQ, I always overcook the meat on that thing, until I got my big Weber I could never not over-cook the meat. Now I only overcook the meat about 75% of the time.

  • Awsome show! I’m not scared to try the boxed wine….but it might take a little while because there so much good wine and life is so short.

    Best Steak: At Duke’s in Kuaui on my honeymoon, bad wine, but dang that was awsome steak, can’t remember the cut.

    Worst steak: A flank steak cooked by me on my little mini-BBQ, I always overcook the meat on that thing, until I got my big Weber I could never not over-cook the meat. Now I only overcook the meat about 75% of the time.

  • Worst steak was the time my best friend marinated a ton deer steaks in italian dressing. We had played basketball in the snow for about 6hrs that day and then grilled up af ew dozen small steaks. Somehow I got super sick first and then made his entire family sick. i couldn’t touch deer meet or italian dressing for two years.

    Best steak would be t-bones grilled outside in colorado on a perfect day with the mountains in the background.

  • Andy

    Best steak, Ribeye on the grill at a “grill n’ ill” with my friends. Worst, the 6th sizzler I took down in a sitting at Ponderosa in high school.

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