EP 406 Cabernet Franc From Different Places

Gary tastes 3 very serious Cabernet Franc wines 2 from Loire valley and one from California.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Amirault Bourguiel La CoudrayeBourgueil
2004 Olek-mery Chinon Des TireauxChinon
2005 Larkin Cabernet FrancNapa Cabernet Franc

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Cab Franc is one of my favorites! Come visit VT soon!

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  • Wayne Y

    Gary,

    I have a few cases in the cellar of cab franc Loire Valley wines all 90-92 points rating. How much bottle age will be good for the 2005’s or is it a drink now deal?

    Thanks
    Wayne

  • The Original Marc

    QOTD: That episode really makes me want to pop my Bourguiel that I have right now. Hmm… I’ll consider it, and if not now, I will this weekend.

    I’m batting .500 so far in my lifetime for Loire Cab Franc (1 for 2). I can’t wait for the rubber match.

  • Wayne Y

    Gary,

    I have a few cases in the cellar of cab franc Loire Valley wines all 90-92 points rating. How much bottle age will be good for the 2005’s or is it a drink now deal?

    Thanks
    Wayne

  • Marshall

    QOTD:I live in Wisconsin and I’ve already tried the one Cabernet Franc that I can get a hold of. By the way I loved it! I wish I could buy more, but what are you gonna do.

  • Marshall

    QOTD:I live in Wisconsin and I’ve already tried the one Cabernet Franc that I can get a hold of. By the way I loved it! I wish I could buy more, but what are you gonna do.

  • brent

    Thanks for getting to two wines on my wishlist GV! Had the ’05 Mabileau St.-Nick-de-Bourgueil from ep. 175 this past weekend, and will most likely be opening up another bottle of La Noblaie Chiens-Chiens this coming weekend. Loving the values in Loire Reds!
    MONTREAL IS DOWN WITH THE GV!

  • brent

    Thanks for getting to two wines on my wishlist GV! Had the ’05 Mabileau St.-Nick-de-Bourgueil from ep. 175 this past weekend, and will most likely be opening up another bottle of La Noblaie Chiens-Chiens this coming weekend. Loving the values in Loire Reds!
    MONTREAL IS DOWN WITH THE GV!

  • Dr. G

    I’ve really enjoyed the old world style wines when I’ve been allowed to have them (other than my Dad who’s three states away, too many friends and family seem to prefer the fruit bombs), and your description of the first two were very intriguing. In fact . . .QOTD: in just a few moments I’m going to head out the door and down to one of the local wineshops to see what I can find.

  • Dr. G

    I’ve really enjoyed the old world style wines when I’ve been allowed to have them (other than my Dad who’s three states away, too many friends and family seem to prefer the fruit bombs), and your description of the first two were very intriguing. In fact . . .QOTD: in just a few moments I’m going to head out the door and down to one of the local wineshops to see what I can find.

  • kazu

    yes gary..

  • kazu

    yes gary..

  • KyleLikesTies

    WLTV was the best part of my otherwise somewhat crappy day … Cab
    franc is by *far* my favourite grape (I LOVE when it brings the
    Brussel sprouts, green pepper, mushrooms, and a
    damp-leaves-in-autumn-in-the-sun smell I smelt on a certain afternoon
    when wandering through the woods when I was young(er).), and it’s been
    WAY too long since I’ve popped a bottle. On the other hand, I’m
    super-sad because I don’t have any here … Guess what I’m doing
    tomorrow :~}

    QoTD: Absolutely! I promise to buy (and drink!!!) a cab franc
    (probably from Loire … have to see what I can find at a price point
    I can afford) … but I can’t promise I’ll wait until this
    weekend ;~}!

    Oh, I just watched _Sideways_ the other day … and noticed that he
    nothing good to say about cab franc … but worshipped his bottle of
    Cheval Blanc … Rather funny.

  • KyleLikesTies

    WLTV was the best part of my otherwise somewhat crappy day … Cab
    franc is by *far* my favourite grape (I LOVE when it brings the
    Brussel sprouts, green pepper, mushrooms, and a
    damp-leaves-in-autumn-in-the-sun smell I smelt on a certain afternoon
    when wandering through the woods when I was young(er).), and it’s been
    WAY too long since I’ve popped a bottle. On the other hand, I’m
    super-sad because I don’t have any here … Guess what I’m doing
    tomorrow :~}

    QoTD: Absolutely! I promise to buy (and drink!!!) a cab franc
    (probably from Loire … have to see what I can find at a price point
    I can afford) … but I can’t promise I’ll wait until this
    weekend ;~}!

    Oh, I just watched _Sideways_ the other day … and noticed that he
    nothing good to say about cab franc … but worshipped his bottle of
    Cheval Blanc … Rather funny.

  • Gary Dont be so apolagetic
    for telling it like it is on the larkin **

    Again’ another example of the puplic getting Dupped
    ( or should I say PARKED )as you expose the FARSE That these wine Gurus
    control with Thier scores and Outrageous controll over pricing $$

    Wine need’s Heroes
    Not Zeros

    GOOD WORK !

  • Gary Dont be so apolagetic
    for telling it like it is on the larkin **

    Again’ another example of the puplic getting Dupped
    ( or should I say PARKED )as you expose the FARSE That these wine Gurus
    control with Thier scores and Outrageous controll over pricing $$

    Wine need’s Heroes
    Not Zeros

    GOOD WORK !

  • Katherine

    QOTD: I’ll definitely go out and find one this week!

  • Katherine

    QOTD: I’ll definitely go out and find one this week!

  • Robert Dhu

    Could it be when you talk about the dirty vegetal smell it sounds like it might be the silo smell!

  • Robert Dhu

    Could it be when you talk about the dirty vegetal smell it sounds like it might be the silo smell!

  • Orville B

    Will try to find one here in the great wild Northern West.

    Might have better luck finding the Larkin though

    JB

  • Orville B

    Will try to find one here in the great wild Northern West.

    Might have better luck finding the Larkin though

    JB

  • Martin

    Yes I promise. Well, maybe next weekend. This weekend we’re going to a wedding – open bar!

  • Martin

    Yes I promise. Well, maybe next weekend. This weekend we’re going to a wedding – open bar!

  • John Farrin

    POTD: I have only had one bottle of Cabernet Franc in my life (2004 Domaine de la Noblaie Chinon â??Les Chiens-Chienâ??) and it was the most miserable wine experience of my life. I’m truly hoping that it was corked. I was sharing it with a great-grandma type and I was worried that I might have killed her. I poured 3/4 of the bottle down the drain. I have two more bottles of it and only YOU could get me to open another one of them. Seriously, I can’t imagine anyone who loves wine liking the way that first bottle smelled or tasted. Let you know Monday.

  • John Farrin

    POTD: I have only had one bottle of Cabernet Franc in my life (2004 Domaine de la Noblaie Chinon â??Les Chiens-Chienâ??) and it was the most miserable wine experience of my life. I’m truly hoping that it was corked. I was sharing it with a great-grandma type and I was worried that I might have killed her. I poured 3/4 of the bottle down the drain. I have two more bottles of it and only YOU could get me to open another one of them. Seriously, I can’t imagine anyone who loves wine liking the way that first bottle smelled or tasted. Let you know Monday.

  • Shadowbird

    QOTD: No promises. It’s out of my price range.

  • Shadowbird

    QOTD: No promises. It’s out of my price range.

  • Kristen

    GV, you are totally a Picture Painter- every single glass of wine you taste is painted with a description! That’s why the Vayner Nation loves to hear your descriptions.

    QOTD: Well twist my arm GV…I guess I’ll go out and find one this weekend. Some of the chinons that I’ve had in the past were too acidic for me, but maybe I’ll find one that is friends with my PAL.

  • Kristen

    GV, you are totally a Picture Painter- every single glass of wine you taste is painted with a description! That’s why the Vayner Nation loves to hear your descriptions.

    QOTD: Well twist my arm GV…I guess I’ll go out and find one this weekend. Some of the chinons that I’ve had in the past were too acidic for me, but maybe I’ll find one that is friends with my PAL.

  • QOTD: No promise here. We are heading to Walla Walla this weekend, where we may very well taste a Cab Franc, but it won’t be Loire. We’ll hit it soon…..

  • QOTD: No promise here. We are heading to Walla Walla this weekend, where we may very well taste a Cab Franc, but it won’t be Loire. We’ll hit it soon…..

  • I will definitely be looking for either of the first two, sounds very intriguing. Might be really difficult though thanks to Kentucky law not allowing me to get wine shipped to me.. 🙁

  • Withnail

    QOTD: No. I can’t make that promise this week. But I have noted it for future buying reference.
    I hope you didn’t lose a friend today. (Sean.)
    Bring back the Butter Bandit!

  • I will definitely be looking for either of the first two, sounds very intriguing. Might be really difficult though thanks to Kentucky law not allowing me to get wine shipped to me.. 🙁

  • Withnail

    QOTD: No. I can’t make that promise this week. But I have noted it for future buying reference.
    I hope you didn’t lose a friend today. (Sean.)
    Bring back the Butter Bandit!

  • John Z

    Awesome episode, great choice for a varietal that seems very underrated.

    I’m planting some Cab Franc vines in my backyard this spring!

  • John Z

    Awesome episode, great choice for a varietal that seems very underrated.

    I’m planting some Cab Franc vines in my backyard this spring!

  • While I can’t promise I will drink one this week, I regularly drink Chinon and have 3 in my wine fridge right now. I used to hate-hate-hate Cab Franc until I tried Chinon and not only do I love Loire reds now, I am a much bigger fan of new world Cab Franc as a result, such as the decent versions made in Virginia. I have been disappointed with most the Cali versions I have tried, however. Too overdone.

    By the way guys, it is spelled BourguEIL, you have the I and the E reversed in the film and on the wine links list. 🙂

  • While I can’t promise I will drink one this week, I regularly drink Chinon and have 3 in my wine fridge right now. I used to hate-hate-hate Cab Franc until I tried Chinon and not only do I love Loire reds now, I am a much bigger fan of new world Cab Franc as a result, such as the decent versions made in Virginia. I have been disappointed with most the Cali versions I have tried, however. Too overdone.

    By the way guys, it is spelled BourguEIL, you have the I and the E reversed in the film and on the wine links list. 🙂

  • Tommy Vernieri

    I don’t know GV, we have one Loire Cab Franc in the house–the Domaine de la Noblaie Les Chiens-Chiens. Neither of us “got it” on the first bottle we had a few months ago so we’re planning on holding on to that one until next year.

    The Barboursville (Virginia) 2002 CF didn’t do much for us. We loved the Lang & Reed (California) 2002 CF (twice), green bell pepper and jalapeño all day long.

    We didn’t plan on buying any more wine this month but our Total Wine (the only local place with online inventory) has a few Cab Francs for $10-$15. Any of these jump out at you?
    Domaine Semellerie Chinon and three from Sauvion: Cabernet D’Anjou (70% CF, 30% CS), Les Roches Cachees, and Saumur Champigny.

  • Tommy Vernieri

    I don’t know GV, we have one Loire Cab Franc in the house–the Domaine de la Noblaie Les Chiens-Chiens. Neither of us “got it” on the first bottle we had a few months ago so we’re planning on holding on to that one until next year.

    The Barboursville (Virginia) 2002 CF didn’t do much for us. We loved the Lang & Reed (California) 2002 CF (twice), green bell pepper and jalapeño all day long.

    We didn’t plan on buying any more wine this month but our Total Wine (the only local place with online inventory) has a few Cab Francs for $10-$15. Any of these jump out at you?
    Domaine Semellerie Chinon and three from Sauvion: Cabernet D’Anjou (70% CF, 30% CS), Les Roches Cachees, and Saumur Champigny.

  • Little Jonny H

    Lovin’ the old world. I can’t say I’ve had a loire valley red, maybe I’ll splurge this weekend…

    QOTD: One day when the dollar gets straightened up, or I start makin’ more dough I’ll be able to afford a loire valley red for everyday type drinking 😉

  • t_moderne

    No promises from me. I have had Chinon and wondered why i did. Did not enjoy the funky barnyard. tasted like the feet of the old dude who stomped on the grapes. I think that old world flavor comes from funky old cellars and funky old barrels and is not a sign of terroir.
    But hey, that’s my “pal” talking. And I do not believe GV reads all the comments.

  • Little Jonny H

    Lovin’ the old world. I can’t say I’ve had a loire valley red, maybe I’ll splurge this weekend…

    QOTD: One day when the dollar gets straightened up, or I start makin’ more dough I’ll be able to afford a loire valley red for everyday type drinking 😉

  • t_moderne

    No promises from me. I have had Chinon and wondered why i did. Did not enjoy the funky barnyard. tasted like the feet of the old dude who stomped on the grapes. I think that old world flavor comes from funky old cellars and funky old barrels and is not a sign of terroir.
    But hey, that’s my “pal” talking. And I do not believe GV reads all the comments.

  • Haven’t got my Cab Franc yet but already on top of it GV. I absolutely positively love and adore the living daylights out of Loire Valley Cab Francs. Next time go tri-force on our asses and bring an Anjou onboard. Long live the vegetable funked de funky funk!

    Terrance ‘the uni man from Kobe’

  • Haven’t got my Cab Franc yet but already on top of it GV. I absolutely positively love and adore the living daylights out of Loire Valley Cab Francs. Next time go tri-force on our asses and bring an Anjou onboard. Long live the vegetable funked de funky funk!

    Terrance ‘the uni man from Kobe’

  • Mark Fitzpatrick

    Gary,

    AWESOME show! You had me reaching through the screen practically to grab the Bourgueil and Chinon. And of course, Sold Out. But that’s a good thing…And tellin’ Mom, “That’s not how I roll,” on the dirt bomb veggies out the market. Classic my friend.

    Fitz

  • Mark Fitzpatrick

    Gary,

    AWESOME show! You had me reaching through the screen practically to grab the Bourgueil and Chinon. And of course, Sold Out. But that’s a good thing…And tellin’ Mom, “That’s not how I roll,” on the dirt bomb veggies out the market. Classic my friend.

    Fitz

  • Ben F

    GV I would totally seek out one of the first two wines but I just Checked the PLCB’s website and non are availble in my area… I wish we had a wine Library…

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