EP 414 2004 Vintage Bordeaux, A Timing Thing

We are going with Intense Friday instead of laid back Friday because I think there is a real opportunity to learn and exploit a huge oppertunity and I want to make sure all the Vayniacs out there have a chance to score!

Wines tasted in this episode:

2004 Chateau Clos De L’oratoireSt Emilion
2004 Chateau Haut BrissonSt Emilion
2004 Clos Les LunellesOther Red Bordeaux
2004 Chat CanonSt Emilion
2004 Chateau Leoville Las CasesSt Julien

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  • B-727

    I’d of loved to see the color of those wines; there’re probably beautiful. The black shirt didn’t help. How about wearing whatever you want (“Gee, how nice of you”) but put on a dorky white lab coat so we can see the great color? Yeah, I suppose wearing a lab coat is not likely. 🙁

  • B-727

    I’d of loved to see the color of those wines; there’re probably beautiful. The black shirt didn’t help. How about wearing whatever you want (“Gee, how nice of you”) but put on a dorky white lab coat so we can see the great color? Yeah, I suppose wearing a lab coat is not likely. 🙁

  • Syrahhhhhhhhh

    Just starting to explore the bordeaux…

    QOTD: Taking off to Amsterdam by myself for 10 days…he he

  • Syrahhhhhhhhh

    Just starting to explore the bordeaux…

    QOTD: Taking off to Amsterdam by myself for 10 days…he he

  • Redmeat

    QOTD,,,,,,,my House was a gut purchase,,,,it was half way done in a remodel and I didn’t even know how it would look when done…but the price was very tempting…..so I went with the gut and made an early offer(and got it for the price I wanted)….now 9 1/2 years later it has MORE than doubled and should double again in less than 5 years….

    Def my BEST gut choice!

  • Redmeat

    QOTD,,,,,,,my House was a gut purchase,,,,it was half way done in a remodel and I didn’t even know how it would look when done…but the price was very tempting…..so I went with the gut and made an early offer(and got it for the price I wanted)….now 9 1/2 years later it has MORE than doubled and should double again in less than 5 years….

    Def my BEST gut choice!

  • TROC

    Bordeaux’s confuse me, I never know what grape I’m drinking. They seem to be mostly Cab and Merlot blends but its usually not on the label. Also their Cru,Grand Cru, and other quality standards seem to be inconsistent depending on the region. Some regions can call an average wine a Grand Cru and others can’t. Its all mumbo jumbo to me. Best Gut decision would have to be a 1965 4speed, 4barrell, Mustang that never stops giving me Joy. Great show by the way.

  • TROC

    Bordeaux’s confuse me, I never know what grape I’m drinking. They seem to be mostly Cab and Merlot blends but its usually not on the label. Also their Cru,Grand Cru, and other quality standards seem to be inconsistent depending on the region. Some regions can call an average wine a Grand Cru and others can’t. Its all mumbo jumbo to me. Best Gut decision would have to be a 1965 4speed, 4barrell, Mustang that never stops giving me Joy. Great show by the way.

  • stephen

    Great show
    Considering the over the top prices that these 05 wines are being released at, 04 Bordeaux strikes a good balance between value and quality.
    My best gut buy was a plane ticket over the pond to the USA. After 6 years I am still here, found the girl of my dreams and loving every minute

  • stephen

    Great show
    Considering the over the top prices that these 05 wines are being released at, 04 Bordeaux strikes a good balance between value and quality.
    My best gut buy was a plane ticket over the pond to the USA. After 6 years I am still here, found the girl of my dreams and loving every minute

  • Rob

    Love the Bordeauxâ??s, but gotta admit I prefer the white B’s. The green apples are great on the finish.

  • Rob

    Love the Bordeauxâ??s, but gotta admit I prefer the white B’s. The green apples are great on the finish.

  • BobMac

    I just finished a 2004 Bordeaux…very good.

  • BobMac

    I just finished a 2004 Bordeaux…very good.

  • David L

    Umm, still don’t like Bordeaux’s. meh…

  • David L

    Umm, still don’t like Bordeaux’s. meh…

  • Amir

    This was probably one of the funniest episodes in terms of describing. You used some pretty amazing examples. I loved the Clos Les Lunelles. That was funny.

    The best gut decision I had was purchasing iPhones and selling them overseas. You can sell them for twice the price.

  • Amir

    This was probably one of the funniest episodes in terms of describing. You used some pretty amazing examples. I loved the Clos Les Lunelles. That was funny.

    The best gut decision I had was purchasing iPhones and selling them overseas. You can sell them for twice the price.

  • DaveA

    #403 – what a hoot. Ya gotta get Pipes back – she’s hot. Your dad reminds me of my dad – great guy. This was a great change of pace from your normal, but I love them also. don’t go changin’, just to please me…

  • DaveA

    #403 – what a hoot. Ya gotta get Pipes back – she’s hot. Your dad reminds me of my dad – great guy. This was a great change of pace from your normal, but I love them also. don’t go changin’, just to please me…

  • WMiree

    Great show! For me, you hit just right the perfect blend of enthusiasm, emotion, and professionalism. I have really enjoyed the enhanced educational component you have added to the videos in the last few months. The value added is enormous.

    QOTD: I bought fairly heavily on the 1983 Bordeaux in spite of all the hype surrounding the 1982’s and 1985’s. I have now drunk all my 1983’s except for a few bottles of Chateau Margaux. I wouldn’t call the vintage a “homerun,” but I am really glad I bought it. There were very few disappointments, and they were the last “classic” vintage at anything like those prices. The vintage also set a solid benchmark from which to compare the wines from 1982 and subsequent great vintages benefiting from the greatly improved vineyard and vinification techniques imployed by Bordeaux in the 1980’s.

  • WMiree

    Great show! For me, you hit just right the perfect blend of enthusiasm, emotion, and professionalism. I have really enjoyed the enhanced educational component you have added to the videos in the last few months. The value added is enormous.

    QOTD: I bought fairly heavily on the 1983 Bordeaux in spite of all the hype surrounding the 1982’s and 1985’s. I have now drunk all my 1983’s except for a few bottles of Chateau Margaux. I wouldn’t call the vintage a “homerun,” but I am really glad I bought it. There were very few disappointments, and they were the last “classic” vintage at anything like those prices. The vintage also set a solid benchmark from which to compare the wines from 1982 and subsequent great vintages benefiting from the greatly improved vineyard and vinification techniques imployed by Bordeaux in the 1980’s.

  • Tommy Vernieri

    Gary, that was hilariously (oh yeah, and very serious with the wines I like that once in a while).

    You better watch your back, get on Mott’s bad side and he may stage a coup.

    QOTD: My best gut-feeling purchase is my TV. I got it in 2005 off of craigslist. It’s a gigantic tube TV but I like it.

  • Tommy Vernieri

    Gary, that was hilariously (oh yeah, and very serious with the wines I like that once in a while).

    You better watch your back, get on Mott’s bad side and he may stage a coup.

    QOTD: My best gut-feeling purchase is my TV. I got it in 2005 off of craigslist. It’s a gigantic tube TV but I like it.

  • Big D

    Gary,
    Don’t dis the Mottster!!
    My best purchase was to pick up some Chateau Lascombes 2005 futures.

  • Big D

    Gary,
    Don’t dis the Mottster!!
    My best purchase was to pick up some Chateau Lascombes 2005 futures.

  • My best gut-purchase was the first full case of wine I ever bought. I saved up for a couple of months when I was a poor bike mechanic and purchased a full case of 1989 Chateau Clerc Milon in 1993 (I think it cost me around $200.00 or so back then). I still have a couple of bottles, and it is so fun to be able to remember the day I bought it, and remember every bottle I have opened since!
    Keep brining the thunder…Love to see the shows on Oregon wines!!!
    -Kelly
    Portland OR

  • My best gut-purchase was the first full case of wine I ever bought. I saved up for a couple of months when I was a poor bike mechanic and purchased a full case of 1989 Chateau Clerc Milon in 1993 (I think it cost me around $200.00 or so back then). I still have a couple of bottles, and it is so fun to be able to remember the day I bought it, and remember every bottle I have opened since!
    Keep brining the thunder…Love to see the shows on Oregon wines!!!
    -Kelly
    Portland OR

  • QotD: I don’t think I have ever spent money on a “gut” feeling. Other than food when I am hungry.

  • QotD: I don’t think I have ever spent money on a “gut” feeling. Other than food when I am hungry.

  • ClingF18

    Didn’t go to MLK Grammar but was born in Edison!
    Thanks for the Bordeaux inspiration! Thanks to you, Gary, I have tried several and can’t wait to try some of my 2005’s when they come in.
    QOTD: Wine-wise, mixed case of Mollydooker Boxer, Blue-eyed Boy and Carnival of Love. Love the Aussie fruit bomb!
    Non-wine: Bought a Wii for my kids last summer (for Christmas) when I knew nothing about it and then they were the sought after and almost impossible to find Xmas gift.

  • ClingF18

    Didn’t go to MLK Grammar but was born in Edison!
    Thanks for the Bordeaux inspiration! Thanks to you, Gary, I have tried several and can’t wait to try some of my 2005’s when they come in.
    QOTD: Wine-wise, mixed case of Mollydooker Boxer, Blue-eyed Boy and Carnival of Love. Love the Aussie fruit bomb!
    Non-wine: Bought a Wii for my kids last summer (for Christmas) when I knew nothing about it and then they were the sought after and almost impossible to find Xmas gift.

  • Steve

    Gary, I’ve watched about 20 of your episodes, and I’ve noticed that, prior to tasting the wines, you always seem to know exactly what the Robert Parker score or the Wine Spectator score of that particular wine is. Do you think this knowledge may be influencing your experience? This may be impossible for you, but do you think your reviews might be more “objective” or “honest” if you could taste the wines WITHOUT knowing the scores? Yes, I know that often you disagree with Parker and score either above or below him, but still you’re carrying his score information into the tasting with you, that’s got to color your perception. After you taste it, Mott could give you Parker’s score, and you could comment on that. Just a thought. Love your show.

  • Steve

    Gary, I’ve watched about 20 of your episodes, and I’ve noticed that, prior to tasting the wines, you always seem to know exactly what the Robert Parker score or the Wine Spectator score of that particular wine is. Do you think this knowledge may be influencing your experience? This may be impossible for you, but do you think your reviews might be more “objective” or “honest” if you could taste the wines WITHOUT knowing the scores? Yes, I know that often you disagree with Parker and score either above or below him, but still you’re carrying his score information into the tasting with you, that’s got to color your perception. After you taste it, Mott could give you Parker’s score, and you could comment on that. Just a thought. Love your show.

  • BenF

    Great Show GV… I am going with your gut… GOTD: wow great question i think there are lots of these gut decisions you make every day but who can remember… I may need to get back with you on this one… I know people and for the most part have good instincts on people…

  • BenF

    Great Show GV… I am going with your gut… GOTD: wow great question i think there are lots of these gut decisions you make every day but who can remember… I may need to get back with you on this one… I know people and for the most part have good instincts on people…

  • Anonymous

    Note to Clarke (no longer) lurking in VT. Hop on the forum (bottom of page) & check the Middlebury, VT topic in the TTT forum… didn’t want to send WLTV stuff to your business email…

  • laurie in VT

    Note to Clarke (no longer) lurking in VT. Hop on the forum (bottom of page) & check the Middlebury, VT topic in the TTT forum… didn’t want to send WLTV stuff to your business email…

  • Awesome show Gary. This one made me smile.

    QOTD: Hands down it’s gotta be that pencil I bought in 5th grade. Best pencil I ever owned.

  • Awesome show Gary. This one made me smile.

    QOTD: Hands down it’s gotta be that pencil I bought in 5th grade. Best pencil I ever owned.

  • BTW, still waiting for the ’04 Saint Jean Du Barroux episode!

  • BTW, still waiting for the ’04 Saint Jean Du Barroux episode!

  • RickyB

    QOTD- I picked up a 12 liter bottle of 99 Fontodi Flacienello at a Sotheby’s auction for around $500. A new T shirt in the making ” The Oak Monster has his passport”.

  • Blake

    QOTD: Best value purchase I’ve ever had…was a box of hockey cards about 8 or 9 yrs ago. Inside a box which I purchased for around 10 bones, were 3 cards, all of which were above $400 in value. Quick impulse buy, and it worked out.

    I think you should start answering your QOTD, I’m curious to see what your best value purchase was!

  • RickyB

    QOTD- I picked up a 12 liter bottle of 99 Fontodi Flacienello at a Sotheby’s auction for around $500. A new T shirt in the making ” The Oak Monster has his passport”.

  • Blake

    QOTD: Best value purchase I’ve ever had…was a box of hockey cards about 8 or 9 yrs ago. Inside a box which I purchased for around 10 bones, were 3 cards, all of which were above $400 in value. Quick impulse buy, and it worked out.

    I think you should start answering your QOTD, I’m curious to see what your best value purchase was!

  • DanM

    Who’s there?

    I know it was said already, but I couldn’t resist.

    QOTD: The larger size snowblower when I moved into my house… boy have I used it…

  • DanM

    Who’s there?

    I know it was said already, but I couldn’t resist.

    QOTD: The larger size snowblower when I moved into my house… boy have I used it…

  • Anonymous

    QOTD: My House and my piano..Wine purchase–Kosta Browne Pinot…

  • Donna Marie

    QOTD: My House and my piano..Wine purchase–Kosta Browne Pinot…

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