EP 448 California Zinfandel Death Match

Gary Vaynerchuk explores 3 very serious Zinfandels on the thunder show and talks a little more about his new book!

Wines tasted in this episode:

2004 Tres Sabores Rutherford ZinfandelNapa Red Zinfandel
2005 Neyers Zinfandel High ValleyOther California Red Zinfandel
2005 Ridge Lytton Springs ZinfandelSonoma Red Zinfandel

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John__J

qotd too late for both, but any varietal or region you haven’t had on the show yet is what I like seeing the most.

Tags: red, review, Video, wine, wines, zinfandel

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  • Christine

    QOTD1: I agree with another of the Vayniacs (Donna Marie) regarding distributing the book, i.e. make it part of a secret pack and include the book.

    QOTD2: I’d love to see a port or ice wine tasting in the near future.

  • VinoVixen

    QOTD #1-maybe offer some sort of incentive for wine tastings clubs or offer a monthly wine tasting pack including a coupons or something to buy the book?
    QOTD #2- since I am hosting our neighborhood wine club in May and the theme is Spain….a start to finish i.e. Cave-Priorat tasting would be great!!

  • VinoVixen

    QOTD #1-maybe offer some sort of incentive for wine tastings clubs or offer a monthly wine tasting pack including a coupons or something to buy the book?
    QOTD #2- since I am hosting our neighborhood wine club in May and the theme is Spain….a start to finish i.e. Cave-Priorat tasting would be great!!

  • NickJW

    QOTD: I like the pairings with food and cheese. I’d love to see some showdowns old world vs new world.

  • NickJW

    QOTD: I like the pairings with food and cheese. I’d love to see some showdowns old world vs new world.

  • Amber

    Some great show ideas. I want to bump up and mention my favorites.

    1.) New World Meritages vs Old World Bordeaux
    2.) Rhone Rangers vs Old World Rhones
    3.) Sparkling wine death match. Champagne vs French Cremants/Cava/Sekt/Am. Sparkling
    4.) Box wines-Some of the stuff coming from Australia and the Languedoc are pretty good but the category has a bad rep in the states.
    5.) South American wines. Uruguay/Malbec/Torrontes/Carmenere
    6.) Other side of the Valley (Same grape variety from different parts of the Loire/Napa/Sonoma/Rhone, etc Valley. Very terroir driven episode)
    7.) “Total CKC” all wines under $10, all mass produced and can be found most anywhere.
    8.) The other side of Portugal-Everybody thinks of Port but the red & white wines from there get very little love.
    9.) California Cult Wines-Are they worth the price? Better yet, taste them with a “half price/third price” alternative that you think will bring just as much (or more thunder) for a fraction of the price and compare the two.

  • Amber

    Some great show ideas. I want to bump up and mention my favorites.

    1.) New World Meritages vs Old World Bordeaux
    2.) Rhone Rangers vs Old World Rhones
    3.) Sparkling wine death match. Champagne vs French Cremants/Cava/Sekt/Am. Sparkling
    4.) Box wines-Some of the stuff coming from Australia and the Languedoc are pretty good but the category has a bad rep in the states.
    5.) South American wines. Uruguay/Malbec/Torrontes/Carmenere
    6.) Other side of the Valley (Same grape variety from different parts of the Loire/Napa/Sonoma/Rhone, etc Valley. Very terroir driven episode)
    7.) “Total CKC” all wines under $10, all mass produced and can be found most anywhere.
    8.) The other side of Portugal-Everybody thinks of Port but the red & white wines from there get very little love.
    9.) California Cult Wines-Are they worth the price? Better yet, taste them with a “half price/third price” alternative that you think will bring just as much (or more thunder) for a fraction of the price and compare the two.

  • Xavier

    qotd: reward once every week someone out of people who bought 5 or more books with a secret 3 pack of your choice at their next winepurchase at winelibrary..

    mh ild like to see u taste the selvrarossa 2004.. 3 glasses in G.R. for under 15 euro! I ordered some here in here europe for myself as well. More CDP tastings always welcome as well.. or perhaps a vertical tasting sometime.. clos mogador 2005.. guess i could go on for a while 😉

  • Xavier

    qotd: reward once every week someone out of people who bought 5 or more books with a secret 3 pack of your choice at their next winepurchase at winelibrary..

    mh ild like to see u taste the selvrarossa 2004.. 3 glasses in G.R. for under 15 euro! I ordered some here in here europe for myself as well. More CDP tastings always welcome as well.. or perhaps a vertical tasting sometime.. clos mogador 2005.. guess i could go on for a while 😉

  • QOTD: Buy thousands of copies. Then return them. Works well in the record industry.

  • QOTD: Buy thousands of copies. Then return them. Works well in the record industry.

  • Giggleloop

    Regarding QOTD2: I’m a new viewer to the show, I’ve only seen a few episode so far, so I’ve no idea if you’ve ever done these or not, but how about some wines from Missouri wine country? I’m in St. Louis, so I’m a bit biased, but I’d be interested to see what you thought of some of our St. James, Hermanhoff, Stone Hill, etc. wines.

    I had a lovely honeyed wine this past October at Chaumette Vineyards in Sainte Genevieve, Missouri… I think it was their Bouvet Blanc. I also liked their Huguenot Red. (I’m not a big wine drinker, and prefer sweetness to dryness) Just a thought. 🙂

  • Giggleloop

    Regarding QOTD2: I’m a new viewer to the show, I’ve only seen a few episode so far, so I’ve no idea if you’ve ever done these or not, but how about some wines from Missouri wine country? I’m in St. Louis, so I’m a bit biased, but I’d be interested to see what you thought of some of our St. James, Hermanhoff, Stone Hill, etc. wines.

    I had a lovely honeyed wine this past October at Chaumette Vineyards in Sainte Genevieve, Missouri… I think it was their Bouvet Blanc. I also liked their Huguenot Red. (I’m not a big wine drinker, and prefer sweetness to dryness) Just a thought. 🙂

  • Ryan

    you should do a downtown NJ show on the street…

  • Ryan

    you should do a downtown NJ show on the street…

  • GV – Fun show. QOTD – Since couldn’t sell a gold watch for $5 – my thoughts are nill. Something with Facebook friends perhaps? Gifts for 2+ purchases is a wonderful idea.

    QOTD Dos – I’ve never had wines from the UK (even when I lived there!) or you could do digestives/digestivos! Or how ’bout a flight from one winery – say Bonny Doon or Simi, etc.

  • GV – Fun show. QOTD – Since couldn’t sell a gold watch for $5 – my thoughts are nill. Something with Facebook friends perhaps? Gifts for 2+ purchases is a wonderful idea.

    QOTD Dos – I’ve never had wines from the UK (even when I lived there!) or you could do digestives/digestivos! Or how ’bout a flight from one winery – say Bonny Doon or Simi, etc.

  • sokolow

    I’d love to see another show on Ontario wines. Pelee Island is just alright, but there are some stand up wineries concentrated in the Niagara region. Henry of Pelham’s Speck Family Reserve Riesling is great, and their Reserve Baco Noir is really interesting. Fielding Estates makes a mean Riesling too. Flat Rock Cellars has a really nice Pinot Noir you should try. Prove it to the Americans that Canada can indeed make good wine!

    As for book marketing – try organizing tastings/book displays at different stores around the country. Draw people in with the wine, get them to buy a book.

  • sokolow

    I’d love to see another show on Ontario wines. Pelee Island is just alright, but there are some stand up wineries concentrated in the Niagara region. Henry of Pelham’s Speck Family Reserve Riesling is great, and their Reserve Baco Noir is really interesting. Fielding Estates makes a mean Riesling too. Flat Rock Cellars has a really nice Pinot Noir you should try. Prove it to the Americans that Canada can indeed make good wine!

    As for book marketing – try organizing tastings/book displays at different stores around the country. Draw people in with the wine, get them to buy a book.

  • To get the book out there…send an autographed copy to Oprah, Ellen, Conan, etc.

    THis week – can’t get enough champagne information.

    All the best from Naples Kathy aka Champagne Lady

  • Kathy Hughes

    To get the book out there…send an autographed copy to Oprah, Ellen, Conan, etc.

    THis week – can’t get enough champagne information.

    All the best from Naples Kathy aka Champagne Lady

  • Luis Felipe

    QOTD #1: Colaborate with the wineries that you mention in the Book. Everyone wins in that situation

  • Luis Felipe

    QOTD #1: Colaborate with the wineries that you mention in the Book. Everyone wins in that situation

  • Luis Felipe

    QOTD #2: 17 seasons is a looooong time, so why not revisit the first few episodes’ wine selections to see if YOUR pallate has changed?

    Maybe Mott could do a split-screen of Gary 17-season-ago and Gary 17-seasons-later. You know, to juxtapose your two reactions as a play by play.

  • Luis Felipe

    QOTD #2: 17 seasons is a looooong time, so why not revisit the first few episodes’ wine selections to see if YOUR pallate has changed?

    Maybe Mott could do a split-screen of Gary 17-season-ago and Gary 17-seasons-later. You know, to juxtapose your two reactions as a play by play.

  • MikeyB

    Would love to see a show about affordable whites for summer backyard sippin!

  • MikeyB

    Would love to see a show about affordable whites for summer backyard sippin!

  • Hey There Gary,

    First time viewer, long time wine drinker. 🙂

    I love the show first off and I have heard great things about you.

    Anyway, I actually work as an internet marketer and have a couple friends that teach people how to create Amazon Best Seller campaigns.

    Mark Joyner (the man who created and sold the first Digital e-book online) has a training on how to put together an Amazon Best Seller Campaign.

    I am not sure where he has it for sale but you can probably find out at his main site called Simnpleology.com.

    Hope that helps and best of luck with your campaign.

    Sincerely,

    Kyle Battis
    Concord, NH

  • Hey There Gary,

    First time viewer, long time wine drinker. 🙂

    I love the show first off and I have heard great things about you.

    Anyway, I actually work as an internet marketer and have a couple friends that teach people how to create Amazon Best Seller campaigns.

    Mark Joyner (the man who created and sold the first Digital e-book online) has a training on how to put together an Amazon Best Seller Campaign.

    I am not sure where he has it for sale but you can probably find out at his main site called Simnpleology.com.

    Hope that helps and best of luck with your campaign.

    Sincerely,

    Kyle Battis
    Concord, NH

  • KWC

    Not a big Zen drinker, but this definitely had my mouth watering.

    QOTD – What about incentives for referrals, basically you collect emails from others whom you convinced to purchase it, X number gets you an autographed copy, XX number gets you a bottle of wine from the book, XXX gets you the ability to select the topic for a show, XXXX gets you 3 bottle pack from the book, and the top referal person gets to be a guest taster next time they are around winelibrary. Just one long thought.

    QQOTD – I saw a few people suggesting doing a cult cab episode, which would be interesting. How about potential future cult cabs, there are a few newer low production cabs that are getting a lot of press but aren’t at the “cult” price levels…yet. These would be pricey but not over the top (50-75 bones)

  • KWC

    Not a big Zen drinker, but this definitely had my mouth watering.

    QOTD – What about incentives for referrals, basically you collect emails from others whom you convinced to purchase it, X number gets you an autographed copy, XX number gets you a bottle of wine from the book, XXX gets you the ability to select the topic for a show, XXXX gets you 3 bottle pack from the book, and the top referal person gets to be a guest taster next time they are around winelibrary. Just one long thought.

    QQOTD – I saw a few people suggesting doing a cult cab episode, which would be interesting. How about potential future cult cabs, there are a few newer low production cabs that are getting a lot of press but aren’t at the “cult” price levels…yet. These would be pricey but not over the top (50-75 bones)

  • Angelwuss

    QOTD – You could offer a raffle for some private wine classes with you. Go through a tasting of a few different smelling and tasting complex wines. Really break it down for them by having real food to show the different smells individually. It is kind of an “Improve your palate with Gary V” idea. You could even do this on the show, which might be fun.

    Another idea would be to have someone on the show to do the tasting with you.

  • Angelwuss

    QOTD – You could offer a raffle for some private wine classes with you. Go through a tasting of a few different smelling and tasting complex wines. Really break it down for them by having real food to show the different smells individually. It is kind of an “Improve your palate with Gary V” idea. You could even do this on the show, which might be fun.

    Another idea would be to have someone on the show to do the tasting with you.

  • Angelwuss

    As a further point to what I said below you could have every book you buy be 1 ticket into the raffle or something of that nature.

  • Angelwuss

    As a further point to what I said below you could have every book you buy be 1 ticket into the raffle or something of that nature.

  • Ideas for book: The best Restaurants, clubs, etc. that promote your book and show in house (with video or picture proof) will be entered to contest for you to visit sometime this summer. This coincides with a book/wine/rv tour across America. Gary tours across America visiting colleges, local TV shows, drinking wine, giving away wine, books, etc.

  • Ideas for book: The best Restaurants, clubs, etc. that promote your book and show in house (with video or picture proof) will be entered to contest for you to visit sometime this summer. This coincides with a book/wine/rv tour across America. Gary tours across America visiting colleges, local TV shows, drinking wine, giving away wine, books, etc.

  • Idea for book:

    Talk to the people at Wine and Spirits. I don’t know how you’d go about getting a book sold there. Surprisingly, they have a lot of different wine accessories, but I have NEVER seen a book there. You could be the first. That would be big.

  • Idea for book:

    Talk to the people at Wine and Spirits. I don’t know how you’d go about getting a book sold there. Surprisingly, they have a lot of different wine accessories, but I have NEVER seen a book there. You could be the first. That would be big.

  • Dom

    04 Barolo pleeeease! I have been hearing so much about it and I would love to get your take on it!

  • Dom

    04 Barolo pleeeease! I have been hearing so much about it and I would love to get your take on it!

  • Sarno

    I’d like to see a show where we get to see “the” new Mott Link it Up shirts. You know you have them…

  • Sarno

    I’d like to see a show where we get to see “the” new Mott Link it Up shirts. You know you have them…

  • Gary V!

    Hey, Stevie Ann in the Phoenix area here. Love, love, love your show. Longtime lurker, first-time commenter. If you haven’t already, try the Tres Sabores “Porque No?” Zin. It’s one of my faves â?? Julie Johnson is such an amazing, talented winemaker.

    QOTD 1 – A: Marketing ideas for your new tome …

    — Do something on the streets a la Jay Leno during the week of your book’s release. Except where his segment is called Jaywalking, you could call yours Vaywalking (I want credit for this!). 😉 Interview people on the streets of NJ/NY about wine and if they answer questions correctly, they get a signed book. Give locations of where you’ll be on the prior day’s episode so that there will be mobs of people there, which will create the curiosity factor, spike interest and generate sales. Mott can film the segment(s) â?? it’d be hilarious.

    — Have a “game show” of sorts on your book release day â?? modeled kinda after Michael Feldman’s “Whadya Know?” I listen to on Saturdays. While his is a radio show, yours could be a live gig at a local auditorium or at an outside venue â?? and a media event. Your game show could be called “101 Questions” and winners receive your autographed “101 Wines” book, Thunder wristbands and a Link It Up, Mott t-shirt. 🙂

    QOTD 2: Future show ideas …

    — Dude, it’s hot here … can you do a show about rosés? Favorites of mine have been Selby and Charles Melton. Curious what you might taste …. I’d like to see what you think about what’s out there in the rosé world.

    — Perhaps compare major U.S. label wines with their second label wines (the ones they usually make with leftover fruit or extra juice). See how the higher-priced, more well-known major labels compare in terms of taste and $$ to their lower-priced, lesser-known wines.

    — How about tasting non-alcoholic wines? I used to be a wine steward in a gourmet store here and I was surprised how many people would come in asking for them for variety of reasons: on meds, pregnant or nursing a baby, serving a dinner guest who’s alcoholic, yada yada. Not tons of people, mind you, but enough to raise my eyebrow. I never tried these “why bother” wines before.

    — I have in-laws in South Dakota who drink berry wines â?? no grapes in ’em. It makes me want to gag just thinking about it, but hey, it’d be more fun to watch you do it. 😉

    — Also, I agree with Ralph â?? include some Arizona wines. Page Springs Cellars and Caduceus are the best, IMHO. surprised how many wineries there are here in AZ …..

    Thanks for your show, Gary-man. I have you to thank for introducing me to so many wines that I thoroughly enjoy … especially Boudreaux wines from Rob Newsom in WA.

  • I’d like to see some Southern Italian Wines, such as Montapulciano di Abruzzi

  • Gary V!

    Hey, Stevie Ann in the Phoenix area here. Love, love, love your show. Longtime lurker, first-time commenter. If you haven’t already, try the Tres Sabores “Porque No?” Zin. It’s one of my faves â?? Julie Johnson is such an amazing, talented winemaker.

    QOTD 1 – A: Marketing ideas for your new tome …

    — Do something on the streets a la Jay Leno during the week of your book’s release. Except where his segment is called Jaywalking, you could call yours Vaywalking (I want credit for this!). 😉 Interview people on the streets of NJ/NY about wine and if they answer questions correctly, they get a signed book. Give locations of where you’ll be on the prior day’s episode so that there will be mobs of people there, which will create the curiosity factor, spike interest and generate sales. Mott can film the segment(s) â?? it’d be hilarious.

    — Have a “game show” of sorts on your book release day â?? modeled kinda after Michael Feldman’s “Whadya Know?” I listen to on Saturdays. While his is a radio show, yours could be a live gig at a local auditorium or at an outside venue â?? and a media event. Your game show could be called “101 Questions” and winners receive your autographed “101 Wines” book, Thunder wristbands and a Link It Up, Mott t-shirt. 🙂

    QOTD 2: Future show ideas …

    — Dude, it’s hot here … can you do a show about rosés? Favorites of mine have been Selby and Charles Melton. Curious what you might taste …. I’d like to see what you think about what’s out there in the rosé world.

    — Perhaps compare major U.S. label wines with their second label wines (the ones they usually make with leftover fruit or extra juice). See how the higher-priced, more well-known major labels compare in terms of taste and $$ to their lower-priced, lesser-known wines.

    — How about tasting non-alcoholic wines? I used to be a wine steward in a gourmet store here and I was surprised how many people would come in asking for them for variety of reasons: on meds, pregnant or nursing a baby, serving a dinner guest who’s alcoholic, yada yada. Not tons of people, mind you, but enough to raise my eyebrow. I never tried these “why bother” wines before.

    — I have in-laws in South Dakota who drink berry wines â?? no grapes in ’em. It makes me want to gag just thinking about it, but hey, it’d be more fun to watch you do it. 😉

    — Also, I agree with Ralph â?? include some Arizona wines. Page Springs Cellars and Caduceus are the best, IMHO. surprised how many wineries there are here in AZ …..

    Thanks for your show, Gary-man. I have you to thank for introducing me to so many wines that I thoroughly enjoy … especially Boudreaux wines from Rob Newsom in WA.

  • I’d like to see some Southern Italian Wines, such as Montapulciano di Abruzzi

  • steven p

    Gary

    One of my favorite bloggers is the marketing guru Seth Godin. Godin always makes a portion of his books (sometimes all of the book) free to download. It is amazing how this drives sales. Offer a few nuggets (more than a teaser which is just cheesy) and see if people will pony up to read the rest.

  • steven p

    Gary

    One of my favorite bloggers is the marketing guru Seth Godin. Godin always makes a portion of his books (sometimes all of the book) free to download. It is amazing how this drives sales. Offer a few nuggets (more than a teaser which is just cheesy) and see if people will pony up to read the rest.

  • M

    QOTD2: Malagousia or Xinomavro

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