EP 525 Remirez De Ganuza Mini-Vertical

Gary Vaynerchuk tastes two vintages of this high end Rioja and observes how big a difference a year can make!

Wines tasted in this episode:

Remirez De Ganuza Rioja 2002
2003 Remirez De Ganuza RiojaRioja

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Hate the oakmonster in spanish wines.. Lots of them are overdone. I like vanilla but too much is too much,srsly

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  • J Crazy

    I recently had the 2005 Clerc Milon and I’ve had the 02 and 03 before and was pretty surprised how different the 03 and 05 were. To be honest, I liked the 02 best.

  • J Crazy

    I recently had the 2005 Clerc Milon and I’ve had the 02 and 03 before and was pretty surprised how different the 03 and 05 were. To be honest, I liked the 02 best.

  • Poor Osi, great player, hope the injury isn’t too bad for your sake MOTT!!! QOTD: Haven’t had the opportunity to try a wine in two different years, by the time a year passes, I’m already onto something new…this should be something to try though.

    Great episode though (as always), and I’m waiting for the first time we hear

    “Mayo slices through the middle and takes Favre down like a RAG DOLL!!”

  • Poor Osi, great player, hope the injury isn’t too bad for your sake MOTT!!! QOTD: Haven’t had the opportunity to try a wine in two different years, by the time a year passes, I’m already onto something new…this should be something to try though.

    Great episode though (as always), and I’m waiting for the first time we hear

    “Mayo slices through the middle and takes Favre down like a RAG DOLL!!”

  • Anonymous

    QOTD 1: Tomorrow, matinée; Bottleshock… VERY overdue.
    QOTD 2: Here are a few: 2005 and 2006 Dark Horse Zinfandel, Dry Creek. 2006 and 2007 El Felino Malbec, Mendoza (Paul Hobbs). 2007 and 2008 Montes Cherub Syrah Rose. I could go on… bottom line is that vintage can make a TON of difference.

  • YoungDave

    QOTD 1: Tomorrow, matinée; Bottleshock… VERY overdue.
    QOTD 2: Here are a few: 2005 and 2006 Dark Horse Zinfandel, Dry Creek. 2006 and 2007 El Felino Malbec, Mendoza (Paul Hobbs). 2007 and 2008 Montes Cherub Syrah Rose. I could go on… bottom line is that vintage can make a TON of difference.

  • Hey Gary congrats, your Jets beat the Giants in final pre-season game! Nice. Our Pats have looked horrible in pre-season games. That Jets shirt your Mom made you is so adorable.

    QOTD1: Haven’t seen Bottle Shock yet, but definitely will, even if the story is Hollywood-ized.
    QOTD2: Only wines I’ve had opportunity to taste vertically are whites of i Clivi from Friuli. They only changed subtly over the 4 vintages I tasted.

  • Hey Gary congrats, your Jets beat the Giants in final pre-season game! Nice. Our Pats have looked horrible in pre-season games. That Jets shirt your Mom made you is so adorable.

    QOTD1: Haven’t seen Bottle Shock yet, but definitely will, even if the story is Hollywood-ized.
    QOTD2: Only wines I’ve had opportunity to taste vertically are whites of i Clivi from Friuli. They only changed subtly over the 4 vintages I tasted.

  • Anonymous

    Gary!
    Was fun to watch this episode being taped. Is there a schedule of when you “ustream”?
    QOTD: SeaSmoke! Very dissappointing from one vintage to the next.

  • Gary!
    Was fun to watch this episode being taped. Is there a schedule of when you “ustream”?
    QOTD: SeaSmoke! Very dissappointing from one vintage to the next.

  • Bernie Bearnaise

    I don’t have a temperature controlled cellar so I rarely collect wines but age them days or weeks at most. One of my goto wines last year was the 2006 Alamos Cabernet Sauvignon (RP 88) from Mendoza, Argentina. The 2007’s arrived and I perceived a surprising 4-5 point drop in quality. The Malbecs didn’t change as radically. Alamos Seleccion is a step up from the standard label. Also added to the vast Catena Zapata stable is the very quaffable Tilia line which comes in lower in price than the Alamos. The ’07 Malbec/Syrah was an interesting change from Cab/Syrah. These are great QPR wines and reliable. Many times when selecting a new wine I will be swayed by the shelf talker that raves about the wine and a score it received from some obscure source. Many times the vintage is incorrect and the information out of date. As you said the only constant is change. There’s always next year….

    Our Braves of Washington were mauled by the Carolina Panthers last night while I downed a whole bottle of ’07 Calina Reserva Carmenere (BB 88) from Valle Del Maule, Chile. How ironic. I will be drinking to forget this week. 10 days from now and we visit the Meadowlands against the NY football Giants. I hope my liver will be able to withstand the onslaught.

  • Bernie Bearnaise

    I don’t have a temperature controlled cellar so I rarely collect wines but age them days or weeks at most. One of my goto wines last year was the 2006 Alamos Cabernet Sauvignon (RP 88) from Mendoza, Argentina. The 2007’s arrived and I perceived a surprising 4-5 point drop in quality. The Malbecs didn’t change as radically. Alamos Seleccion is a step up from the standard label. Also added to the vast Catena Zapata stable is the very quaffable Tilia line which comes in lower in price than the Alamos. The ’07 Malbec/Syrah was an interesting change from Cab/Syrah. These are great QPR wines and reliable. Many times when selecting a new wine I will be swayed by the shelf talker that raves about the wine and a score it received from some obscure source. Many times the vintage is incorrect and the information out of date. As you said the only constant is change. There’s always next year….

    Our Braves of Washington were mauled by the Carolina Panthers last night while I downed a whole bottle of ’07 Calina Reserva Carmenere (BB 88) from Valle Del Maule, Chile. How ironic. I will be drinking to forget this week. 10 days from now and we visit the Meadowlands against the NY football Giants. I hope my liver will be able to withstand the onslaught.

  • Tommy Vernieri

    I’ll probably wait to rent Bottle Shock, haven’t heard great things about it.

    QOTD: I only have done two vintages of a wine twice. Mondavi Private Selection Central Coast Pinot Noir ’05 and ’06 and the Glatzer Grüner Veltliner ’04 and ’06. For both pairs my notes were pretty similar to the previous time I tasted them.

  • Tommy Vernieri

    I’ll probably wait to rent Bottle Shock, haven’t heard great things about it.

    QOTD: I only have done two vintages of a wine twice. Mondavi Private Selection Central Coast Pinot Noir ’05 and ’06 and the Glatzer Grüner Veltliner ’04 and ’06. For both pairs my notes were pretty similar to the previous time I tasted them.

  • terroirist

    The E. Guigal Chateauneauf-du Pape 2001 and 2003. I did not taste that at the same time, but looking at my notes I remember enjoying the 01′ a lot more than the 03′ in a big way.

    aka Mike in nebraska

    I am going to try and 05 and 06 Castano Monstrell this weekend though. uh monday tuesday are my “weekend.”

  • terroirist

    The E. Guigal Chateauneauf-du Pape 2001 and 2003. I did not taste that at the same time, but looking at my notes I remember enjoying the 01′ a lot more than the 03′ in a big way.

    aka Mike in nebraska

    I am going to try and 05 and 06 Castano Monstrell this weekend though. uh monday tuesday are my “weekend.”

  • David M Roberts

    Caught “Bottle Shock” this weekend at Milwaukee’s historic Oriental movie palace. Sure, it was a sugar coated affair with the underdog formula (the yin to “Sideways”‘ yang), but it was a very pleasant film regardless, with some good performances, and better, a good bit of history. Talk about changing the wine world, this film highlights that notion. It was nice to see a smaller budget film sans the special effects and cartoon characters. I give this new world fruit bomb 89 points.

    On a related side note, while “Sideways” put a dent in merlot and championed pinot noir, I wonder if this film will impact the now much maligned chardonnay and bring it back in fashion?….

  • David M Roberts

    Caught “Bottle Shock” this weekend at Milwaukee’s historic Oriental movie palace. Sure, it was a sugar coated affair with the underdog formula (the yin to “Sideways”‘ yang), but it was a very pleasant film regardless, with some good performances, and better, a good bit of history. Talk about changing the wine world, this film highlights that notion. It was nice to see a smaller budget film sans the special effects and cartoon characters. I give this new world fruit bomb 89 points.

    On a related side note, while “Sideways” put a dent in merlot and championed pinot noir, I wonder if this film will impact the now much maligned chardonnay and bring it back in fashion?….

  • ColoradoRick

    RE: Bottle Shock

    Fun flick. Good, not great. A good date night movie.

    Regarding the history? D- at best. Yes, there was a tasting in Paris in 1976. Yes, the Americans won. Yes, the Chateau Montelena’s Chard won.

    Other than that – the movie is complete fiction.

  • ColoradoRick

    RE: Bottle Shock

    Fun flick. Good, not great. A good date night movie.

    Regarding the history? D- at best. Yes, there was a tasting in Paris in 1976. Yes, the Americans won. Yes, the Chateau Montelena’s Chard won.

    Other than that – the movie is complete fiction.

  • Louisiana George

    Couple of years ago did a staggered vertical with 7 friends: 89 Mondavi Napa Cab, followed by 93 Mondavi Reserve Cab, followed by 86 Mondavi Reserve Cab. Fun showing how age and the soft 89 growing season effected the wines, particularly since most of my friends did not have much wine experience at the time.

  • Louisiana George

    Couple of years ago did a staggered vertical with 7 friends: 89 Mondavi Napa Cab, followed by 93 Mondavi Reserve Cab, followed by 86 Mondavi Reserve Cab. Fun showing how age and the soft 89 growing season effected the wines, particularly since most of my friends did not have much wine experience at the time.

  • sam

    Good show. Good idea to compare different vintages. Fom my own experience, I used to enjoy the Finca Flinchman from Argentina 2006, a very well priced Malbec with good dark fruits and a medium body. I found that the 2007 was so much lighter…maybe because it was younger. Good stuff!

  • sam

    Good show. Good idea to compare different vintages. Fom my own experience, I used to enjoy the Finca Flinchman from Argentina 2006, a very well priced Malbec with good dark fruits and a medium body. I found that the 2007 was so much lighter…maybe because it was younger. Good stuff!

  • Jezebel

    Loved Bottle Shock. It was nice, light, summery entertainment, a nice antidote after the blockbusters. Hey, how many true wine movies get made anyways?

  • Jezebel

    Loved Bottle Shock. It was nice, light, summery entertainment, a nice antidote after the blockbusters. Hey, how many true wine movies get made anyways?

  • dpe111

    QOTD: Santa Julia Malbec 2006 and Santa Julia Malbec 2007 tasted both the same week and they were worlds apart. A perfect example to show the 2006 was much better than 2007 in mendoza argentina.

  • dpe111

    QOTD: Santa Julia Malbec 2006 and Santa Julia Malbec 2007 tasted both the same week and they were worlds apart. A perfect example to show the 2006 was much better than 2007 in mendoza argentina.

  • QOTD: 2001 and 1995 Poggio Antico Brunellos. Different enough in age that it was more of an ‘aging’ comparison more than a vintage comparison, I’d say.

    Another: Domain Nalys in CDP – did verticals of about 4 vintages of both their reds and their white. VERY interesting, and taught me that I like CDP MUCH more after it’s got a few years behind it.

  • QOTD: 2001 and 1995 Poggio Antico Brunellos. Different enough in age that it was more of an ‘aging’ comparison more than a vintage comparison, I’d say.

    Another: Domain Nalys in CDP – did verticals of about 4 vintages of both their reds and their white. VERY interesting, and taught me that I like CDP MUCH more after it’s got a few years behind it.

  • QOTD: ’03 Peachy Canon Zin Incredible Red v. ’05 was drastically different. However, I wonder if the ’05 will change a lot in the next 2 yrs to be more represenative of the ’03 which I thought was one of the best bottles I’ve ever had.

  • QOTD: ’03 Peachy Canon Zin Incredible Red v. ’05 was drastically different. However, I wonder if the ’05 will change a lot in the next 2 yrs to be more represenative of the ’03 which I thought was one of the best bottles I’ve ever had.

  • Only wine I have tasted from subsequent years were the 1976 and 1977 Riuniti Lambrusco, I was underaged and they both sucked equally.

  • Only wine I have tasted from subsequent years were the 1976 and 1977 Riuniti Lambrusco, I was underaged and they both sucked equally.

  • Dannypo

    Interesting show. I love doing vertical tastings. But if you think beer is the same from year to year either you haven’t done a side by side tasting or you seriously need to improve your palate. There are about a dozen beers that I buy 12 of every year to age and to verticals.

    QOTD: Being pretty new to wine I haven’t done a side by side yet.

  • Dannypo

    Interesting show. I love doing vertical tastings. But if you think beer is the same from year to year either you haven’t done a side by side tasting or you seriously need to improve your palate. There are about a dozen beers that I buy 12 of every year to age and to verticals.

    QOTD: Being pretty new to wine I haven’t done a side by side yet.

  • espressokev

    from personal experience, i’ve had super radool bottles of Jack Daniel’s, then had “meh” bottles the next time i’ve bought it.

  • espressokev

    from personal experience, i’ve had super radool bottles of Jack Daniel’s, then had “meh” bottles the next time i’ve bought it.

  • Bobo36

    Have not seen Bottle Shock yet.

    QOTD: Schlid Barossa Shiraz 2006 vs. 2005. 2005 better, 2006 is flat, harder tannins, a bit hot. Probably pass on the ’06 ‘in toto’ this year. Drank a case of the ’05.

  • Bobo36

    Have not seen Bottle Shock yet.

    QOTD: Schlid Barossa Shiraz 2006 vs. 2005. 2005 better, 2006 is flat, harder tannins, a bit hot. Probably pass on the ’06 ‘in toto’ this year. Drank a case of the ’05.

  • Oklahoma Michael

    QOTD= funny you would ask that question. I am drinking 2007 Casa Marin SB at this moment and am STUNNED by how much better the 2006 was that I had a few days ago. 2007 still good. 2006 massive thunder soooo much better

  • Oklahoma Michael

    QOTD= funny you would ask that question. I am drinking 2007 Casa Marin SB at this moment and am STUNNED by how much better the 2006 was that I had a few days ago. 2007 still good. 2006 massive thunder soooo much better

  • QOTD: The biggest difference between different vintages for me is the 2004 RH Phillips EXP Syrah and it’s 2004 counterpart. The 2003 was incredible (for the price point) and really turned me on to drinking wine.

    The 2004 on the other hand just wasn’t as good. My palate wasn’t like it is today (not saying it’s refined yet at all), I just didn’t like it as much and was really disappointed.

    Great Show Gary.

  • QOTD: The biggest difference between different vintages for me is the 2004 RH Phillips EXP Syrah and it’s 2004 counterpart. The 2003 was incredible (for the price point) and really turned me on to drinking wine.

    The 2004 on the other hand just wasn’t as good. My palate wasn’t like it is today (not saying it’s refined yet at all), I just didn’t like it as much and was really disappointed.

    Great Show Gary.

  • A wine that I always buy and have seen tremendous differences throughout is “Marqués De Riscal”, 1995 being my absolute favorite followed by the 2001 vintage. There is a bit of a flaky shake on th flavors going from 1999 to the 2005, with the occasional OakMonster popping his head from time to time. Having said all that, I still buy any vintage of Riscal I can find, I like it.
    Cuné is also another wine that has a very distinct body from year to year, maybe it’s a Spanish thing.

    I have not seen the movie yet.

  • A wine that I always buy and have seen tremendous differences throughout is “Marqués De Riscal”, 1995 being my absolute favorite followed by the 2001 vintage. There is a bit of a flaky shake on th flavors going from 1999 to the 2005, with the occasional OakMonster popping his head from time to time. Having said all that, I still buy any vintage of Riscal I can find, I like it.
    Cuné is also another wine that has a very distinct body from year to year, maybe it’s a Spanish thing.

    I have not seen the movie yet.

  • Smahlatz

    QOTD : Had two vintage dark ales, one bottled 3 months after the other – the older one was so much better – rounder fuller darker, the younger one almost had pilsener type harsh edges to it.

  • Smahlatz

    QOTD : Had two vintage dark ales, one bottled 3 months after the other – the older one was so much better – rounder fuller darker, the younger one almost had pilsener type harsh edges to it.

  • Question OTD: Chilean Cabernet Sauvignon from Santa Carolina 2003 to 2004.
    Quote OTD: “Giants are ahead of the Jets”

  • Question OTD: Chilean Cabernet Sauvignon from Santa Carolina 2003 to 2004.
    Quote OTD: “Giants are ahead of the Jets”

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