EP 591 George Taber Talks Wine and Drinks Some Too!

George Taber stops by the Thunder Show and talks wine and other things.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Chalone Chalone Vineyard ChardonnayOther California Chardonnay
2004 Freemark Abbey Cabernet SauvignonNapa Cabernet

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Luca Bercelli

91/100

line of the day – ‘Preach it George…SAY IT’

The ‘Bottleshock’ guy is a great guest with loads of good anecdotes

Tags: cabernet, california, George Taber, napa, red, review, Video, white, wine, wines

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  • dkp

    one of the best guests ever.

    gary, you should put this guy on regularly.

    peace

  • dkp

    one of the best guests ever.

    gary, you should put this guy on regularly.

    peace

  • Chris in Tulsa

    Super guest Gary!!! Loved the book! It was a great story and very educational. Really wants me to check out his new book.

    QOTD: I’m a traditionalist and love the whole ritual of opening a bottle of wine with a cork. Kinda like opening up a present. That said I have no problems drinking wines with other closures as long as it’s good wine.

  • Chris in Tulsa

    Super guest Gary!!! Loved the book! It was a great story and very educational. Really wants me to check out his new book.

    QOTD: I’m a traditionalist and love the whole ritual of opening a bottle of wine with a cork. Kinda like opening up a present. That said I have no problems drinking wines with other closures as long as it’s good wine.

  • KAHUNA

    What is great about the Jets-

    No matter what bat the Giants do the Jets do something to trup them.

    Plexiglass – Shoots himself
    Jets- Get HI on the way to 8am practice

    Giants lose to Eagles – a team with a winning record
    Jets lose to the LOWLY pants off wearing 49ers

    THE JETS ARE THE BIGGEST SACK OF LOSERS EVER! Only thing worse than actualy being a Jet is being a JET fan.

  • KAHUNA

    What is great about the Jets-

    No matter what bat the Giants do the Jets do something to trup them.

    Plexiglass – Shoots himself
    Jets- Get HI on the way to 8am practice

    Giants lose to Eagles – a team with a winning record
    Jets lose to the LOWLY pants off wearing 49ers

    THE JETS ARE THE BIGGEST SACK OF LOSERS EVER! Only thing worse than actualy being a Jet is being a JET fan.

  • Eugene

    Lurker dropping first comment since my daily viewing in May. QOTD: I work in the wine service industry and love the tradition of the cork. Where will the Somms be in the age of screw-tops? Zesty early drinking whites are perfect for the screw-top, lets leave it there. I am def seeing an awkwardness with the synthetic closers and try to avoid them. There simply is nothing better than cork to age wines and they will never be completely replaced.

  • Eugene

    Lurker dropping first comment since my daily viewing in May. QOTD: I work in the wine service industry and love the tradition of the cork. Where will the Somms be in the age of screw-tops? Zesty early drinking whites are perfect for the screw-top, lets leave it there. I am def seeing an awkwardness with the synthetic closers and try to avoid them. There simply is nothing better than cork to age wines and they will never be completely replaced.

  • my2cents

    Really liked this episode. Nice flow on this one ! Background on the guest, fun conversation, good wine. A little sports jab or two. The best guest show I have seen. (I’ve only seen about 30 episodes though)

    Cork is what I know most. So I wouldn’t say they are my favorite but they are the closure I have had the most experience with. I have had a few screw tops and they seem fine to me. Easier to open on a picnic or at a housewarming when the corkscrew is still packed. I haven’t seen the others.

    My question: Does a good cork lend more to a wine than just keeping it in the bottle?

  • my2cents

    Really liked this episode. Nice flow on this one ! Background on the guest, fun conversation, good wine. A little sports jab or two. The best guest show I have seen. (I’ve only seen about 30 episodes though)

    Cork is what I know most. So I wouldn’t say they are my favorite but they are the closure I have had the most experience with. I have had a few screw tops and they seem fine to me. Easier to open on a picnic or at a housewarming when the corkscrew is still packed. I haven’t seen the others.

    My question: Does a good cork lend more to a wine than just keeping it in the bottle?

  • Rani Haykal

    Great Show!!!

    Awesome guest. Definitely cool to see the dude who wrote California in to the wine world.

    QOTD: I’ve always loved corks and will always love corks. Glass stoppers are a definite second though.

    –RH

  • Rani Haykal

    Great Show!!!

    Awesome guest. Definitely cool to see the dude who wrote California in to the wine world.

    QOTD: I’ve always loved corks and will always love corks. Glass stoppers are a definite second though.

    –RH

  • chukhead-ted

    great episode, keep the guests coming!

    my favorite closure–screwtop–i mean, come on, no corked bottles! This is the solution, and everyone has stop giving cheap looks when a bottle has a screwtop!

    I read a wine advocate article today about a chateau palmer vertical tasting–and the 1961 palmer was corked! How would you feel if that was your $1000 bottle that you saved for near 50 years– corked?!?

  • chukhead-ted

    great episode, keep the guests coming!

    my favorite closure–screwtop–i mean, come on, no corked bottles! This is the solution, and everyone has stop giving cheap looks when a bottle has a screwtop!

    I read a wine advocate article today about a chateau palmer vertical tasting–and the 1961 palmer was corked! How would you feel if that was your $1000 bottle that you saved for near 50 years– corked?!?

  • Rob B.

    Great episode — George seems like a great guy.
    QOTD: Still a cork guy, but had a riesling with the glass enclosure, which was pretty cool.

  • Rob B.

    Great episode — George seems like a great guy.
    QOTD: Still a cork guy, but had a riesling with the glass enclosure, which was pretty cool.

  • jenni

    hey gary- i noticed you haven’t done a show about frappato. i’m wondering what you think of valle dell’acate il frappato (sicily)
    jen

  • jenni

    hey gary- i noticed you haven’t done a show about frappato. i’m wondering what you think of valle dell’acate il frappato (sicily)
    jen

  • Thom Calabrese

    Gary
    I love WLTV. I worked for a wholesaler for over 10 yrs here in N.C. and in the mid 90’s repped Freemark Abbey,Grgich, and Stag Leap Wine Cellars. They were fantastic then and it was great getting to meet Mike G and Warren W and all the folks we meet from Freemark Abbey.
    I think like many Calis they lost there way either in PQR or Style or both.
    I thought I heard you mention that you hated the New York Giants and as a Jets fan I can understand it. I grew up in Jersey City and all my family is still in Hudson County and have always been a Giants fan. Living in the south I find it interesting that people don’t understand why if you like the Giants you wouldn’t like the Jets. The reasoning being the both play at Giant Stadium etc.
    I have always maintained, as a Giant fan, there is somethings you just don’t do and one is cheer for the Jets. It’s just wrong. Like sleeping with your sister. Nope can’t do it.
    Having said that and understanding your dislike of the G-Men I have only 1 question????? Why would you(or anyone for that matter) root for the Jets???
    Keep up the good work and I will make a point of checking out the store when I come up for my next visit(probably for holidays).
    Go Giants!

  • Thom Calabrese

    Gary
    I love WLTV. I worked for a wholesaler for over 10 yrs here in N.C. and in the mid 90’s repped Freemark Abbey,Grgich, and Stag Leap Wine Cellars. They were fantastic then and it was great getting to meet Mike G and Warren W and all the folks we meet from Freemark Abbey.
    I think like many Calis they lost there way either in PQR or Style or both.
    I thought I heard you mention that you hated the New York Giants and as a Jets fan I can understand it. I grew up in Jersey City and all my family is still in Hudson County and have always been a Giants fan. Living in the south I find it interesting that people don’t understand why if you like the Giants you wouldn’t like the Jets. The reasoning being the both play at Giant Stadium etc.
    I have always maintained, as a Giant fan, there is somethings you just don’t do and one is cheer for the Jets. It’s just wrong. Like sleeping with your sister. Nope can’t do it.
    Having said that and understanding your dislike of the G-Men I have only 1 question????? Why would you(or anyone for that matter) root for the Jets???
    Keep up the good work and I will make a point of checking out the store when I come up for my next visit(probably for holidays).
    Go Giants!

  • great, great show. your guests are consistently interesting, but George may have been the best so far.

    QOTD: the closure doesn?t matter to me. If I like the wine or am interested in it, I?ll buy it regardless of how it is sealed.

  • great, great show. your guests are consistently interesting, but George may have been the best so far.

    QOTD: the closure doesn?t matter to me. If I like the wine or am interested in it, I?ll buy it regardless of how it is sealed.

  • I am not as passionate about the wine closures. I love the pop of a cork (real or synthetic). The screw cap does have the stigma of a “cheap trick” bottle of wine.

    The guests are great – Keep up the awesome work!

  • I am not as passionate about the wine closures. I love the pop of a cork (real or synthetic). The screw cap does have the stigma of a “cheap trick” bottle of wine.

    The guests are great – Keep up the awesome work!

  • Awesome show!

    QOTD: prefer cork just cause it feels fancier. but like the convenience of screwtops and that you can nearly reseal the wine when you screw it shut.

  • Awesome show!

    QOTD: prefer cork just cause it feels fancier. but like the convenience of screwtops and that you can nearly reseal the wine when you screw it shut.

  • Hido53

    Gary!

    Wasn’t able to watch this episode until this morning . . . Absolutely fantastic show! For me, this was out and out the best guest show I’ve seen! George Taber absolutely brought the Thunder! You guys even got in some football smack talk! Killer!
    QOTD: I’ve only had wines from bottles which used cork, synthetic cork, and scewcap. I’m more of a traditionalist and prefer the cork, but to be frank, if there was a screwcap, it wouldn’t prevent me from buying the wine.

    Oh yeah . . . my Niners . . . Dead? . . . I THINK NOT! . . . still sticking with my 10-6 prediction for the Jets.

  • Hido53

    Gary!

    Wasn’t able to watch this episode until this morning . . . Absolutely fantastic show! For me, this was out and out the best guest show I’ve seen! George Taber absolutely brought the Thunder! You guys even got in some football smack talk! Killer!
    QOTD: I’ve only had wines from bottles which used cork, synthetic cork, and scewcap. I’m more of a traditionalist and prefer the cork, but to be frank, if there was a screwcap, it wouldn’t prevent me from buying the wine.

    Oh yeah . . . my Niners . . . Dead? . . . I THINK NOT! . . . still sticking with my 10-6 prediction for the Jets.

  • I have never avoided a wine because of the closure. I prefer the screw cap not only because it is easy, but also because a majority of the winemakers I have talked to have given many reasons for the advantage of using this type of closure. The only thing I would miss is collecting the corks. It is really cool to pull a cork out with the name of the winery on it and having the memories of that bottle brought back to mind. Wineries should think about putting something on the inside of the cap. Remember the caps on Lucky Beer?

  • I have never avoided a wine because of the closure. I prefer the screw cap not only because it is easy, but also because a majority of the winemakers I have talked to have given many reasons for the advantage of using this type of closure. The only thing I would miss is collecting the corks. It is really cool to pull a cork out with the name of the winery on it and having the memories of that bottle brought back to mind. Wineries should think about putting something on the inside of the cap. Remember the caps on Lucky Beer?

  • Great episode….I will check out the book when it comes out.

    QOTD:
    -I prefer a screw top they are so easy 🙂

  • Great episode….I will check out the book when it comes out.

    QOTD:
    -I prefer a screw top they are so easy 🙂

  • danseng

    Gotta say I really like the few glass top enclosures that I’ve seen. Other than that screwcaps are fine with me, and that has changed over the past few years. I don’t think twice when I see them on more expensive wines.

  • danseng

    Gotta say I really like the few glass top enclosures that I’ve seen. Other than that screwcaps are fine with me, and that has changed over the past few years. I don’t think twice when I see them on more expensive wines.

  • wayno da wino

    Yo Guys, SUUUUUPER DUUUUUPER Episode!! Mooooocho Thanx!! Bought
    “Judgement of Paris” a couple years ago. A FIIIIINE Read for all us
    Vino Geeks…. 🙂

    qotd: As long as da Juice in da Bottle is Yummy….either one is
    coooool wit me…… 🙂

  • wayno da wino

    Yo Guys, SUUUUUPER DUUUUUPER Episode!! Mooooocho Thanx!! Bought
    “Judgement of Paris” a couple years ago. A FIIIIINE Read for all us
    Vino Geeks…. 🙂

    qotd: As long as da Juice in da Bottle is Yummy….either one is
    coooool wit me…… 🙂

  • Sergio

    What do you mean 9ers are dead? More like Jets were “SPANKED”. Favre is dead.

  • Sergio

    What do you mean 9ers are dead? More like Jets were “SPANKED”. Favre is dead.

  • Chippewamike

    OUTSTANDING SHOW! Loved Judgment of Paris.

    QOTD: Still like corks (don’t hate screwcaps though). Have not changed much in the past two-three years. Its the “experience” of opening the bottle and hearing the “pop”.

  • Chippewamike

    OUTSTANDING SHOW! Loved Judgment of Paris.

    QOTD: Still like corks (don’t hate screwcaps though). Have not changed much in the past two-three years. Its the “experience” of opening the bottle and hearing the “pop”.

  • RADV

    Nice show!

    QOTD: CORK no doubt (tradition and romance my friends – in my opinion very important aspect of wine drinking in general).

    Screwtop would come in second by a wide margin. Will not stop me from buying a wine but always have that feeling that something in the experience is missing.

    Hate the synthetic cork. If you are going for tradition – do it right – with a cork.

  • RADV

    Nice show!

    QOTD: CORK no doubt (tradition and romance my friends – in my opinion very important aspect of wine drinking in general).

    Screwtop would come in second by a wide margin. Will not stop me from buying a wine but always have that feeling that something in the experience is missing.

    Hate the synthetic cork. If you are going for tradition – do it right – with a cork.

  • Don

    QITD: Cork or screw tops not _that_ important to me. I’m a little concerned on screwtops over time, but I rarely let wines stay around that long anyway. 🙂

    Great guest. Marvelous banter about some terribly interesting times. Keep it up. Love the show (first time commenting, btw)

  • Don

    QITD: Cork or screw tops not _that_ important to me. I’m a little concerned on screwtops over time, but I rarely let wines stay around that long anyway. 🙂

    Great guest. Marvelous banter about some terribly interesting times. Keep it up. Love the show (first time commenting, btw)

  • Jayhitek

    QOTD: I like the screw caps. So easy!

  • Jayhitek

    QOTD: I like the screw caps. So easy!

  • Great show. I saw George speak at a book signing for his book on closures a year or so ago. He brought two wines I believe they were Sauvignon Blancs from New Zealand. Everything was equal, cultivar, vintage, winemaker, etc., with the exception of the closure. One was closed by a cork and the other by twist-off. What a difference. For my pallet and experience I feel that twist (not screw, which describes something else) works beautifully well for whites and light reds while cork is still my preference for heavier reds. Although I recently saw, but did not purchase, a Napa Plumbjack Cabernet Sauvignon under a twist for around $200. Both of George’s books are must reads for anyone with serious interest in wine – vayniacs! I’m very fired up to hear that he’s got a new book coming out about wine tourism since that’s my business. Sorry for the shameless plug but if anyone is interested in learing about Organic and Biodynamic grape farming in Santa Barbara, not to mention tasting some insanely great wines (check out Gary’s review of one of our visited wineries Ampelos) check us out… sustainablevine.com Thanks Gary and keep up the great work.

    Bryan
    Santa Barbara, CA

  • Great show. I saw George speak at a book signing for his book on closures a year or so ago. He brought two wines I believe they were Sauvignon Blancs from New Zealand. Everything was equal, cultivar, vintage, winemaker, etc., with the exception of the closure. One was closed by a cork and the other by twist-off. What a difference. For my pallet and experience I feel that twist (not screw, which describes something else) works beautifully well for whites and light reds while cork is still my preference for heavier reds. Although I recently saw, but did not purchase, a Napa Plumbjack Cabernet Sauvignon under a twist for around $200. Both of George’s books are must reads for anyone with serious interest in wine – vayniacs! I’m very fired up to hear that he’s got a new book coming out about wine tourism since that’s my business. Sorry for the shameless plug but if anyone is interested in learing about Organic and Biodynamic grape farming in Santa Barbara, not to mention tasting some insanely great wines (check out Gary’s review of one of our visited wineries Ampelos) check us out… sustainablevine.com Thanks Gary and keep up the great work.

    Bryan
    Santa Barbara, CA

  • Highest score tonight for any of wines = 50 pts

    Sorry about that devastating loss.

  • Highest score tonight for any of wines = 50 pts

    Sorry about that devastating loss.

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