EP 825 Guitars, Grenache, and Cabernet

Gary sits down with Billy Penn to talk about their music, wine, and taste. They try a Spanish Garnacha and an Australian Cabernet.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Algairen GarnachaCarinena
2004 Limb Cabernet SauvignonBarossa Cabernet Sauvignon

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luca bercelli

89/100

line of the day – ‘Mark Macguire – your neck is the size of my house over the top’

Good episode, solid guest who didn’t pretend to be an expert

Tags: Australian, cabernet, Carinena, red, review, Video, wine, wines

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  • boughtrecords

    I have been a huge cab guy for a long time but lately grenache has captured my attention especially GSM's. Being a Gibson fan I love huge, loud and noisy wines. Kind of like p-90 pickups… Yeah, you might get a little buzz through the amp but nothing else will give you that tone… I have been learning to recognize the subtler things in wine and guitars. I still want a huge Mesa stack but I also want a Matchless 2-12…….. I still love the big reds but have been learning to appreciate some of the reislings (ok, mainly because it is a wine my wife can also appreciate…)

    Top 5 guitar players and you don't mention Les Paul? Chet Atkins? Mark Knopfler? Dimebag(RIP)? or Willie Nelson? I'm not saying that these ARE the top 5 but surely one of them should have made anyone's list….

  • RocketRon

    Great show and a great guest! Found it very entertaining. Enjoyed the Johnny Cash song.Well done!

  • Hey

    Good show guys and good Cash

    QOTD: … … not a guitar player … … sorry …

  • DAveAll

    GREAT guest. Humble, humorous, funny. wow.

    QOTD: i play accordion, the only true portable instrument.

  • drt999

    QOTD — disqualified

    Considering how you dissed the Canadian white yesterday, I was slightly surprised it was sold out. I guess any wine you mention gets sold, no matter what you say about it!

  • Richie

    QOTD: Well I don't play guitar but one of my roommates plays a Fender and she likes pinos from Germany and portuguise wines.

  • WineWoman

    QOTD:Though I'm a musician and play several instruments, guitar is not one of them. You should have asked how many guitar players have played Guitar Hero. It's true that Guitar Hero has increased the interest of learning to play the guitar, but once the student begins taking lessons, they don't always realize the amount of work involved and lose interest. I'm sure there's a number of people that have stayed with it and enjoy it.
    I'm also a fan of the late Danny Gatton. If you don't know who he is you should definitely check him out.

  • Anonymous

    If you take the time to comment something meaningful, you could fall out of the top ten or worse yet, loose the respect of some of your cyber friends.

  • Mott

    You can find it here;

    http://littleguitargifts.com/

  • As a guitar player I think it's important to have a lot of influences. I feel the same with my wine. I'm open to anything, but my fav has gotta be Australian Cab.

  • QOTD: I don't think i've ever stuck to any specific group of wine. Ever.
    I tend to try and buy wines i know the very least about.
    Not sure i've ever chillaxed with some wine and my guitar. Sounds like something i'll be doing very soon though.

    Also loving the various metaphors for describing the wine.

  • That was fun show. BP was good and honest about what he liked. APPLE!

    QOTD: I grew up on the piano and organ. Only about 10 years did I move into playing the guitar. My top 5, at this moment, would be Richard Thompson, Jerry Garcia, Doc Watson, Marc Ribot, and Kawabata Makoto. That cross section is pretty representative of my approach to wine. I go all over the place. And like you, I enjoy a little bit while I play. Reds in the winter, and predominantly whites in the summer. Gets hot down here in sofla.

  • Waits

    Love the lyrics, i dunno about best album, but one the fave tracks will be Kid Charlemagne.

  • I have some friends that own guitar shops and when the Beatles Rock Band was released their phones were ringing all the time. Kids wanted “Beatle guitar models”. What is a ’64 Rick 325 in Jetglo worth these days….? All the Beatle guitar models are really expensive for that reason. Good point….how many kids got a guitar and stick with it?

  • Can you play some cajun music on that accordion? I really like some of the zydeco stuff….!

  • Thank you very kindly…..!!

  • Ha! P-90s are about the noisiest pickups EVAR but nothing sounds like them….totally agree. I played through a Marshall Major that made my teeth rattle…..I thought the brown note effect was going to happen but never did….!! You have mentioned some great players. I love Willie Nelson’s playing… That old Martin nylon string guitar he plays he named “Trigger”.

  • Thanks for the kind words and for visiting 300guitars…I appreciate it more than you know! 11 years of playing means that you are probably very good….cool. What is your guitar of choice these days?? Believe me when I say that this was a huge thrill for me. Gary is a great guy and an awesome host. Everyone at Wine Library treated me very well and the place is amazing….. go there if you can!!

  • Why don’t we lift the guitar only and open it up to all instruments… What instrument do you play??

  • Nice episode.

  • What color is your ’71 Tele? I LOVE Telecasters..! I have built several including the one I played on the show. The more I learn about wine the more I need to know…. Its like with guitars…so many manufacturers with variations, etc…

  • corkscrew

    BP was a cool guy, doing what he loves..passion! Gary beating up on guest…who picked the wines? Can't play but enjoy listening..whites..mostly reds. http://www.winelx.com

  • Yeah Lyman…Danny was unreal. And Albert Lee & Mark Knopfler are another couple of awesome players. I picked the wines so that’s my bad….. Gary makes the show whether the wines are great or so-so. He is a great guy and I am very thankful to have been on WLTV.

  • That sounds cool Jay_K..! I go right for an electric 99% of the time. As a matter of fact I woke up this morning with no power in the house and could not plug my Tele in…. You don’t know how much you miss electricity until it’s not there….!! So I played my Larrivee instead..!

  • I totally mentioned jazz players….Joe Pass & Grant Green. I have been spending any spare time listening and trying to play more jazz. I find it a bit of a difficult language for me but I’m chipping away at it…!

  • treb

    Wow. Mr. Penn can play the axe, but when it comes to tasting, he's beginner at best (apples?). It would have been nice to hear him admit that although he drinks the juice, he hasn't studied it and isn't familiar with tasting profiles. Is it humility, honesty, or ego? However, he rocked the Cash and no Steeley Dan, which earns him megga points in my book. MOTT, COMMON.

  • treb

    Oh, and John Frusciante is the new Jimi Hendrix.

  • scottEJ

    Thanks guys. Music and wine are a near perfect combo.

  • Waits

    I totally agree with you, Gary is overrated! ; )

  • bloggerandy

    LOL, just shove his face in that glass Gary!

  • Tom

    Good guest. I have a guitar, but can't play worth a darn. I'm great at Rock Band though.

  • wow. Merle travis. he played almost clawhammer style, much like how john prine plays now. you should check out Larry Keel.

  • castello

    So he shouldn't even think about smelling apples in a red wine? He said he's not a pro or anything like that. Gary says to go with your first instinct. How are we gonna change the wine world with tudes like that?

  • aeggert

    Excellent show! “Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence.” -Robert Fripp

    QOTD: Though I haven't picked up my guitar in a long time (and couldn't play very well even when I did), I tend to prefer reds of all varieties, especially Riojas, and Pinot noir. Though thanks to Gary and his show I am expanding my palate into the whites quite a bit these days.

  • murso

    Billy needs to meet Jorge Ordonez for the cost-effective KILLERS (AND numerous upper tier, and more serious, stellar) across the Iberian peninsula.
    I'm sure I'd enjoy the Limb, as long as the fruit is deep/ concentrated enough to match all that make-up, which I can (easier than GV) tolerate, but he's still right. It's just not the kind of stuff I want to spend my money on, 1st, 2nd, OR 3rd. That kind of wine, gets one bottle into a case, SOMETIMES, but in general, and as a wine industry person, my journey, by necessity, must go much further and wider. Sometimes, wierder, too – Uruguay has good wine! (Tannat, from Pisoni Fam, etc.) Eastern Europe has loads of pleasant P.G., AND P.Blanc, Furmint, Harslevelu, etc. Italy's myriad of unsung whites, encompassing the total spectrum! Just had a late Harvest Rkatsitelli from near my home, in N.E. Ohio.
    QotD – Now, 3 months in , w/ a new company which has thousands of wines, the lion's share of which is under my belt, so to speak, w/ many years in this industry, I am now concentrating on many of our core products, direct imports, and regular features/ promo items etc. We taste alot, and if Iknow it, theres no need for me to buy it… so I'm buying mid-low (20-40 buck) Bordeaux – the spectrum is astounding, and the names, and variation is a thing that 'floats my boat”. Burgundy even more so, but your just not gonna get the public to join this, en masse. They'll stay w/ goopy, highly perfumed Cali. till the cows come home. (But, in-the-know people are getting into the central Otago Pinots in N.Z., and that is good!) My 'pet grapes', though, are Cab Franc, from everywhere! Even Canada's sometimes weed efforts, and Mourvedre (inc. Spanish Monastrell), from Rhone/Lang blending, to Aussie or U.S. plum bombs, to newer croppings up in S. America. ok enough!

  • murso

    And like wine, so I'd been intimately involved w/ music. Played since childhood, and my 1st paid rock gig, for a party was '79. Since, I'd played rock in it's many varieties for years, from the classic rock book, to rockabilly, then punk, etc., everywhere from the West coast, to months of tours across Europe, back to roots & New Orleans, and 20th c. American songbook, and pop, in a goofy kitschy lounge act. Lotta fun, a lotta love! Sometimes ya make money at this too, but it's hard work!

    Q otD – in no particular order. 1. Django Reinhardt,
    2. Antonio Carlos Jobim,
    3. Dr. Eugene Chadbourne – his 80's band 'Shockabilly',( geniuses Alan Licht, and the Organist/ bassist/ studio whizz/producer Kramer), is one of the insanest/geniusest/jaw dropping things I'd EVER seen (out of THOUSANDS of small name, cult, arty, punk, rock etc. Again, I know music -jazz, punk, and rock, even more than I'd known wine, for 25 years!) !
    4.Greg Ginn, of Black Flag. He is simply a genius, in so many ways – but you'd have to dig free jazz to 'get' half of it.
    5. yeah, that other guy's prob right… Les Paul, who'd we just this past couple of years ago lost, no? He continued to play Monday nights @ Iridium NYC, I think, into his 90's!!! RIP Les, and thanks!

  • QOTD: I love reds, especially full bodied and spicey. Currently I'm in love with regions around Cotes du Rhone, but I try to buy different wines each time to expand my palate.

    Bear in mind, I'm mostly a pianist and a violinist, and haven't played guitar for a while! 🙂

    Great show! I loved the honesty. APPLE!

  • castello

    Nice videos!

  • castello

    We're not sure why we do it, but it's fun.

  • sam1984

    cool 'pisode. I want that rack and a time machine so I can go back in time and beat the crap out of my younger self for deciding it would be cool to take up juggling instead of guitar.

    I like reds and whites all in their place. I would never tuck into a garlic rubbed rib roast with a pinot blanc, nor would I set out on the deck to catch the afternoon sun with a Jasper Fforde and a Claret.

    Don't know if this is a fooks pass, but I couldn't help but wonder if people have a favorite music-wine pairing? Beethovan-Barolo? Mingus-Merlot? or the bouncy acidity of a crisp German Riesling with the bouncy electronic sound of New Pornographers? Just wondering.

  • lawrenceleichtman

    Played for over 45 years and still play every day + amateur nights weekly. I like Syrah with late night playing though summertime outdoors a good Rose or Rosato. I have to agree, Danny Gatton was way under-rated as a great player. Like to listen to Django but can't do his licks. Hard top beat the trio of Satriani, Vai, and Eric Johnson.

  • murso

    I love them up till Royal Sacm, and even Aja, but mainstream radio gets ahld of something, and beats it to %$# death, so that one's a so-so… But my faves of all are King of the World, and Pearl of the Quarter from Countdown!

    And I sang Show Biz Kids at Karaoke once! people either get it… or they don't!

  • Agree that Gatton was under rated, but should that really matter if your peers consider you killer. Maybe a better term would be under the radar for the listening public. IDK.

  • theDude

    Alright, I'm going to post a comment even though I told myself I wouldn't after dissing Gary about the lurkers a while back. I don't think GV actually reads these comments anyway but whoever does, here goes:

    -Please thank Gary for laying off the lurkers a little bit (this is my 4th or 5th posting in 2 years of watching the show and I'm only going to post when I feel like!).

    -I listen to a crap load of music (as Gary might say), I play the guitar, I play guitar hero, I drink a lot of wine and I am quite good at all of them! I love the diversity of music and wine because they compliment the diversity of life.

  • Tasting profiles? I know about the wine tasting wheel and the “recommended” profile of different grapes, but meh!. I see that more as a help not a truth. I have smelled red ripe soft winterapples in red wines, so who knows? Expand more than palates, expand mindsets too, otherwise the wine world will never change

  • davidemillombard

    Nice variation…humble guy, some great humor, …… & my understanding of the wine scene deepens. From watching WLT, I've easily learned about more wines/styles than I've ever tasted. Raquel (GF) has been watching the last week, loves your style, and she's inspired now to go shopping. Time to take the knowledge you've dropped on us from intellectual to cellular by tasting all these types!

  • I'm so sorry for being first this episode. It will not happen again. But this time it got posted just when i checked the site before going to bed (yes bed CET + 6 hours.)

  • murso

    I got to interview Neko Case, back around 2001. she is a darling!

    I confess, someone had one too many, but that means, as you can hear, everyone was having a real good time! AND, she liked me!!!

  • murso

    interview is here. She's talented, beautiful, engaging, and humorous too. It is no surprise that she has a massive, fanatical following.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWer26Y4nus

  • pepel

    GV – Granasha and evelation I love that you're dyslexic so am i lolol

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