EP 290 Does The Color of a Wine Have a Huge Impact on Quality or Age?

A fantastic website I often visit did an interesting article on the color of wine that has gotten a lot of attention on the web so I am here to address it!

Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Domaine Barat Chablis FourneauxChablis
2004 Cascina Morassino Langhe NebbioloNebbiolo d’Alba
2005 Clayhouse Syrah Paso RoblesOther California Syrah/Shiraz
1981 Lopez De Heredia Bosconia Gran ReservaRioja
1996 Clarendon Hills SyrahAustralian Shiraz/Syrah

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  • amgryger

    Thanks for the Lopez de Heredia. I did ask for one a couple times.

    Also, thanks for the nebbiolo. I love nebbiolo wines across the board. Langhe, D’Alba, Barbaresco, Barolo, Gattinara, Nebbiolo Rose…

    QOTD: It happens to be a paint color. Winsor & Newton French Ultramarine.

  • amgryger

    Thanks for the Lopez de Heredia. I did ask for one a couple times.

    Also, thanks for the nebbiolo. I love nebbiolo wines across the board. Langhe, D’Alba, Barbaresco, Barolo, Gattinara, Nebbiolo Rose…

    QOTD: It happens to be a paint color. Winsor & Newton French Ultramarine.

  • Malphas

    QOTD: I love the color Violet (purple): The color of royalty, baby!

  • Malphas

    QOTD: I love the color Violet (purple): The color of royalty, baby!

  • Doc Dan

    Good show GV! Love the older vintages i the show. QOTD: Notre Dame Blue and Gold!

  • Doc Dan

    Good show GV! Love the older vintages i the show. QOTD: Notre Dame Blue and Gold!

  • KW

    I have found that white wines do darken with age. But they don’t all darken equally. Like you I have not found the reds to change color much, though in some instances I have found some older red wines to be a bit more muddy or cloudy / sometimes caused by silt formation, the amount probably based on filtation levels.

    QOTD: Blue

  • KW

    I have found that white wines do darken with age. But they don’t all darken equally. Like you I have not found the reds to change color much, though in some instances I have found some older red wines to be a bit more muddy or cloudy / sometimes caused by silt formation, the amount probably based on filtation levels.

    QOTD: Blue

  • Ed Sadkowski

    Gary:
    Great Show, As usual

    The thing about color as it relates to over age, it seems to me, is a non-starter unless you are a collector. I am relatively new to the wine world and find it near impossible to let a wine go past its prime. I have not the cellaring facilities or the money to keep or purchase such wine. That being said, I go through 2 to 3 bottles a week, and spend a average of $24 a bottle. Color is one of the things I find to be important to my enjoyment of wine, the way a good chenin blanc has a golden sparkle in the late afternoon sun or the deep ruby edge glow of a nice Rioja as it fads to near ink black in the depths of the glass.

    The Great thing about wine, and the way Gary V. presents it, is that it is an individual experience that is about sight, smell and taste, not only of what is in your wine glass but also of the environment you are in and the company you keep.

    And for that I lift my glass high and say Cheers to Gary V. and his continued success.

    Eddy S. 🙂
    California

  • Ed Sadkowski

    Gary:
    Great Show, As usual

    The thing about color as it relates to over age, it seems to me, is a non-starter unless you are a collector. I am relatively new to the wine world and find it near impossible to let a wine go past its prime. I have not the cellaring facilities or the money to keep or purchase such wine. That being said, I go through 2 to 3 bottles a week, and spend a average of $24 a bottle. Color is one of the things I find to be important to my enjoyment of wine, the way a good chenin blanc has a golden sparkle in the late afternoon sun or the deep ruby edge glow of a nice Rioja as it fads to near ink black in the depths of the glass.

    The Great thing about wine, and the way Gary V. presents it, is that it is an individual experience that is about sight, smell and taste, not only of what is in your wine glass but also of the environment you are in and the company you keep.

    And for that I lift my glass high and say Cheers to Gary V. and his continued success.

    Eddy S. 🙂
    California

  • diego de la p…

    great show again man!, you should have tried the first chablis just for fun and to see your reaction haha that could have been real fun

    QOTD: blue

  • diego de la p…

    great show again man!, you should have tried the first chablis just for fun and to see your reaction haha that could have been real fun

    QOTD: blue

  • Clearly, the winners here are the Nebbiolo and the Clarendon Hills. I liked when you described the concept of “stinkers”. I appreciate that in wine, and in other instances in life. Very good show!

  • Clearly, the winners here are the Nebbiolo and the Clarendon Hills. I liked when you described the concept of “stinkers”. I appreciate that in wine, and in other instances in life. Very good show!

  • TheThriller

    Dirty diapers? Baby craping jalapenos? I love it!!! I’ve never read that in Wine Spectator.

    QOTD: Blue

  • TheThriller

    Dirty diapers? Baby craping jalapenos? I love it!!! I’ve never read that in Wine Spectator.

    QOTD: Blue

  • Mudd

    Great info. Thanks Gary.

    QOTD: Dark Green.

  • Cool show today, Gary!

    QOTD: RED RED RED RED RED

  • Mudd

    Great info. Thanks Gary.

    QOTD: Dark Green.

  • Cool show today, Gary!

    QOTD: RED RED RED RED RED

  • OldVinesJim

    Most of the time, the color won’t tell you much, but older red wines do get orange at the edges and you rarely see that in a young red.

    QOTD: Blue

  • OldVinesJim

    Most of the time, the color won’t tell you much, but older red wines do get orange at the edges and you rarely see that in a young red.

    QOTD: Blue

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  • Panoca

    Gary, you know i’m an old fan. This episode, for some reason, brought me a lot of joy. SPECTACULAR EPISODE!
    Congrats Gary, you are consistent as a good vintage port.
    QOTD: Blue!!

  • Panoca

    Gary, you know i’m an old fan. This episode, for some reason, brought me a lot of joy. SPECTACULAR EPISODE!
    Congrats Gary, you are consistent as a good vintage port.
    QOTD: Blue!!

  • Gary, I am officially in love with your new outro: “Whether you like it or not”. It totally sums up the youthful irreverence that makes what you do so great.

    QOTD: black…it’s not that I’m emo, or that it “expresses my soul”…I just think things look good in black. Gadgets, cars, thongs…you know that i mean.

  • Gary, I am officially in love with your new outro: “Whether you like it or not”. It totally sums up the youthful irreverence that makes what you do so great.

    QOTD: black…it’s not that I’m emo, or that it “expresses my soul”…I just think things look good in black. Gadgets, cars, thongs…you know that i mean.

  • Great episode, Gary. Not an issue I think has too much bearing on how I interact with wine, quite frankly, as I think there are too many factors that come into play to make just sweeping statements â?? but still an interesting view, and a good way of addressing this meme.

    QOTD: Depends so much on context… but the verdant green of the hillside in County Waterford or in Anderson Valley really does it for me. Otherwise, that amazing metal-grey the Pacific Ocean gets right before a storm.

  • Great episode, Gary. Not an issue I think has too much bearing on how I interact with wine, quite frankly, as I think there are too many factors that come into play to make just sweeping statements â?? but still an interesting view, and a good way of addressing this meme.

    QOTD: Depends so much on context… but the verdant green of the hillside in County Waterford or in Anderson Valley really does it for me. Otherwise, that amazing metal-grey the Pacific Ocean gets right before a storm.

  • vibemore

    Blue.

  • vibemore

    Blue.

  • Gabriel

    Gary, you need to work on your pronuciation man! Morsianino??? It clearly says Morassino on the label. Usually you do the Italian wines OK but the french needs a whole lot of work.

    Love what you are doing though! Keep it up!

  • Gabriel

    Gary, you need to work on your pronuciation man! Morsianino??? It clearly says Morassino on the label. Usually you do the Italian wines OK but the french needs a whole lot of work.

    Love what you are doing though! Keep it up!

  • wmole

    Wow Jen, thanks for the c/note vid yesterday, I blushed. Love canyon club, are you there each thurs?

  • wmole

    Wow Jen, thanks for the c/note vid yesterday, I blushed. Love canyon club, are you there each thurs?

  • phermented1

    Another great show. I always use color to help determine the wines age but it has to be used in conjunction with the nose, palate, and finish. You can not go by color alone (as you have proved).
    QOTD: Blue

  • phermented1

    Another great show. I always use color to help determine the wines age but it has to be used in conjunction with the nose, palate, and finish. You can not go by color alone (as you have proved).
    QOTD: Blue

  • Medo

    Very nice show Gary! I had an 1995 E & E Black Pepper Shiraz some time ago and it was absolutely amazing!

    QOTD: blue!

  • Medo

    Very nice show Gary! I had an 1995 E & E Black Pepper Shiraz some time ago and it was absolutely amazing!

    QOTD: blue!

  • StaceyS

    I love the big-a$$ glass…what type and brand is it?

  • StaceyS

    I love the big-a$$ glass…what type and brand is it?

  • Jeff

    What a great intro! Nice job, Josh.

    QOTD: Mine’s green too! (Or blue.)

  • Jeff

    What a great intro! Nice job, Josh.

    QOTD: Mine’s green too! (Or blue.)

  • Sassodoro

    I always check out the color of the wines at home, but in most restaurants I can’t even read the menu without a flashlight.

    QOTD: the green of my wife’s eyes and the tortoiseshell of my cat’s fur.

  • talksnmaths

    StaceyS – I’m taking a stab at this, but I think it’s the “Riedel Sommeliers Burgundy Grand Cru” (Item No. 4400/16). http://www.riedel.com

  • Sassodoro

    I always check out the color of the wines at home, but in most restaurants I can’t even read the menu without a flashlight.

    QOTD: the green of my wife’s eyes and the tortoiseshell of my cat’s fur.

  • talksnmaths

    StaceyS – I’m taking a stab at this, but I think it’s the “Riedel Sommeliers Burgundy Grand Cru” (Item No. 4400/16). http://www.riedel.com

  • StaceyS

    Thanks talksnmaths…I appreciate it!

  • StaceyS

    Thanks talksnmaths…I appreciate it!

  • Patrick C

    Gary,

    In regards to color, you forgot to mention/discuss the variances in color depth as pertaining to the meniscus. Within the miniscus you will see and be able to identify whether a wine is young or more aged. This is very important to look at when comparing and assesing a wines age.

    Cheers!

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