EP 290 Does The Color of a Wine Have a Huge Impact on Quality or Age?

A fantastic website I often visit did an interesting article on the color of wine that has gotten a lot of attention on the web so I am here to address it!

Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Domaine Barat Chablis FourneauxChablis
2004 Cascina Morassino Langhe NebbioloNebbiolo d’Alba
2005 Clayhouse Syrah Paso RoblesOther California Syrah/Shiraz
1981 Lopez De Heredia Bosconia Gran ReservaRioja
1996 Clarendon Hills SyrahAustralian Shiraz/Syrah

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  • Patrick C

    Gary,

    In regards to color, you forgot to mention/discuss the variances in color depth as pertaining to the meniscus. Within the miniscus you will see and be able to identify whether a wine is young or more aged. This is very important to look at when comparing and assesing a wines age.

    Cheers!

  • StaceyS

    My favorite color is every shade of blue.

  • StaceyS

    My favorite color is every shade of blue.

  • Deano

    Gary great show it was a learning experience which is sweet.

    QOTD:
    -Green!!!!

  • Deano

    Gary great show it was a learning experience which is sweet.

    QOTD:
    -Green!!!!

  • Thanks again for making another interesting show! I agree that color doesn’t indicate the quality of a wine. However, as you pointed suggested color can give someone clues to a specific wine’s stage of development.

    QOTD: Off the cuff, I typically say blue, but honestly, it’s a difficult question for me to answer because so many colors can bring or reflect so many different things to people. For instance, how many of us have been awestruck by the natural beauty of a sunset, or by the different shades of green and blue the ocean shows, or have been moved by an Impressionist painter’s use of color to express emotion etc…?

  • Thanks again for making another interesting show! I agree that color doesn’t indicate the quality of a wine. However, as you pointed suggested color can give someone clues to a specific wine’s stage of development.

    QOTD: Off the cuff, I typically say blue, but honestly, it’s a difficult question for me to answer because so many colors can bring or reflect so many different things to people. For instance, how many of us have been awestruck by the natural beauty of a sunset, or by the different shades of green and blue the ocean shows, or have been moved by an Impressionist painter’s use of color to express emotion etc…?

  • Great new wine film.

    check it out.

    http://www.virb.com/donandsonsfilms/videos/20806

  • Great new wine film.

    check it out.

    http://www.virb.com/donandsonsfilms/videos/20806

  • Caesar D

    Hey GV,

    Your episode on color was good…but I would argue that it contained some serious flaws. When comparing the color of wines as it pertains to age, you have to compare the same grape type form the same producer (ie: a Vertical tasting of the same wine). In this case, you can see how age affects the color of the wine over time. Comparing color on the 2004 Nebbiolo vs. 81 Rioja was a big boo-boo. Your best comparison, which DID show how color can indicate a wines age is the the 1975 vs. 2005 Chablis.

    Love the Clarendon…
    CDF

  • Caesar D

    Hey GV,

    Your episode on color was good…but I would argue that it contained some serious flaws. When comparing the color of wines as it pertains to age, you have to compare the same grape type form the same producer (ie: a Vertical tasting of the same wine). In this case, you can see how age affects the color of the wine over time. Comparing color on the 2004 Nebbiolo vs. 81 Rioja was a big boo-boo. Your best comparison, which DID show how color can indicate a wines age is the the 1975 vs. 2005 Chablis.

    Love the Clarendon…
    CDF

  • Orion Slayer

    I had a twenty year old wine that had an awesome color at a tasting once. The wine had different flavors than any of the wines I normally drink. The color was very deep yellow and unusual. Color rocks.

    QOTD: Yellow.

    (It’s hard to play fantasy football if you’re a die hard fan like Gary. Try watching a game where you have players on your fantasy football team against your favorite team!)

  • Orion Slayer

    I had a twenty year old wine that had an awesome color at a tasting once. The wine had different flavors than any of the wines I normally drink. The color was very deep yellow and unusual. Color rocks.

    QOTD: Yellow.

    (It’s hard to play fantasy football if you’re a die hard fan like Gary. Try watching a game where you have players on your fantasy football team against your favorite team!)

  • MetalDave

    QOTD: Green

  • MetalDave

    QOTD: Green

  • Susan

    Gary-Great Ep!!!Love the color comparison!!!!!!

  • Susan

    QOTD: Pink!!!

  • Susan

    Gary-Great Ep!!!Love the color comparison!!!!!!

  • Susan

    QOTD: Pink!!!

  • I once had a wine that was yellow with purple polka dots. True story. My Fav color is Dirt.

  • I once had a wine that was yellow with purple polka dots. True story. My Fav color is Dirt.

  • Blue. Sky blue, because God Loves The Infantry!
    I love you, Lt. Gentile.
    Kathleen

  • Blue. Sky blue, because God Loves The Infantry!
    I love you, Lt. Gentile.
    Kathleen

  • BW

    Clayhouse comes from the east side of Paso – very hot & very few quality wines from the east side.
    If you want quality from Paso, you have to seek out the west side wines. They are very different. West side gets the marine influence, cooler temps but still big temp. swings, has the unique calcareous (limestone) soil & generates far superior fruit. East side is mostly bulk growers like Meridian. If you haven’t tried Paso wine, don’t let the Clayhouse review turn you off- seek out the west side & you will be happy – all the big scores from the big reviewers (RP, WS, ST, etc) are all west side wines. Personal favorite producers are Villa Creek, L’Adventure & Denner.

    So, QOTD …. blue is my favorite

  • BW

    Clayhouse comes from the east side of Paso – very hot & very few quality wines from the east side.
    If you want quality from Paso, you have to seek out the west side wines. They are very different. West side gets the marine influence, cooler temps but still big temp. swings, has the unique calcareous (limestone) soil & generates far superior fruit. East side is mostly bulk growers like Meridian. If you haven’t tried Paso wine, don’t let the Clayhouse review turn you off- seek out the west side & you will be happy – all the big scores from the big reviewers (RP, WS, ST, etc) are all west side wines. Personal favorite producers are Villa Creek, L’Adventure & Denner.

    So, QOTD …. blue is my favorite

  • QOTD: blue-gray.

    Gary: It’s pronounced “Claire-en-den”. You do a far better job than I do pronouncing stuff so BIG hypocrite here.

    Day 2 of the Port Request Post-in. Looking forward to a long post run. I’ll wear you out but let’s make it a contest here. 😉

    Sorry for the hard time: good show, nice theme.

  • QOTD: blue-gray.

    Gary: It’s pronounced “Claire-en-den”. You do a far better job than I do pronouncing stuff so BIG hypocrite here.

    Day 2 of the Port Request Post-in. Looking forward to a long post run. I’ll wear you out but let’s make it a contest here. 😉

    Sorry for the hard time: good show, nice theme.

  • WMiree

    The color of a wine has probably misled wine drinkers more than any other characteristic of wine. The lighter shades of Burgundy routinely belie their huge aromatics and staying power of their palate. Certainly the same with Nebbiola based wines. Color does typically accurately gage power and strength in Cabernet for New World wines, but can mislead on Bordeaux. Depth of color can often foretell “over-the-hill” or oxidized wines with white wines, but even here, with dessert white wines, it simply foretells really rich older but fabulous wines. The bottom line is that there is no universal rule about color alone in wine. Any rules are specific to grape type and have to be assessed in conjunction with other factors.

    Glad you tried the Clarendon. I have bought a lot of this wine over the years since 1997, and have tasted all of them only around purchase date. They are killer young, but have always given me a sense of an ability to age well, especially compared to many other Australian Shirazes, whose future prospects are totally oblique to me. I was delighted to hear your glowing assessment of an aging vintage of it.

  • WMiree

    The color of a wine has probably misled wine drinkers more than any other characteristic of wine. The lighter shades of Burgundy routinely belie their huge aromatics and staying power of their palate. Certainly the same with Nebbiola based wines. Color does typically accurately gage power and strength in Cabernet for New World wines, but can mislead on Bordeaux. Depth of color can often foretell “over-the-hill” or oxidized wines with white wines, but even here, with dessert white wines, it simply foretells really rich older but fabulous wines. The bottom line is that there is no universal rule about color alone in wine. Any rules are specific to grape type and have to be assessed in conjunction with other factors.

    Glad you tried the Clarendon. I have bought a lot of this wine over the years since 1997, and have tasted all of them only around purchase date. They are killer young, but have always given me a sense of an ability to age well, especially compared to many other Australian Shirazes, whose future prospects are totally oblique to me. I was delighted to hear your glowing assessment of an aging vintage of it.

  • Billman

    My take: the color differences between ‘different vintages of the same wine,’ or ‘the same wine opened at different ages’ are probably more informative than color differences between unrelated wines.

  • Andrea

    ok, stoopid question from a stoopid person (because now I’m confused): if color is not indicative of quality or age, what is its the significance? visual pleasure?

    qotd: sunsets and blue

  • Billman

    My take: the color differences between ‘different vintages of the same wine,’ or ‘the same wine opened at different ages’ are probably more informative than color differences between unrelated wines.

  • Andrea

    ok, stoopid question from a stoopid person (because now I’m confused): if color is not indicative of quality or age, what is its the significance? visual pleasure?

    qotd: sunsets and blue

  • desmaic

    maybe think about showing the color of the wines by holding the camera above them with a white back drop or a light box setup (only needed with the reds really)…. unfortunatly it is hard to see the true color from the current angle… just a thought…
    love the educational angle of the show… i think it helps get people involved who might otherwise feel intimidated by asking questions…
    keep it up hardcore….

  • desmaic

    maybe think about showing the color of the wines by holding the camera above them with a white back drop or a light box setup (only needed with the reds really)…. unfortunatly it is hard to see the true color from the current angle… just a thought…
    love the educational angle of the show… i think it helps get people involved who might otherwise feel intimidated by asking questions…
    keep it up hardcore….

  • QOTD: I LOVE color! It’s very difficult for me to pick favorites, but I have to go with pink and orange.

  • QOTD: I LOVE color! It’s very difficult for me to pick favorites, but I have to go with pink and orange.

  • cosmo108

    QOTD: Green!

  • cosmo108

    QOTD: Green!

  • Jon B.

    Great episode..Qotd to look at green but to wear red. Catching up on episodes on to friday thanks GV and Wltv crew.

  • Jon B.

    Great episode..Qotd to look at green but to wear red. Catching up on episodes on to friday thanks GV and Wltv crew.

  • Jon B.

    I meangrey to wear

  • Jon B.

    I meangrey to wear

  • Anonymous

    Sweet Ep., big G.

    QOTD: I always liked red when I was a wee lad, and now I am always intrigued by the way light hits a red wine, especially deeper reds with ruby or garnet edges.

  • YoungDave

    Sweet Ep., big G.

    QOTD: I always liked red when I was a wee lad, and now I am always intrigued by the way light hits a red wine, especially deeper reds with ruby or garnet edges.

  • Keith L

    Will have to search for the Nebbiolo today. Thanks for the intro

    Really wanted you to try the 1975 to increase your palate

    QOTD: Blue

  • Keith L

    Will have to search for the Nebbiolo today. Thanks for the intro

    Really wanted you to try the 1975 to increase your palate

    QOTD: Blue

  • QOTD: GREEN

  • QOTD: GREEN

  • Gary! Loving the education aspect of WLTV 🙂 Thanks for yet another awesome episode. QOTD: Royal Blue!

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