EP 591 George Taber Talks Wine and Drinks Some Too!

George Taber stops by the Thunder Show and talks wine and other things.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Chalone Chalone Vineyard ChardonnayOther California Chardonnay
2004 Freemark Abbey Cabernet SauvignonNapa Cabernet

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Luca Bercelli

91/100

line of the day – ‘Preach it George…SAY IT’

The ‘Bottleshock’ guy is a great guest with loads of good anecdotes

Tags: cabernet, california, George Taber, napa, red, review, Video, white, wine, wines

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  • Jess

    Wonderful show, loved George Taber! He was knowledgeable and of great substance.
    QOTD: As long as the wine can be safely preserved, I don’t care what you use to close it. Old habits die hard, and I really enjoy the ceremony of opening a bottle of wine. For this reason, I think synthetic corks are ok.

  • Jess

    Wonderful show, loved George Taber! He was knowledgeable and of great substance.
    QOTD: As long as the wine can be safely preserved, I don’t care what you use to close it. Old habits die hard, and I really enjoy the ceremony of opening a bottle of wine. For this reason, I think synthetic corks are ok.

  • Eddie Brown

    It is impossible to age wine with a screw cap…
    Trace amounts of oxygen is needed to change the chemical balance inside a bottle of wine. Corks are wood, wood is porous, wine bottles “breathe”
    as they sit for several years, Allowing the wine to oxidize slightly over the passing of time that in turn changes the taste and structure of the juice.
    Screw caps are air tight…what you taste now, is exactly what you will taste in ten years. Kinda like a shrink-wrapped twinkie.

  • Eddie Brown

    It is impossible to age wine with a screw cap…
    Trace amounts of oxygen is needed to change the chemical balance inside a bottle of wine. Corks are wood, wood is porous, wine bottles “breathe”
    as they sit for several years, Allowing the wine to oxidize slightly over the passing of time that in turn changes the taste and structure of the juice.
    Screw caps are air tight…what you taste now, is exactly what you will taste in ten years. Kinda like a shrink-wrapped twinkie.

  • Interseting how at the end you said… you, with a little bit of me….and then toatally dissed Mr. Taber…. usually adding your coment, and with guys like this, or and with awesome people like Mr. Taber….but no, you just told him be careful….. LOL

    That’s funny Homey.

    Wish I was giong to SF this weekend. Have fun.

  • Interseting how at the end you said… you, with a little bit of me….and then toatally dissed Mr. Taber…. usually adding your coment, and with guys like this, or and with awesome people like Mr. Taber….but no, you just told him be careful….. LOL

    That’s funny Homey.

    Wish I was giong to SF this weekend. Have fun.

  • SteveC

    QOTD: I prefer corks. The reason for this is because I recycle the bottles, putting my own wine in them. Screw tops are not something the home wine maker can use themselves, as the required machinery is far, far too expensive, so screwtop bottles are useless for recycling.

  • SteveC

    QOTD: I prefer corks. The reason for this is because I recycle the bottles, putting my own wine in them. Screw tops are not something the home wine maker can use themselves, as the required machinery is far, far too expensive, so screwtop bottles are useless for recycling.

  • brorjace

    Pretty good show. QOTD: Screwcap all the way. Corks are nice, and its still fun to pop a cork, but at the end of the day, its nice to know that the wine hasn’t leaked, or made the wine taste like wet cardboard.

  • brorjace

    Pretty good show. QOTD: Screwcap all the way. Corks are nice, and its still fun to pop a cork, but at the end of the day, its nice to know that the wine hasn’t leaked, or made the wine taste like wet cardboard.

  • Keith Brown

    Another very interesting guest! Back in the late 80’s I lived in Sacramento and used to spend maybe a weekend a month wine tasting in Napa. Freemark Abbey was a regular stop. I don’t think I’ve had any of their wines since. Might have to check it out. QOTD: I love, love, love the screw top, or Stelvin Enclosure if you insist). I think I’ve heard several experts say that they actually are better for aging wine than corks. I’ve had a few “corked” wines, and for disadvantages of corks that edges out a close second of being on the road, buying a bottle of wine, then realizing I don’t have a corkscrew. Grrrr!

  • Keith Brown

    Another very interesting guest! Back in the late 80’s I lived in Sacramento and used to spend maybe a weekend a month wine tasting in Napa. Freemark Abbey was a regular stop. I don’t think I’ve had any of their wines since. Might have to check it out. QOTD: I love, love, love the screw top, or Stelvin Enclosure if you insist). I think I’ve heard several experts say that they actually are better for aging wine than corks. I’ve had a few “corked” wines, and for disadvantages of corks that edges out a close second of being on the road, buying a bottle of wine, then realizing I don’t have a corkscrew. Grrrr!

  • Robin C

    QOTD: I probably need to read the book to make an informed decision, but I’m fine with screw tops. I don’t think I’ve ever felt strongly about wine bottle closures.

    Very entertaining show. I like to hear the gossip behind the scenes. I’m looking forward to George’s third book.

  • Robin C

    QOTD: I probably need to read the book to make an informed decision, but I’m fine with screw tops. I don’t think I’ve ever felt strongly about wine bottle closures.

    Very entertaining show. I like to hear the gossip behind the scenes. I’m looking forward to George’s third book.

  • manonthemoon

    Nice show.

    QOTD: Has to be glass closure, easy to pop and can reseal just as easy.

  • manonthemoon

    Nice show.

    QOTD: Has to be glass closure, easy to pop and can reseal just as easy.

  • QOTD: I like the cork.. It’s how I’ve always pictured a wine bottle… I’m not into the “investment” side of wine yet so I drink the wines I buy within the year. So preservation isn’t an issue for me. Been lucky so far with the bottles I’ve ordered, no bad corks!!

  • QOTD: I like the cork.. It’s how I’ve always pictured a wine bottle… I’m not into the “investment” side of wine yet so I drink the wines I buy within the year. So preservation isn’t an issue for me. Been lucky so far with the bottles I’ve ordered, no bad corks!!

  • Anonymous

    Fascinating guest! I’m going to get both of his books.

    QOTD: Screw caps. Especially trying to save half a bottle of left overs- none of that trying to get the quark back in, or using a substitute quark (although I have one from F. Albricht at http://www.thecorker.com that works quite well). And I can’t stand synthetic quarks. A screw cap works 100x better and can’t cost any more than the synthetic piece.

  • David T

    Fascinating guest! I’m going to get both of his books.

    QOTD: Screw caps. Especially trying to save half a bottle of left overs- none of that trying to get the quark back in, or using a substitute quark (although I have one from F. Albricht at http://www.thecorker.com that works quite well). And I can’t stand synthetic quarks. A screw cap works 100x better and can’t cost any more than the synthetic piece.

  • urbwes

    QOTD: screw caps. Every time I open a cork I worry about corkage.

    GV, every time you have a guest you get better and better at the art of collaboration. I think you finally have it mastered.

  • urbwes

    QOTD: screw caps. Every time I open a cork I worry about corkage.

    GV, every time you have a guest you get better and better at the art of collaboration. I think you finally have it mastered.

  • Gary B

    QOTD: I have to go with cork on this one

    Great show Gary you rocked!

  • Gary B

    QOTD: I have to go with cork on this one

    Great show Gary you rocked!

  • Great show. It was like talking to Ben Franklin about the signing of the Declaration of Independence. He was there…history was made! COOL.

    QOTD: My question is this, what’s wrong with cork? It’s historic, an integral and traditional part of opening a bottle of wine, mysterious, somewhat erotic, sexy, gives you something to haremlessly throw at Mott (metal could hurt or damge the lens), makes a great sound as it exits the bottle, makes a cheap bottle of wine seem that much more important, impresses the ladies, a great piece of memorabelia after drinking the wine, collectable, gives you something else to sniffy sniff, etc, etc, etc. Opening wine is a ceremonial act and popping the cork is a huge part of it. VIVA LA CORK!

    JETS: 38 – 9ers: 9 (RICHARD RITTER IS AN ARTIST)

  • Great show. It was like talking to Ben Franklin about the signing of the Declaration of Independence. He was there…history was made! COOL.

    QOTD: My question is this, what’s wrong with cork? It’s historic, an integral and traditional part of opening a bottle of wine, mysterious, somewhat erotic, sexy, gives you something to haremlessly throw at Mott (metal could hurt or damge the lens), makes a great sound as it exits the bottle, makes a cheap bottle of wine seem that much more important, impresses the ladies, a great piece of memorabelia after drinking the wine, collectable, gives you something else to sniffy sniff, etc, etc, etc. Opening wine is a ceremonial act and popping the cork is a huge part of it. VIVA LA CORK!

    JETS: 38 – 9ers: 9 (RICHARD RITTER IS AN ARTIST)

  • LOVED this episode! (even though when I initially saw that is was california again, I was not excited)–I still love the cork…though in the last little bit I’ve opened up a little more to the screw cap….

  • LOVED this episode! (even though when I initially saw that is was california again, I was not excited)–I still love the cork…though in the last little bit I’ve opened up a little more to the screw cap….

  • ScottEJ

    Wow…George is exactly like Gary…only more seasoned. Seriously, it was like an older clone; in a good way.

    QOTD: I’m a cork guy. If not cork: glass. Sorry, but the twist cap just looks cheap. I can’t get around the difference in sexiness.

  • ScottEJ

    Wow…George is exactly like Gary…only more seasoned. Seriously, it was like an older clone; in a good way.

    QOTD: I’m a cork guy. If not cork: glass. Sorry, but the twist cap just looks cheap. I can’t get around the difference in sexiness.

  • J Crazy

    Love the closures. I think wine is much better with them than without.

    I’ve really changed over the past couple few years and find it really interesting to try different wines with different closures.
    Glass is always an interesting one.

  • J Crazy

    Love the closures. I think wine is much better with them than without.

    I’ve really changed over the past couple few years and find it really interesting to try different wines with different closures.
    Glass is always an interesting one.

  • Anonymous

    QOTD: I like the whole process of removing the cork, but screw tops are so much easier and probably safer to cellar. I despise the plastic fake cork, they ruin your lever screwpulls.

    I love George. I used to listen to him on NJ’s radio station 101.5. He was known to sign off by shouting and holding out the word five in 101.F-I-I-I-VE!

    Leaving for San Francisco tomorrow. Unfortunately, won’t be able to attend the Fort Mason tasting. Have a great time. I’ll be in Sonoma and Napa tasting wine all week. Can’t wait.

  • WineWoman

    QOTD: I like the whole process of removing the cork, but screw tops are so much easier and probably safer to cellar. I despise the plastic fake cork, they ruin your lever screwpulls.

    I love George. I used to listen to him on NJ’s radio station 101.5. He was known to sign off by shouting and holding out the word five in 101.F-I-I-I-VE!

    Leaving for San Francisco tomorrow. Unfortunately, won’t be able to attend the Fort Mason tasting. Have a great time. I’ll be in Sonoma and Napa tasting wine all week. Can’t wait.

  • jeff

    Great guest Gary. Looking forward to that bungy jumping link! Saw the morning show – nice work; too bad you didn’t get to finish all the wines. Man that host had a crappy pallate; “tastes like grapes,” WTF!!

  • jeff

    Great guest Gary. Looking forward to that bungy jumping link! Saw the morning show – nice work; too bad you didn’t get to finish all the wines. Man that host had a crappy pallate; “tastes like grapes,” WTF!!

  • Griz4life

    Hoss, another great show. I think George liked to talk about as much as you do? Also, I wasn’t going to get the Christmas secret pack because I got the Thanksgiving, but alas, I bought it. Again, because of stupid shipping laws, I won’t be able to indulge until after the New Year.

    QOTD: Love the screwtops. I’m searching out a bottle with the zork to see what all the hubbub is about, but I did like the episode with the zork.

  • Griz4life

    Hoss, another great show. I think George liked to talk about as much as you do? Also, I wasn’t going to get the Christmas secret pack because I got the Thanksgiving, but alas, I bought it. Again, because of stupid shipping laws, I won’t be able to indulge until after the New Year.

    QOTD: Love the screwtops. I’m searching out a bottle with the zork to see what all the hubbub is about, but I did like the episode with the zork.

  • Marshall

    QOTD:Screwcap all the way!

  • Marshall

    QOTD:Screwcap all the way!

  • Robert Howells

    I don’t give a fiddler’s fart about the closure as long as the wine kicks ass.

  • Robert Howells

    I don’t give a fiddler’s fart about the closure as long as the wine kicks ass.

  • Happy Repeal Day!!! You should have done a Repeal day secret pack so we all could be reminded that wine used to be illegal and be thankful that its not.
    Great show. You are an awesome interviewer, its always a lot of fun to watch the guest stuff. I am eagerly awaiting Georges new book on wine travel. Maybe next Christmas.

    QOTD: I like the natural cork, but dont mind the screw cap. The rubber cork is the worst. I know someone in the fake cork biz, and he talks about how they have chemicals that can sap all the flavor out of the wine. Its like the reverse of a bad natural cork. I try and steer clear of those.

  • Happy Repeal Day!!! You should have done a Repeal day secret pack so we all could be reminded that wine used to be illegal and be thankful that its not.
    Great show. You are an awesome interviewer, its always a lot of fun to watch the guest stuff. I am eagerly awaiting Georges new book on wine travel. Maybe next Christmas.

    QOTD: I like the natural cork, but dont mind the screw cap. The rubber cork is the worst. I know someone in the fake cork biz, and he talks about how they have chemicals that can sap all the flavor out of the wine. Its like the reverse of a bad natural cork. I try and steer clear of those.

  • Herb

    The panicked look on Gary’s face when George called it a “Giants” spit-bucket was hilarious. I was waiting for Mott to bust up laughing.

  • Herb

    The panicked look on Gary’s face when George called it a “Giants” spit-bucket was hilarious. I was waiting for Mott to bust up laughing.

  • Clemclone

    Corks, Corks, Corks!!!
    I hate screw caps. I have over 300 bottles in my cooler and I can’t remember the last “Corked” bottle I’ve opened. Screw caps are made of aluminum and are coated on the inside so the content of the bottle can’t come in contact with the metal. The longer the wine sits in contact with the coating, the better the chance a pinhole leak will let the wine contact the aluminum and taint it.
    If corked wine taste like cardboard, metal tainted wine tastes like…….. Blahhhggg!!!

  • Clemclone

    Corks, Corks, Corks!!!
    I hate screw caps. I have over 300 bottles in my cooler and I can’t remember the last “Corked” bottle I’ve opened. Screw caps are made of aluminum and are coated on the inside so the content of the bottle can’t come in contact with the metal. The longer the wine sits in contact with the coating, the better the chance a pinhole leak will let the wine contact the aluminum and taint it.
    If corked wine taste like cardboard, metal tainted wine tastes like…….. Blahhhggg!!!

  • my first thought when the episode started was ‘who are the gers and why are they dead?’ HAHA!

    great guest! very interesting and he didn’t seem like he was selling me something.

    QOTD: i guess cork? wine bottle+cork=classic.

  • my first thought when the episode started was ‘who are the gers and why are they dead?’ HAHA!

    great guest! very interesting and he didn’t seem like he was selling me something.

    QOTD: i guess cork? wine bottle+cork=classic.

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