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EP 839 Expanding Palates on Passover with New Kosher Wines

Gary tries out 3 interesting Kosher wines that have been getting some buzz around the store just in time for Passover.

Wines tasted in this episode:

Elvi Adar Sparkling CavaSpanish Kosher
2004 Carmel Kayoumi Cabernet SauvignonIsraeli Kosher Wine
Porto Cordovero Vintage Character Port

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luca bercelli

88/100

line of the day – ‘this wine had a good fourth quarter…it was getting ugly there for a second’

pretty lacklustre wines and no Mott…not really a winning combination

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  • QOTD 2: Innocent Bystander Pinot Noir 2008
    Unfortunately most of the wine you review isn't available in Australia, so I was keen to try this when you liked it recently. Also it is Autumn (Fall for you yanks) over here and Pinot Noir is perfect drinking for this weather.
    Oh and the wine rocked by the way, best Pinot Noir I have had recently.

  • paulkochevar

    QOTD1: Have not yet tried Kosher wine as of yet. This show did not inspire…but will keep an open mind (and palate).

    QOTD2: 2007 Marques de Casa Concha Cabernet…deelicioussss! Wow have I had some GREAT cabs lately from Chile and Argentina…for the value I have forgot about Napa for awhile!

  • Lyman

    I noticed your zoom was making a little noise. Hopefully there was only something rubbing against the lens as it was rotating.

    QOTD 1: Not sure what or when but I do know that it failed to impress.
    QOTD 2: Got on a Riesling kick so I have rotated between a 2006 Weingut Reuscher-Haart Kabinett, a J&HA Strub 2005 Kabinett, and a 2008 Ste. Michelle & Dr. Loosen Erioca Riesling. Three different wines and three very different styles. One reminded me of my snow skiing bus that use to take us up to the slopes every Saturday when I was in high school. That bus used to belch out the diesel fumes. One was like licking a blue stone and the other had several things going on plus great acid so it was a pretty good time there for a few days.

  • Gary, if you need some other reviewers for cork'd, I'd be glad to help out. Just signed on an account there about a month ago. Need to see some credentials? Hopefully you can click on my name up there and it will take you to my facebook review page. If not, go to “The Florence Wine Guy (goes to Oregon).” Oh, I do some reviewing…

    QOTD: The last Kosher wine I had was Yarden Chardonnay at the end of last year. Not too bad..

    Oh, I know it isn't Kosher, but once again, I recommend the Casteller Cava. Under $10 and delicious!

  • QOTD1: Had Kosher wine.
    QOTD2: An Arromonte Chilean Pinot Noir

  • QOTD: Borsao Crianza Seleccion 2006. I have a few bottles in my cellar for a few years and opened one last saturday. I was really good, a great garnacha blend full of black fruits, spices, and perfectly balanced with oak. Great wine at @ $15.

  • Anonymous

    That’s just it Castello…it turns out this short but sweet little clip for home business owners will never be seen as it apparently was never saved : )

  • Allan

    Great Show Gary! You're looking good. Charged. In the zone. Telling it like it is.
    Sorry about Mott, get well soon my good man…

    And yes, Lurkers Suck!
    Michelle, link that up!? Where is Mott when you need him?? If Mott had been the linker-upper on this ep, the link would've been there from the get go…! No offense Michelle ; )

    Qotd1: Never.
    Qotd2: 2005 Montecrasto Ribera del Duero. I like-it-alot! 91p. A (in my mind) Great little bottle of wine. Cheers GV.

  • YoungDave

    QOTD 1: Only 1 Kosher wine… EVER! I WILL change that statistic over the next few weeks.
    QOTD 2: Mostly beer this weekend (completely uncharacteristic for me), so there wasn't much to choose from, but the best vino this past weekend: 2005 Jean-Louis Denois Chardonnay “Sainte Marie” VDP d'Oc (Limoux). Solid for the price and holding up well.

  • kasperhip

    Nice show. I really hope you'll bring some more education to the show soon, both on your own and with guests.
    I was wondering about a show about Lalande-de-Pomerol, as this region presumably has serious value compared to the pricey and often overrated wines of Pomerol itself, and to many other regions in bordeaux.

    QOTD: Never.

    QOTD 2: Brunello di Montalcino Principesco coming up this weekend.

  • kasperhip

    Get well soon Mott. We miss you!

  • NJStickist

    Gary,

    Welcome back. Love the tight “old school” shows with maximum content and not a lot of fluff. Don't be so hard on the lurkers. Not everyone has the time and ability to post every day or even every week. Also, I watch on TiVo so unless I have something specific to add, I let it slide most of the time. When I feel I have something important to say, I do log on and post (especially when something from your monthly wine club moves me).

    QOTD1: Have had a Kosher wine before. Bought it by “mistake” in the sense that I didn't know it was Kosher when I purchased it. I can't remember what the wine was, but it was red and “meh”.

    QOTD2: Because of the economy, we're choosing to spend less money and drink more often even if we do suffer a bit on quality. As long as it's palatable, it's “ok”. This weekend we had a Bogle Petite Sirah and it was pretty darn good. I think you reviewed it not too long ago and agreed.

  • “Michelle, I served with Mott. I knew Mott. Mott is a friend of mine. Michelle, you are no Mott.”

    QotD1: No kosher wines, yet.
    QotD2: Had a glass of Avalon Cab Sauv. Meh.

  • Gary,

    Gary,

    QOTD 2, A friend brought over a bottle of Mount Veeder 2003 Cabernet; which was drinking very nicely.

    This would be a good week to review Frost Bitten Ice Riesling if one of those samples is still floating around your office.

  • Anonymous

    I think he should hire flava flave to do an appearance once and a while. The Rock of Vaynerchuk could be a good ratings/interest booster. E-mail me for contract rights and royalties GV; I think we have a winner here.

  • MDSmitty2488

    I have never had a kosher wine before but maybe it's time I try one.

    QOTD: As far as the best wine I had this weekend I would have to say Cesari's Due Torri Pinot Noir Delle Venezie. Not a bad pinot, lots of red fruit on the nose and some spice on the palate. Not the best pinot I ever had but not bad for 12 bones either.

  • Anonymous

    What programs have you been watching?? I understand your desire to mix up his show, but if he got rid of the Jets bucket and tried to spruce up the set with god knows what he would piss a lot more Prime viewers off than he would please. As far as I know there are not that many video wine blogs with thousands of views a day, he must be doing something right.

  • RJurman

    QOTD 1: Have had a few kosher wines but have never been a fan.

    QOTD 2: This weekend had a bottle I have been saving. Clos Des Papes CDP 2005. Was sort of disappointed as it was blown away by a 2006 Bodegas Avanthia (Mencia). Very nice.

  • WineTechie

    QOTD; Nothing special this weekend. I just received St. Supery Cabernet Franc, Petite Verdot, and Merlot that I will be trying the next few weekends.

  • Anonymous

    Hey, were you the dude pouring at Delille with the sweet, generous helpings of the line-up?
    (See my comment below) If so… many thanks!

  • Haha… Yeah, it was probably me. Sorry about the generous pours… When were you in? I happened to be there all weekend but I do vaguely remember someone giving me crap about being a little heavy handed. 🙂

    What did you take home with you?

  • good time frame for a three bottle show.
    passover seder was a nice time last night.

    qotd #1: had numerous kosher wines. it is fun to sneak one in on peeps in a blind game. it is always a mindfuck.

    good idea gettin in on the reviews at cork'd. the content side of that site is fun to check out. i'd be interested in doing it, i drink at least a bottle or two week, and there is a writer on a group blog i belong to that could do you mad justice.

    qotd #2: i drank a bottle or two of that Matassa Cuvee Nouge Blanc 2007, once with some sushi, and then with some freshly caught scorpion grouper, and then again with a vegan potato, fennel, leek gratin. perfect matches each and every time.

  • That’s so crazy… I can’t believe we didn’t talk a little WLTV during the tasting.

    It’s so fun to pour there because everything is so well made. It makes my job easy. Glad you liked it.

  • Phredd3

    Meh. Kosher does nothing for me. Strictly from a wine point of view, it means nothing. Therefore….

    QOTD1: Nope, never had a kosher wine, at least not on purpose. I suppose it is possible I've had one without knowing it. I don't feel like I shouldn't drink them, I just have no reason to seek them out. BTW, kosher as a category like Verdejo makes no sense. If you have a wine from Verdejo, there's a pretty good chance you know soemthing about the wine before you open it. There is a typicity about wines from Verdejo. Kosher is all over the map, and this show illustrates that pretty elegantly. Port, Cabernet, and Cava. What kind of category is that?

    QOTD2: 2007 Domaine St. Pierre Vacqueyras. Too young still, but very delicious. Gonna be hard to sit on these for a couple years.

  • james hill

    yes. barbera and a cabernet from israel.outstanding qpr.

  • Anonymous

    I came in at 3:50 or so on Friday with my girlfriend (very cute, half filipino woman). We appreciated the “heavy-handed”ness because it was like getting two tastings for one fee! Took home two Chaleur Estates and two of the syrahs. I should have tried to bag some of the Rousanne as well, but it wasn’t in the line-up… Anyway, it’s all great stuff.

  • Were you guys the ones from Spokane that are in the orchestra over there? If so, I totally remember. Really glad you enjoyed it. Come back and hang out when you’re in town. Probably have some new releases by then.

    Those, along with the Roussanne, are solid pick-ups.

  • Anonymous

    Yep, that was us: the orchestra-nerds. we’ll definitely be back there before too long. In the meantime, GV should try some of the new releases…

  • bobbytiger

    Nice tan Gary.
    About 4 or 5 decades ago, I recall having 1 glass of Manischewitz. That alone satisfied my need for sugar for several years.
    The CEO of Manischewitz was on the FOX business channel yesterday, and was asked about its sweetness. If I understood him correctly, he said that they had sold the wine portion of the business, while retaining the name only, as they continue to expand their brand to grow the business. Having said that, when I go wine shopping, I really don't differentiate between kosher and non-kosher wines.
    No special wines this weekend. Still looking for a Chardonnay to replace the Farallon CA that stopped production last year. The Edna Valley 2008 didn't do it for me, but a did have a refreshing bottle of Segura Viudas Brute/Cava.

  • lorensonkin

    My problem with Kosher products in general is that they seem to always be higher in price, at least in my market, than comparable products. I don't know if the costs are higher, but I suspect it is because the producers know they have a captive market.

    I have had some good Kosher wines, but never a great one.

    Best wine over the weekend was an 06 Lillian Syrah although it was consumed way too young. It happens.

  • hollisdevillo

    Gustave Lorentz Muscat d'Alsace Reserve.
    great nose, great taste.

  • jeffg

    QOTD2: Sean Minor Four Bears Cab '06. Surprisingly good, interested to try other wines from them.

  • BobbyD

    I'm getting ready to celebrate Easter so I'm not real sure about this but is it fair to compare Kosher wines with the “world” If one has to drink Kosher (oh! n/m!) Had Bonny Doon Syrah this w/e. Interesting “liquid-dirt”! Go UWVa!

  • Never had a Kosher wine as there are about as many Jewish people as there are African Americans in Montana. The only things that are kosher around here are the pickles. Glad to see you didn't take a computer along on your trip, that's always a good idea. Thanks for all you do Gary!

  • Good concept for the show. Too bad the wines didnt show.

    QOTD1: Never had a kosher wine.

    QOTD2: I finished up a bottle of 2007 Vinos de Arganza Bierzo La Mano Mencía Roble last sunday. Didnt have any wine this past week 🙁 Had not been home long enought to open one. But I did enjoy that bottle.

  • Vinvin

    QOTD2: Batard Montrachet Pierre Morey 2002

  • jlilley

    Best wine of the weekend… Sleight of Hand Archimage from Walla Walla.

  • wyotim

    Gary, I have not had a kosher wine and I and I sell wine. I get requests for them from My on Premise accounts this time of year and only this time of year. I do feel that there is a “Manischewitz” effect just as Bonterea has put a negative spin on organic wines.

    QOTD: Revenant 06 Napa, Cabernet, with bacon wrapped steaks on the grill. As the snow in Jackson Hole is finally departing.

  • CharlieTN

    Never had a kosher wine unless I was unaware of its kosher-ness.

    Best wine over the weekend: Radici Mastroberardino Taurasi 2004, 100% aglianico I think. Had it in a restaurant on somebody else's budget. Ripped my face off.

  • Scot McLeland

    To my knowledge I have never had a kosher wine.

  • DCaragher

    GV – Nice show…I haven't had too much experience with Kosher wines, so it's good to learn about. I just need to try some now…

    QOTD: I just drank the 2000 Leeuwin Estate Prelude Chard, which I thought was pretty good. A bit past its peak and a bit oxidized, but all in all I enjoyed it. It went well with some homemade mac & cheese!

    CORKD!
    I'd love to do some reviewing for CORK'D! I will send you an email!

  • johnyhamm

    QOTD: I was invited to a vegetarian bbq so I picked up the 2006 Albrecht Gurwertz to bring along. I don't think it was fully appreciated by all in attendance, but I thought it rocked. I need to learn not to bring wines at that price level to bbq's where not everyone will appreciate them.

  • cellarrat5

    Not a bad idea for a show, Too bad the wines did not stack up for the most part. They actually did better than I thought they were going to do. What Varieties were used in the Port GV? I am somewhat of a port making nerd.

    QOTD 1: No, I don?t believe I have had one before.

    QOTD 2: Our 2009 Verdehlo that we made is really good. We bottled In mid March and it is showing really nicely now. I dare say that we have gotten very close to exactly what we want this Varietal to do.

    St. Amant 2009 Verdelho, 100% stainless, Amador County. brilliant clear light yellow straw color. Nose- Mango, shoulder of pineapple little bit of kiwi. Good mouth feel, very nice acidity. The initial palette I get lemon lime kiwi pineapple juice, very clean and crisp. We were not going for a knock your socks off wine, just a good fresh summer sipper. I am biased, but this is the best I have seen this varietal taste in a while.

  • noahnoah

    Gary,

    I heard via sources that you might be doing a radio talk show on Sirius in the near future ?
    Can you shed some additional light on this ?

    Cheers

  • MadCat

    2004 Quinta Quietud Toro…If you haven't had it, you need to find it! Loved it…

  • kevinjenne

    Hey Gary,
    I went to the Montreal wine show this weekend, made many new discoveries. I found something totaly diffrent, Wines from Tunisa, There is a nice Chardonnay from, “Domaine Clipea” 2009. It turns out they produce great wines but have to price them low because of France having a strong hold on the Market. This wine sells for 11 bones but could sell for more. Cheers Kevin Jenne

  • Scruff

    QOTD: I have had a couple of German Reislings and a Chilean Cab that were Kosher. The latter was not good. The Reislings were enjoyable.

    QOTD2: Only had 2 glasses of this weekend. The Orin Swift Prisoner 2007 was much better than the Siduri Sonoma Coast '08.

  • A_S

    Never had a kosher wine.

    Best wine I had during the weekend was the 2003 Museum Real Reserva Cigales.

  • MikePos

    Only had one wine this weekend, Brewer Clifton Sta. Rita Hills 2007 pinot. Very good.

  • Anonymous

    You have redeemed yourself. Now I can buy wine and get an education without feeling guilty for not chiming in on all these cryptic inside jokes.

    Seriously – Love and Respect

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