EP 859 Tasting with Michael Twelftree of Two Hands Wines – Part 2

Concluding the tasting with Gary Vaynerchuk and Michael Twelftree, the co-owner of Two Hands Wines.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2008 Two Hands Bella’s Garden Barossa Valley Shiraz
2007 Ares Barossa Valley Shiraz


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luca bercelli

90/100

The guest’s wine knowledge is pretty catholic, and he’s a good guy but, as if the first part he’s boring as hell. And what’s with his ‘Vander nation’ quip. It’s Vayner Nation bro

Tags: Australian, Barossa, red, review, shiraz, Video, wine, wines

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  • P.S. Gary, quit biting your nails. 🙂

  • Todd Templeman

    QOTD; Im so new to wine, that this question almost doesn't apply. I can say that the things i like about Australian wines that tasted good to me was the dirty thickness, gritty with substance. My most moving shiraz experience is a 1998 The Dead Arm. That bottle really made me want to get to know the regions. Some shiraz i have had is to sweet with fruit and the oak, which is not appealing. But again i have tasted very little down under.

  • JonathanAlfaro

    Gary, I really love when you have guests, especially those who really know about wine. It's nice to get to know the people behind the label. I learn so much more when I hear their “story” rather than just getting tasting notes.

    I have really enjoyed the last several shoes. Keep bringing the Thunder!!!

  • JonathanAlfaro

    LOL! I can't type today. I meant “shows” not “shoes”. It's obviously time for a drink!

  • smiledoc

    QOTD….bring the thunder with an under $40 wine, thanks, (hilarious…solo hangman!)

  • Ozzy

    Great show and guest GV. Micheal really knew his stuff and it was fun to watch someone with great knowleagde of Aussie wines.

  • DAveAll

    good 5 of 5 episode, oh, was it only 2? smile.

    QOTD: I moved away from Australia wines cause they were so popular and I don't jump on bandwagons, but seek other paths. Not in conversation, just to please myself. And haven't had a Shiraz in over a year from anywhere. To me, it's like Merlot. Just not interesting to me. But I love Australia, been there several times – love the people and the terrain. As I say at my winery, you don't have to like our wines, just like us! smile.
    So to reconnect, you'll need to advertise as a country, not as each brand, to educate us that there is much adventure in wines of Australia. and don't lead with Shiraz. IMHO

  • cpal

    Yet another fabulous guest. I miss the GV ratings but understand. Really good pair of shows and his enthusiasm and passion make him a tremendous brand advocate.

  • scottEJ

    Thanks guys. Very informative show. Thanks for letting us in. Did Michael say he had ONLY 2 out 36 wines tasted that were corked? Those are terrible odds.

    QOTD: I like Aussie wines. I'm just finding less qpr from them these days. Plus, I'll usually bypass screwcap wines. Just a preference.

  • Braden G

    Awesome series GV – outstanding guest with a mission to re-align the worlds thinking on Aussie wines.

    QOTD – Export more from small producers (to Canada) rather than the big three that you spoke of. I would way rather have pancakes and bacon at Ruth's Downtown Diner than at IHOP becuase it will come with a little personality and that is exactly what I think of when I make my wine purchasing decisions.

    I don't really care what the alcohol content is as long as the wine does not taste like a grape crush with a triple shot of vodka (not that there's anything wrong with that).

  • Braden G

    Dead Arm changed my life. I have a couple bottles of '05 tucked away in my cellar to be forgotten about for a while.
    A couple years ago a customer was kind enough to give us a magnum of 1998 Fox Creek Reserve Shiraz to enjoy with our company Christmas dinner at Ruth's Chris and it was also unbelievable. There are definitely some diamonds in the rough.

  • agentorange

    Thanks guys, nice work.

    Cheers.

    QOTD: Less oak.

  • laurieinvt

    Great two-parter. Thanks Michael and Gary!
    QOTD: Educate the rest of the world about the many different regions and varietals in Australia and then get them exported (especially the the non-big-three producers). Also work on QPR.
    We are really looking forward to our tasting group on the 15th focusing on what Australia has to offer (started planning it two or three weeks ago, so these episodes were terrific!)

  • yacochuya

    While I have not had tons of Australian wines I am a HUGE fan of 2 hands gnarly dudes and have some bottles in my collection. Went wine tasting in hunter and Mclaren, but it was before I was into wine and when it was all about getting drunk.

    QOTD: Need the great Australian producers to show their stuff. Preferably the wine makers coming to USA to show off their juice at local wine tastings at shops (very common here in Miami where we get a lot of not only USA producers, but Italian/French/etc winemakers at the winetasting). Realize it aint a short trip, but I think it would be quite beneficial in the long run, especially in the big wine cities like Miami. Having the distributors opening the good bottles, followed by the wine shops. I got turned on on 2 hands (that sounds a little strange) at a local wine tasting that opened a bottle for tasting. The more we taste, the more chances our palates may gravitate down under.

  • castello

    QOTD I think it's hard to compete with other wines. You've got to go large to send it half way around the world! Love some Aussie wines but the good ones are pricey.
    Great show, get in here Michael and talk to us.

  • JasonGonzales

    QOTD: I've never had an Australian wine… :/ I'll try one soon. I'm new to wine so I'm kind of playing catch up.

    GARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    IT'S MY BIRTHDAY TOMORROW. CAN I GET A BIRTHDAY SHOUT OUT? THAT WOULD MAKE MY LIFE!

    Thanks for everything you do. Happy Birthday Lizzie!

    Jason

  • NIB

    Wow,another unbelievable great show. I have been drinking Two Hands for about 5 years and they are yummy.I actually had the 2003 Ares about six months ago and I would have to say it was easily in my top five favorite wines of all time, I just wish I could actually afford to buy some…lol.

    Good on ya mate, you make some incredible wines!!!

    QOTD:I have always loved Australian wines, so for me, you don't have do anything.But As far as everyone else out there, I think people pay way to much attention to what critics say, and not enough to their own pallet.I think people just need to appreciate it for what it is, which is delicious bold beautiful wines.I suppose you could get with Gary and throw down some wine to put on Cindy, maybe more people would get a chance to give it another shot if they have become disenchanted about Australian wines.

  • larbear

    My firsat GSM was an Aussie wine and I loved it. When I was told that GSM blends came fro mFrance I looked for them but I like the Aussies better. I love the Two Hands wines and I already am connected. My theory, about Aussie negativity, is that it is driven by the fact that there is allot of good wine available at reasonable prices. There is some kind of a cycle in play here that is working against the better, more expensive wine producers like Two Hands. To break that cycle I will replenish my cellar with some more.

  • larbear

    I also agree. How much effort does it take to look for a wine speciality store. I have about fifty here in Southern California.

  • orangebottle

    Wow, love this show. Michael knows what he wants in the bottle. He is so honest and knowledgeable about wine making. An Australia wine should taste like Australia wine and let the juice do the talking. I like how he talked about the selection method. It is tedious but what a great result. Great great show Gary. I need to watch it again to absorb…
    qotd: i think you are doing it. i like Aussie wine taste like where it is from. Not a copycat of other regions. great show. I just went out and bought your 2008 Gnarly Dudes.

  • WineWoman

    Very educational and enriching show.

    QOTD: Used to drink a lot of Aussie wines–several varieties and producers. Prices have gone up a lot since then. Don't always like to drink huge, bombastic wines that don't pair well with food(maybe Steak), not to say all are like that, but a large percentage are.

  • Randall

    ?????? 🙁

  • Randall

    Man, are you ever missing out!! Get crackin', mate!!

  • dsallen

    Man, now I want to go out and try more Australian wine! Great show; learned a lot!

    QOTD: I think this show is a good example of how to do it.

  • Anonymous

    Please name a couple.

  • Anonymous

    😉

  • jason carey

    The problem with cork is not even so much TCA it has more to do with the problems with inconsistent Oxy permeability. Check out this month's Wine Spectator to see the comparison. ITs time to get over cork and move to stelvin or something new. Synthetic corks are even worse than cork, especially Normacork

  • Randall

    Of course, it can't be because we make some good juice out here in Cali. 🙂 No really, I see your point and love all kinds of red and white Aussies and have to agree that many Oz distributers, producers, conglomerates, etc have seemed to just “play it safe” w/the “usual suspects” in the hopes of “making a bundle”. (ok… “Enough!!”) And It's way encouraging to hear that you don't come in w/a lot of preconceived notiions about Aussie wines. But while relying on a winery's Facebook page is a start, it can lead to more of the same mega brands that we've seen for the past decade or so. Nothing beats a good old fashioned TASTING!! That said, I would love to see ALL small wineries and breweries put out MASSIVE info on the web!! It would make all our lives so much easier!!

  • murso

    Thanks Mr. Twelftree!
    I'd first encountered part of your line-up around 2004-2005, when my colleague brought them to my retail dept. upon tasting them (on my day off – it happens to each of us, regularly). He modestly brought Angel's, and Gnarly, but knew we had customers for Ares, which was very limited. It was the one w/ ridiculous Parker points. Our rollers bought some, and sure, and sadly enough, one came back, corked. Our carrier, of course, handled it correctly, and efficiently. No worries, then!
    When I, later that season, got to taste a braod selection from your line-up, it was Bella's, and Max's that leapt out at me as standouts. Standouts among a real solid lineup! I continue, in a new state, with an even broader selection of your outstanding wines, and a clientele, which I'm still growing into, but happy that you're here, with us! Keep up the great work, mate!
    QotD – You got one o' them Croc Dundee knives to kill a kangaroo with? Don't hesitate to use it! Fair dinkum!

  • This guy is just…. AWESOME! Gary, you're like alcohol in his wine, he's able to keep you in line and express himself like the rest of the wine!

    Now, the QotD: I really can't ask anything more from Two Hands, but for the rest of the wineries, it's a long way up as the mass produced junk has done a considerable toll to the image of Australia.

  • Mr Telftree representing Australia! Good show, great guest, entertaining and educational. Barossa Shiraz at its finest when it is in balance.

  • Great guest/two-parter. Keep on making wine the way you do, and join with other producers of the same mindset. Keep on fighting the good fight.

    QOTD: Diversify. It's not that I don't love a lot of Aussie Shiraz or Cab…I would like to see more of the Hunter Valley Semillon or other varietals.

  • GFish

    GV – Great guest Mr Twelftree and I look forward to trying your wines. Keep fighting the good fight!

    QOTD – My thoughts; to reconnect with the public the winemakers need to keep working with integrity. I think Aussie winemakers have figured out that a certain style carried to the extreme is not seen as very good by the wine buying public. Some winemakers may continue to push that bolder up the hill but less of them are sticking to that. Good winemakers whose wines have integrity will outlast the negative backlash and low point of trendiness. If wines are great, the prices are reasonable and the knowledge is out there consumers will comeback and rediscover what they liked about the wine in the first place. If 2009 and 2010 live up to their potential and the winemakers do a good job I think Aussie will come back strong in the market.

    GFish – Peace and Jets

  • mattgmann

    Seems lately the shows and guests get better and better, but the comments get fewer. WTF lurkers? We've got to keep this board alive if we expect GV to keep rollin! C'mon y'all, keep GV pumped so we can keep enjoying the show.

  • theDude

    “Come on in the waters fine.”

    GV….how much have you had to do with the “bandwagon” being for or against Aussie wines? Who drives this damn wagon anyway?

    My advice: if you like a wine, drink it. If you don't like it, give it to your jerk brother-in-law.

  • theDude

    Suck up 🙂

  • mattgmann

    Half a bottle of Glen Morangie and some enthusiasm talking 🙂

  • theDude

    Nice! We just got home from dinner with friends. Ended the night with some Godiva White Choc liqueur. Haven't had any for a long time. Man that sh*t is tasty!!!!

  • John Rogers

    Great show enjoyed the interaction between Michael and Gary. After watching both episodes, I intend to give them (Australian wines) another try but at a higher price level.
    I kind of got burnt out a few years back drinking their wines.

    QOTD; I don't know what it will take but doing shows like Gary V. can only help.

  • waynoooo daaaaa winoooo

    Or send it ta meee, i'll drink anything…….. :O)

  • chukheadted

    QOTD–this is a very good, practical question.

    I think american consumers are looking for a step back from high alcohol, high oak, and over-the-top wines. Do that while still showing the essence and terroir of australia and many will be pleased.

    Also, branding aussie wines could use improvement. Many napa cabs are just as high alcohol/fruit-bombish but the “napa” brand is much stronger in the us.

  • YoungDave

    PHENOMENAL end of a solid special guest two-parter. Love two hands, and their picture series does actually bring value to the table- especially the Angel's Share Shiraz, year after year.

    QOTD: I'd like to see more producers picking before the grapes are over-ripe on the vine to retain a bot more acidity, and to use restraint with new oak in the winery to let the US wine drinkers taste the essence of the place… as well as a breaching of the gap between the damn-pricey blockbuster wines at one end of the spectrum and the cheap juicy wines at the other end that…frankly… aren't always monumentally different.

  • castello

    I only drink 99 pointers from GV. Are there any? Ok send me some brother in law wine tooooooooooooooooooo

  • castello

    I want some Morangie right about……..NOW!

  • castello

    I think you are correct. Too much of the junk from down under.
    I'm trying to sober up to read Murso's comment.

  • castello

    Murso, we've missed you.

  • castello

    And read some comments on the show! How old are you?

  • I don't know if you could get these in the US, but some really cool Aussie wines are Samuel's Gorge (Mc Laren Vale), Grenache, and Tempranillo, Jim Barry (Clare Valley) Rieslings, Oliver's Taranga ( Mc Laren Vale), Grenache, Cab Sav and Shiraz…. ohh there is so much stuff.. Margaret River, Coonawarra… its a whole wine world by itself down there!

  • Cubatobaco (Ray)

    I haven’t emailed GV about it, but would love to break out some great smokes for an episode. The Padron idea would be great. Here is something I was thinking: I’d be willing to break out, say, some ’70’s Davidoff Chateau Haut Brion’s and pair with the like Bdx. Maybe a 1994 Partagas Serie D#4 with a 1994 Dow. To me, there is nothing better than aged Cuban cigars with well aged wine/port/cognac.

    Maybe we should pitch the idea, together!

  • Cool_Dave

    Gary and Michael, great show!!!
    QOTD – I would like to see Australia stay true to itself. Bugger the wine nazies. I always loook for something different in wine. I think Australia rocks because they are not trying to be French as much as many American producers are. I love French wine but you all know the deal. It is what it is.
    I am definately going to get my hands on some Hands.

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