EP 898 Chocolate and Wine Pairing

Gary Vaynerchuk sits down with Adeline Rem from chocbite.com to explore some interesting chocolate and wine pairings, including a sparkling wine, a Brunello, and a red dessert wine.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2002 Gloria Ferrer Royal CuveeDomestic Brut Vintage
2004 La Gerla Brunello Di MontalcinoBrunello di Montalcino

Vinedo De Los Vientos Alcyone TannatUruguay Dessert Wine

Links mentioned in todays episode.


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Tags: Brunello, brut, red, review, sparkling, Tannat, Video, wine, wines

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  • robbiec

    I live in China and I just had my first cicada (yeah, that noisy insect) about a week ago…tasted like popcorn.
    They also have fried scorpions around here…I think they taste like potato chips.
    Cheers to the vayner nation… I haven’t posted in a long time.

  • Domeire

    Going against the grain.

    I have worked with chocolate and in the wine business both for quite along time in production side and also in sales to say that I am well experienced in both.

    I just find that the chocolate and wine don’t go well together, maybe some fortified wines can work but normal red, rose, white or bubble wines I find just don’t work well with choclate.

    One always dominates the other one. I see one of the big problems being that chocolate has a certain amount of vegetable oil/coca butter and this doesn’t do any favours to the wine.

    I have even made and tried choclates with wine fillings.

    Intresting show though. I will drink my wine and eat my choclate separately.

  • Oakmon’s BF

    Where?s Dr. Demento, I mean Edwardo? He?s the one I expected to be counting down the guest episodes.

  • Yummm… LOVE ChocBite! My fave is lemon and sea salt with milk chocolate. YUmmmm!

  • I can relate to that , but I do find that people that try chocolate and beverages often can find good pairings. All palates are different. In cooking the rule about dessert is the beverage should be sweeter then the pudding, that goes for chocolate to. What we call white chocolate almost never sits well with red wine, 9 out of 10 of my customers at chocolate tastings don’t like it when the chocolate is sweeter than the wine. A fortified sweet wine goes much better. A dark chocolate say 70% cacao count gives the number 6 out of 10 liking it with a red wine,a sweeter character of the wine or the more oaked (vanilla) the better the pairing. But I agree it is hard to find really good pairings for different chocolates.

  • Anonymous

    Great guest, I feel like she was telling it like it was and I appreciated that.

    QOTD: I love food too but I haven’t had the opportunity to go really outrageous yet. I would have to say the most outrageous thing I’ve ever eaten would be an ostrich fillet (even thought that’s not very outrageous).

  • Anonymous

    98% of all facts are made up.

  • A_S

    QOTD: nothing special, just a couple of ants. Nice acidity by the way.

    I love white chocolate, I think it’s underrated.

  • Anonymous

    GV – Great show, I love chocolate and I love wine! BANG! Check out the Portugal wines with chocolate! Especially the Quinta Do Crasto Old Vines Reserva!

    QOTD: I would have to say Aligator!

  • Thanks Candy!

  • W_F

    QOTD: Balut x 2, when I made Chief Petty Officer in the Navy in 1989. A balut is a fertilized duck or chicken egg with a nearly-developed embryo inside. Didn’t enjoy the beak or feathers.

  • FOFLMAO

  • If you like salt and you like chocolate then you will LOVE them together! You are super brave with your eating, RESPECT!

  • I really don’t know why I did it (with the bug eating), I guess that I just wanted to see if I could! The testicles are really delicious though (if you can get over thinking about what you are eating). They are tender and tasty, almost like a rib eye steak.

  • That is great chocolate too! Working on shipping in other countries, where are you located?

  • scottEJ

    Big fan o’ the cocoa. Here in Chi. there’s a company called Vosege (sp) that make some reallly good choco. combo’s, ie: indian spices, bacon, himalayan sea salt, etc. A little pricey, but, nice indulgence. I’m nore of a cheese and wine pairing person that the choco., but, can sometimes get it; especially the sparkling that can cut thru the richness.

    QOTD: I have the same live shrimp in Japan. Nothing too fresh for that country. I’ve also had some raw squid with the ink pouch still in tact. That was a little off-putting, but, I was being challenged by my bro-in-law, so you know how that goes.

  • Why on earth would you eat Taco Bell for three weeks???? 🙂

  • Yes, my family all got out, amazingly, it was a bad situation! Thanks for the good vibes!

  • Working on going international, where are you? Thanks for the 93+ points, SWEET!

  • Even though you are an Android lover, conservative eater and white wine drinker, I still love you Ricci!

  • Thanks!!!

  • Bone Marrow is one of my absolute favs! I forgot abou that! In Palm Springs I went to a restaurant that served three bone with the marrow and a tiny spoon, it was the BEST!!!

  • Am I invited to your wine and chocolate night??? Which studio?

  • Thanks Orange Bottle, I love my logo too! What is the thousand year old egg? How does it smell and taste? Where did you eat it?

  • We do both love salt though!

  • Our CHOCteam is putting the bars together for you, can’t wait for you to try them, thanks!

  • Side QOTD: Let’s see. PB and Fluff sandwiches, Stacy’s Pita Chips, Swedish Fish. Nothing healthy in that list like Tomato! I can eat tomatoes till the end of time. It’s usually junk food that I obsess about for a few months before giving it up. Oh, Panera Bread. There was a time when I first discovered Panera that I would go once a week….you pick 2, caesar salad and broccoli cheddar soup. thanks.

    Actual QOTD: I had snails in Barcelona once, which is a traditional Catalan dish, not Spanish. The snails are small, the size of a marble, cooked with tons of salt. You get a special fork to pull the snail out of the shell and a dipping sauce. Honestly, I didn’t like them, but for me it was a texture thing not a flavor thing. If you want to know more have google translate this page:
    http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caragols_a_la_llauna

  • I find the nice thing about chocolate is that it melts in your mouth so you can savor it. Wine cools my mouth down enough that it is annoying when I eat the chocolate because the chocolate does not melt as easily.

    I too will keep them separate.

  • My favorite combo…dark chocolate with bit of chili’s. Yum!

  • Anonymous

    I’ve had fried scorpions, but not chocolate covered. I’ve also never had turtle, and I don’t know what kind of snake I had, but pretty much everything else on that list. Most of it is quite tasty, actually.

  • Sara Salcedo

    QOTD: I am from Colombia and we eat what we call big butt ants, we roast them and salt them sort of like penuts!!

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, and I love it. Whenever I see them being sold in the Asian markets I buy one even if they’re frozen and not as quite good. And yes, they reek up a storm. They are something that some people really dislike and some people love fervently, so much so that there are laws all over southeast Asia that you can’t take them in enclosed spaces like taxis or elevators. Personally, I love the smell, and the taste, and that creamy texture. It’s not so much an acquired taste as it is something you will love or hate.

  • Adeline, I loved your show about your Choc Bite chocolates and trying
    them with different wines. Wonderful combinations. Buy her chocolates !

    They are wonderful !

    Greg Logsdon, Gregory’s Interiors

  • My favorite chocolate is the really dark with jalepeno salt and almonds. Too yummy!! Loved the show.

  • John__J

    qotd: Had jellyfish at a Korean place, and had Scorpion on shrimp toast last year at some restaurant located at the Santa Monica airport. My only regret is not trying the seaworms while I was there.
    I really wanna try a wine from Reunion. That Island a few hundred miles away from Madagascar that’s a territory owned by France. It’s listed as #70 in Wikipedia’s top wine producing countries, you can see for yourself-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_producing_countries

  • Lurker Berserker

    Very refreshing show – I’d love to see more like it. Food & wine are so fantastic together – you and your lovely guest touched upon the countless combination possibilities that exist with her chocolate. As you know, that is nothing compared to the pairing potential out there in the broader category of ‘food’. So, your guest is a trip – she seems like she’d be a lot of fun to hang out with. Kudos to you for being such a comsummate professional – if it were me, I’d be over-endulging on all the food and the great wine – I wouldn’t spit nearly as much as you do.

    QOTD: It isn’t so much a food as it is a drink that I’ve had too much of and got sick of – its soda. I haven’t had soda for quite some time but I used to drink it all the time. (I did have the ‘tequila experience’ about 17 years ago and haven’t touched it since).

    Adeline’s QOTD: Bird’s nest soup (gross)

    P.S. – You’ve made reference more than once to “marzipan fruit” – fyi (with all due respect), marzipan is not a fruit. According to Wikipedia, it is a confection consisting primarily of sugar and almond meal.

  • As sweet as the guest (and topic) may be, it’s nevertheless a guest episode and I’m PPPPPPPAAAAAZZZZZZIIIIIINNNNNGGGGG, sight unseen.

    Hopefully, only 4 more guest episodes this year.

  • How about a Wine Library, Gourmet Library and CHOCbite party???

  • Christine

    I often deny myself dessert–especially if I’ve indulged in wine?but 50 calories of a quality chocolate paired with a great wine, I think I?m sold.

  • Anonymous

    Good guests rock the house! If you skip it you’re not getting your monies worth. Whose show is it?

  • Anonymous

    Excellent show, very enjoyable and informative. And what guy among us doesn’t love a woman with a British accent. I will have to check out her website. The products sound very interesting. And props to GV for actually letting his guest talk without interrupting too much. Nice job!

    Now as for chocolate, to me, white chocolate isn’t chocolate and I really don’t like milk chocolate very much any more. I love good dark chocolate that is 60-70% cacoa. Dark chocolate and red wine, or even better, vintage Port, is a wonderful thing IMHO.

    QOTD: I’m really not that exotic as far as food goes, although I do love a wonderful gourmet meal. I have eaten crocodile, emu and kangaroo in Australia. I’ve had chocolate covered ants, but that’s the only bugs that I’ve intentionally eaten.

  • Thanks! If you ask my family in England, they would say that I sound totally American!!! Can you believe that? We have CHOCdark which is 56% and the CHOCblack which is 72% available, they are both really great. Could you actually taste the ants inside the chocolate? Were they crunchy??

  • We are going to have CHOCbites soon (the actual pieces of chocolate rather than a full bar)!! So the bar will be for gifts and the pieces for us!

  • Teresa

    Loved your interaction with Gary, particularly regarding sparkling wine!. Great job, looking forward to trying the chocolate and salt option 🙂

  • Thanks! My face is priceless with the sparkling wine!

  • Charlie Clarke

    Gary is trying to remake to wine world into something more approachable and less pretentious, but it sounds like you’d like to push the chocolate world in the exact opposite direction.

  • Allan

    What’s the big news, and when will we be informed??

    MY GAWD, 900, can YOU believe it??

    😉

  • drink the wine at room temperature just as the chocolate or let the wine also be heated up by your mouth, who says one have to swallow right away 🙂

  • LurkerKing

    Lurker Berserker I like I like. Lurkshow mafia 1 up.

  • LurkerKing

    lurkers unite!

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