EP 928 Wine & Spirits Top 100 Wines of 2010 – Part 2


Gary Vaynerchuk and Josh Greene, editor of Wine & Spirits conclude the tasting of the Top 5 Wines of 2010.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2007 Hirsch Vineyard Pinot Noir
1987 Lopez De Heredia Tondonia Rioja Reserva
2007 Domain Leflaive Batard-Montrachet

Links mentioned in todays episode.


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luca bercelli

87/100

Thank god for Gary Vaynerchuk!
This guest might be the best guy in the world but boy, is he boring. Unlike our man, he comes across as elitist, and definitely someone I wouldn’t want to get stuck in a bar with. Makes me appreciate GV all the more.

Tags: burgundy, review, Riesling, Rioja, Video, white, wine, wines

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  • Anonymous

    FIRST!!!!

  • Tom T.

    Second!

  • Anonymous

    back from lurker town. looking forward to part 2

  • Toke-Dawg

    4. Back from lurking for too long. Mott, you need to correct where it says the Rioja is a Columbia Valley red.

  • Tofferotti

    No. 5? NIce to be in early. Love any show with Lopez Heredia.

  • Anonymous

    G, I know exactly what you’re talking about. I constantly ask my wine guy for wines with power that aren’t too heavy or full bodied. It’s what I like about most of my favorite wines.

  • Anonymous

    QOTD: I only ever look at the alcohol content on the bottle if I taste the wine and feel like it’s out of balance. I think high alcohol bothers me much more on the nose than the pallate.

  • Missed u!

  • murph

    QOTD: I rarely if ever consider ABV as a purchase factor but I actively seek out styles of wines that are food friendly so I seem to nearly always find myself drinking low ABV wines – Sancerre, Riesling, red bordeaux, white and red burgundy with food without really making a conscious decision about it – maybe it’s the balance. I also tend to drink higher ABV wines without food like US cabs and zins, Priorat and Malbec etc

  • Pfew, learned a lot today 😉 and kind of a mouthwatering episode. Jealous of you guys, would have definitely swallowed the Leflaive.

    QOTD: I guess for me: 95% low alcohol (11-14% max). I like a lighter and more balanced style and I often find myself looking for the percentage when I am tasting because I am annoyed by all the alcohol.

  • What a thoughtful and outstanding guest!!! This was a great show because you (Gary) really refrained from interrupting–which as much as I love this show and your style, makes me cringe every time there is a guest. Good restraint and an ABSOLUTELY AMAZING SHOW!

    QOTD: I rarely check the alcohol by volume when selecting a wine from a shop or vineyard. I have been spoiled by wines that are well integrated, not leaving the cloying heat from too much alcohol or missing body with low levels. I would say that I favor both camps, depending on my mood and the food I will be pairing. However, if the alcohol is too high, like 17% on a red from Italy that was recently recommended, I will begin to comb the aisles for another selection that maybe less extreme, when the sales person has left.

    I enjoy low level alcohol Rieslings (6%) to the higher levels in California Zinfandel (15.4%). A wide range.

    On the side: Have not been lucky enough to have the big white burgundies but aspire to! Damn that seemed divine.

    Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    Amazing show!

    I consider alcohol levels very important in a wine and more often than not I choose lower levels. I think it is just awesome to taste a great bottle of wine of older vintage and latter notice it is only 11.5 or 12.5 % Vol.

    The other they I had a Tyrrel’s Hunter Valley Semillon from 2002 that was only 11% Vol. The balance and the persistence of the wine were fabulous! You don’t need alcohol to make a wine great!

    I hope producers start minding about that more and more.

  • c-daddy

    I don’t look at the alcohol content at all but I don’t like the heat from it. I would rather the wine have less alcohol because that means I can drink more of it.

  • Anonymous

    So Gary got the email. I’ve been off the map for a long time big change in my life in the last couple of months. They took the bayou boy out of the bayou and put him in law school at University of Maryland. so that has been very busy. I have been checking in on you and catching episodes here and there. I honestly meant to comment or shoot you an email and talk a little Who Dat smack and see if you wanted to wager anything on the potential Saints repeat. Did catch all the brown bag specials last week loved em gonna get that Oyster Bay PN tonight. Anyhow congrats on the upcoming 5 years and keep doing what you do cause you got this frat boy off cheap beer and into finding good value wine
    I appreciate it.
    Cheers,
    Matt

  • Matty thnx so much for stopping by 🙂

  • Zino

    Wow. Love to have tasted those.
    QOTD: I prefer the 12 – 13.5% range, with whites, even lower sometimes. I find when it gets to 14.5%+ the alcohol overpowers the wine, even the big ones and off course you can’t drink much of it. I like to enjoy a glass or two without being intoxicated.

  • Anonymous

    Absolutely great 2 episodes. One thing I would have liked would be for you to have listed all of the wines you tasted. I can get the articles but would still have to figure out what you tasted from them. Will go back and make notes. As to alcohol, it really depends if I am drinking wine by itself, a rarity or having it with a meal and it depends on the meal. I don’t like 14-15% Chardonnay with fish as it kills the taste. On the other hand, Elk short ribs will benefit from massive tasting wines with high alcohol. I drink a lot of port that is very high alcohol so the simplistic question is impossible to answer.

  • passion4wine

    Great information-
    I enjoy a wine that is 13.5 the most… I feel the flavors more. I do drink the 14.5 and enjoy them.. but after killing the bottle you can sure feel the difference. If I feel like a higher alcohol content I will reach for a satisfying glass (or two) of port.
    Thanks for the great show Gary and Josh!

  • BT

    QOTD: I prefer lower alcohol, but how much?! As long as the wine don’t give me the “hot” feeling, when I feel the “hot”, I think that’s too much of alcohol. I guess <13%

  • Anonymous

    I couldn’t even pay attention to anything for the last 6 minutes of the show….you spit out a $400 bottle of wine….something is SERIOUSLY wrong with you.
    QOTD: generally 12 to 13%….seems like higher can’t control the alcohol taste and lower….well, I’d have to open a second bottle and then hear grief from the wife. (unless I spit it out every time…then none of it really matters, does it?)

  • QOTD: Alcohol is not a question, the style and smell/taste and cirqumstance is the matter. Sure I like a 16% spanish mega blast , but also 12,5% Bordeaux to the roast dinner. The worst scenario is when the alcoholc comes through to strong. Me not like, that just as I don’t like the alcohol taste of a vodka or a whiskey

  • HAHAHHAHA sorry BobbyX

  • NY Pete

    hey hey

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the email GV…really glad I caught this episode! I feel like flying out there next week to “help” you re-taste!
    QOTD: I prefer 12.5% or less

  • Anonymous

    Excellent show! If I had 5 thumbs, they’d all be up……but I only have 2.
    QOTD…If I wanted high alcohol, I’d drink vodka. The wines I’ve made and enjoy the the most are lower in alcohol maxing out at about 12~ 12.5.

  • NY Pete

    WOW … Josh is a baller!

  • i was searching ny upper state sites fingerlakes offered not only vineyards but hikes caverns and the three lakes. it was in a magazene i recieved, i came quite close went to hunter and catskills instead and had a blast with are atvs and prime wilderness, omg ,

  • Ron

    I’ve been away from wine for a few months now, and what a great episode to jump back in on. First off, so glad to see a Finger Lakes in there. I was out there a few years ago for a work thing and the host wanted to take me out to the wineries, I had no expectations whatsoever, and was blown away. Second, great guest. I hope you have him on every year. And third, I will definitely be looking for the show next week where you taste that last one again. Ah, 400 dollar bottles of wine and the joys of vicarious wine appreciation!

  • Stephan

    Talking about complexity and big but elegant mouthfeel, with a long finish and never heavy… reminds me of a lot of the Alto Adige wines, the whites but also the reds! Thank you for the interesting and nice show!
    stephan

  • Ekenman

    I really like your show! Thanks!

  • NY Pete

    kudos GV … most excellent show …
    now if only your radio gig was as good … 😛

  • Kier

    loved this show! superb.
    QOTD: being an aussie, when i first got into wine about five years ago, shiraz was all i drank, and after a while, i began to always think “higher alcohol = better”. these days, my wine knowledge is far more varied, and i rarely drink those reds any more. maybe it’s a bit of a psychological thing but if i see a wine over 14.5% i probably wouldn’t buy it. on the other hand, i know that’s a silly principle because there are fortified reds (like our prized Rutherglen fortifieds here in Victoria) which i adore which can get up to 20%. another massive trend in australia is the lowering of alcohols of chardonnays, which are regularly at 13% and not 14.5%, which has given those wines much more balance and finesse.

  • Nice end to this two part episode. I’m really wanting a Viña Tondonia right about now…

    QOTD: To me, alcohol content has no impact whatsoever on my enjoyment because each bottle/brand/vintner represents work put into it by both man and nature, and you have to appreciate that in the most humble manner. Sure there are a few bottles that might sting due to over-processing and/or incorrect aging/storage but overall, alcohol content doesn’t have an impact on my buying decisions.

  • I absolutely adore this guest. and the celestine prophecy ideology of growing and cultivating, timing day vs. night, they are tended with conscious intention like plants do well with music plants do well with concious love and tender care, the biodynamics of cultivation of ingrediants in a skin care line i use Dr. Hushkas from germany use this process. they are consciously aware of time of day and thought and loved , and there content produces higher levels of the good dna vs untended chemically proves that depak chopras ageless body timeless mind tecniqhes work, loved the episode,

  • HAHAHAH thnx NYP!

  • Thank you, that means a lot to me!

  • That is such a good point, I really feel that the Alto Adige is a huge Gem in the wine world!

  • Ron we missed u man, seriously!

  • I really miss ur comments here!

  • Greg

    I’ve been watching the site in RSS for so long it’s been ages since I’ve opened the actual page. WLTV looks great, and I love the snazzy disqus comments!

  • We miss u Greg, get in here with some Comments!

  • Missatiejacket

    great episode.

    qotd: I tend to prefer lighter alcohol wines (under 14%) and drink those probably about 80-90% of the time. There are higher alcohol wines that I like a lot (Aubert Chard, Brewer-Clifton chard and pinot noir). I’ll gladly buy and drink any wine that I think is balanced (and good for a reasonable price, obviously). I do not look at %abv before buying a wine unless I have no other reliable information on that wine. I do my best not to look at %abv before tasting a wine no matter what as I know I am a bit prejudiced against some of the “big boys”. I am dumbfounded by those (buyers for stores or restaurants) who say they refuse to carry wines above x%abv. I think that closedminded attitude only hurts consumers. That said, it’s a bit less likely that I will enjoy a wine above 14%, much less above 15%, and even less that I’ll enjoy either with food. Lately I really like drinking things like German riesling and dry Lambrusco that come in under 12% because I can have more without getting drunk.

  • I love this guest. awesome episodes

    QOTD: i’ve been drinking more lighter wines lately, but heavy wines are nice with a big dinner or something. They are nice to drink sometimes, but hard to drink a lot

  • Anonymous

    QOTD: I don’t care, but I hate when the alcohol shows. I mean when its got too much heat on the backend. It can ruin a really nice wine for me. High alcohol content does not bother me at all, I just ask for balance.

  • Anonymous

    And may I just say, what an fantastic episode. Have not been quick with the comments lately, but been watching, but this show was awesome so had to answer the QOTD. Thank U so much for your email. I will send an email and ask for advice for my upcoming trip to Brazil in October and Barcelona in March. Thank U.

  • santabarbara

    Great show! Thank you. I love seeing such passion for what you do (I mean both of you). Love seeing guests when they are as knowledgeable and sincere as you, Gary.

    QOTD: me too, I ask for balance. Don’t care so much about the alcohol level. At this point I’m just enjoying different varietals; one day it’s 15.5%, the next day, 8%

  • Anonymous

    Great great show and wines.

    Did anyone notice Gary switch glasses when he rinses before last wine?, smooth move.

    qotd;medium to low is better

  • Alex T

    QOTD: Really depends on the wine, but I would rather not ‘notice’ the alcohol. I like to drink almost all wines at room temp, but I’ve learned that I have a bad tendency to let a wine sit for a while when the room temp is closer to 75 than 50, and things get too hot. I recently enjoyed a Cali Zin which was listed at a modest 14.6, but still had the body and flavor I look for, so I think for me I’m with Gary…85-90 under.

  • norcalking

    QOTD: Like dinosaurjr and murph pointed out, who shops alcohol content? Me, I taste it and say wow, what’s the alcohol on this? That is not the ideal wine experience.

    Other thoughts on this great episode;

    Josh mentioned that wine with a liqueur quality is not wine. Profound!

    Gary said something like, Did you ever think of taking it on the road, like to NYC, so I can go?
    Ouch. There is public transportation from WLTV to SF. Walk down Morris, hang a left, then up to the Short Hills Train Station. About a mile. Nice little workout. Plains, trains, busses. Bah Dah Bing.

    Finger Lakes?? I tasted there a little over ten years ago and, um, I need to try that Riesling.

    $430 dollar white?? Thirty year cellar life?? You guys are blowing my mind!!!

    Surprised how many major players who are guests on your show obviously don’t watch it much. Sniffy sniff, give it a whirl, question of the day. Easy. Little homework, movers and shakers.

    My score on this show, 92+ points

  • Anonymous

    Again, all time great guest. WLTV is getting better by the month, Bravo!

    QOTD: For drinking at home solo I’d say I’m 90% low alcohol, 5% big. WIth company I’ve really learned that pushing a Loire Cab Franc or Northern Rhone Red just doesn’t work most of the time for most people. However, I tend to enjoy those big red’s with company – there is something very fun about drinking them. Whereas with the low alcohol red’s I find there to be a much more rewarding personal experience. When I look back at that last sentence it seems silly at first, but the beauty of all this is that it is what it is – and that’s the best part!

    Hail to the Redskins!

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