EP 411 2005 Bordeaux Talk On The Heels Of The New Wine Spectator

Wine Spectators new 2005 bordeaux issue inspires this show of WLTV. Gary yaps about the wines and the vintage and the fact that tomorrow is the 2 year anniversary of this little show.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Chateau Luchey Halde BlancGraves/Pessac-Leognan
2005 Chateau Les Secrets De CardinaleSt Emilion

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qotd: some, definitely not a lot, can’t afford to roll like that

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  • Jeremy Q

    QOTD: Got in a bit late since I only started watching WLTV a year ago but have 30 bottles of mixed appelation. Now I just need to be patient !!

    Nice episode Gary … am huge fan of Bordeaux. Was in France a couple of weeks ago and was hoping to pick up some deals. It turns out the wines are even more expensive than what I can get here (eg: 2004 Pontet Canet was selling for 42 Euros compared to just under $50 here !)

  • Jeremy Q

    QOTD: Got in a bit late since I only started watching WLTV a year ago but have 30 bottles of mixed appelation. Now I just need to be patient !!

    Nice episode Gary … am huge fan of Bordeaux. Was in France a couple of weeks ago and was hoping to pick up some deals. It turns out the wines are even more expensive than what I can get here (eg: 2004 Pontet Canet was selling for 42 Euros compared to just under $50 here !)

  • Shadowbird

    QOTD: I’m likely not going to get to buy any before the price skyrockets. 🙁

  • Shadowbird

    QOTD: I’m likely not going to get to buy any before the price skyrockets. 🙁

  • agentorange

    SQOTD: I’m from Minnesota, which, contrary to popular belief, is not in America, But is actually adjacent to hell.

    QOTD: Rolling under the ’05 radar, which is to say, my wallet was as empty then as it is now.

    Huge shout-out to “cma82”. Love your comment, right there with you.

  • agentorange

    SQOTD: I’m from Minnesota, which, contrary to popular belief, is not in America, But is actually adjacent to hell.

    QOTD: Rolling under the ’05 radar, which is to say, my wallet was as empty then as it is now.

    Huge shout-out to “cma82”. Love your comment, right there with you.

  • Andrew H.

    Hey Gary,

    Unfortunately I live in Michigan and was unable to order futures of the 2005 Bordeaux from you or any other shop outside of MI. The local wine cellar wouldn’t allow me to purchase futures either. However, I was able to purchase 10, 2005 Bordeaux blends from the wine cellar. I can’t wait for spring time when I will be making a mad rush to the cellar the day they come in. Till then… more homework!

  • Andrew H.

    Hey Gary,

    Unfortunately I live in Michigan and was unable to order futures of the 2005 Bordeaux from you or any other shop outside of MI. The local wine cellar wouldn’t allow me to purchase futures either. However, I was able to purchase 10, 2005 Bordeaux blends from the wine cellar. I can’t wait for spring time when I will be making a mad rush to the cellar the day they come in. Till then… more homework!

  • FJDR

    SQOTD: I live in the capital of the Confederacy, Richmond, which was briefly part of a foreign country. Yeah I know, that doesn’t count.

    My 2005 Bordeaux story: _________________________________________.

  • FJDR

    SQOTD: I live in the capital of the Confederacy, Richmond, which was briefly part of a foreign country. Yeah I know, that doesn’t count.

    My 2005 Bordeaux story: _________________________________________.

  • QOTD: no bordeaux. I can’t roll that deep man, even the futures were way to expensive for me. I’m not in a place where I can squirrel it away, I need wines I can drink and enjoy now until I have a nice cellar.

    QOTD2: Canada baby!!!

  • Tommy Vernieri

    QOTD: We got two bottles each of Château de Reignac and Château Valrose Cuvée Alienor. I guess Château La Fleur des Pins Graves Supérieures doesn’t count, does it?

    All from you Gary =).

    It’s going to be really really hard to not drink them young.

  • QOTD: no bordeaux. I can’t roll that deep man, even the futures were way to expensive for me. I’m not in a place where I can squirrel it away, I need wines I can drink and enjoy now until I have a nice cellar.

    QOTD2: Canada baby!!!

  • Tommy Vernieri

    QOTD: We got two bottles each of Château de Reignac and Château Valrose Cuvée Alienor. I guess Château La Fleur des Pins Graves Supérieures doesn’t count, does it?

    All from you Gary =).

    It’s going to be really really hard to not drink them young.

  • Glenn

    Good show Gary, but truthfully, Bourdoux wines scare the hell out of me. The price point is way up there and my knowledge of Bourdoux is so low that I am afraid to spend the money on a wine from a region that rides the coatails of the major players and charges a price similar to theirs just because they can put Bourdoux on the label. I have tried the Mouton Cadet 2004 and thought it was good for the price and I have a 2005 Mouton Cadet white Bourdoux in the cabinet that I haven’t tried yet. There is my Bourdoux story as pitiful as it is.

  • Glenn

    Good show Gary, but truthfully, Bourdoux wines scare the hell out of me. The price point is way up there and my knowledge of Bourdoux is so low that I am afraid to spend the money on a wine from a region that rides the coatails of the major players and charges a price similar to theirs just because they can put Bourdoux on the label. I have tried the Mouton Cadet 2004 and thought it was good for the price and I have a 2005 Mouton Cadet white Bourdoux in the cabinet that I haven’t tried yet. There is my Bourdoux story as pitiful as it is.

  • Kirk (AKA: slave2thevine)

    QOTD: I have bought ZERO 2005 Bordeaux. I had an amazing oportunity to buy 3 bottles of 2000 Chateau Margaux for $500 a bottle and that took up all….ALL of my 2005 Bordeaux money. I would love to get some….but my state doesn’t offer futures. So I am only buying what I can…leagally this time. Hopefully I will find a bottle or two while I am down in NJ in a few weeks…but I’m not an overly serious Bordeaux lover.

  • Moselman

    Canadian here, but more to the point, a Canadian Senior Citizen. So as far as tasting goes, my concern for futures runs more to Ensure. And neither of my kids or their spouses are into wine (or alcohol). Where did we go wrong?

  • Kirk (AKA: slave2thevine)

    QOTD: I have bought ZERO 2005 Bordeaux. I had an amazing oportunity to buy 3 bottles of 2000 Chateau Margaux for $500 a bottle and that took up all….ALL of my 2005 Bordeaux money. I would love to get some….but my state doesn’t offer futures. So I am only buying what I can…leagally this time. Hopefully I will find a bottle or two while I am down in NJ in a few weeks…but I’m not an overly serious Bordeaux lover.

  • Moselman

    Canadian here, but more to the point, a Canadian Senior Citizen. So as far as tasting goes, my concern for futures runs more to Ensure. And neither of my kids or their spouses are into wine (or alcohol). Where did we go wrong?

  • Little Jonny H

    GV! It’s wonderful to have you back in real-time mode! I have to say, regarding the folks who didn’t like the Leocadie Minervois, I can understand why they wouldn’t be in love with it. I forgot that you had featured this wine on the show, and tasted it a few days ago without watching the thankgiving episode again (I like comparing your palate with mine). In short, if you don’t like black/white pepper, you simply wouldn’t like it. The beets and licorice are secondary, and much harder to pinpoint compared to the peppery notes. It was fantastic with a little grilled venison loin -the real thing, not that farm-raised stuff 😉

    My 2005 Bordeaux story? Well, about 3 months ago I tried my first red bordeaux (2001 vintage, but very old world and I love it). Since that day, I’ve spent more money in 2005 bordeaux than I’ve spent all other wine combined. No joke… and I can’t really afford it!

  • Little Jonny H

    GV! It’s wonderful to have you back in real-time mode! I have to say, regarding the folks who didn’t like the Leocadie Minervois, I can understand why they wouldn’t be in love with it. I forgot that you had featured this wine on the show, and tasted it a few days ago without watching the thankgiving episode again (I like comparing your palate with mine). In short, if you don’t like black/white pepper, you simply wouldn’t like it. The beets and licorice are secondary, and much harder to pinpoint compared to the peppery notes. It was fantastic with a little grilled venison loin -the real thing, not that farm-raised stuff 😉

    My 2005 Bordeaux story? Well, about 3 months ago I tried my first red bordeaux (2001 vintage, but very old world and I love it). Since that day, I’ve spent more money in 2005 bordeaux than I’ve spent all other wine combined. No joke… and I can’t really afford it!

  • Carlitos

    QOTD. Thankfully I was in pretty early with WLTV and listened to your advice on the ’05 Bordeaux and got all my futures from WL. I got a little over 5 cases of everything in the entry level under $50. You know, but the lesser stuff on good vintages and good stuff on lesser vintages. Plus I’ll have some early drinking bottles to give a try as we go. They include some of GV’s favorites like the Valrose Alienor, Croix de Gay, Pontac Lynch or Montviel and some of my favorites like Haut Bergey, Haut Bages Liberal or Marquis D’alesme Becker.

    BTW. When are they going to ship? Will you wait to receive all of them to start sending out?

    QOTD2. I was born in the States to Spanish parents, but was raised in Spain since I was three years old. I only came back when I was 25 and have been here now for 8 years. I travel a lot internationally for work and pleasure so I’ve watched WLTV from pretty much every in the world!

    Happy two year Anniversary! Here’s to many more years to come!

  • Carlitos

    QOTD. Thankfully I was in pretty early with WLTV and listened to your advice on the ’05 Bordeaux and got all my futures from WL. I got a little over 5 cases of everything in the entry level under $50. You know, but the lesser stuff on good vintages and good stuff on lesser vintages. Plus I’ll have some early drinking bottles to give a try as we go. They include some of GV’s favorites like the Valrose Alienor, Croix de Gay, Pontac Lynch or Montviel and some of my favorites like Haut Bergey, Haut Bages Liberal or Marquis D’alesme Becker.

    BTW. When are they going to ship? Will you wait to receive all of them to start sending out?

    QOTD2. I was born in the States to Spanish parents, but was raised in Spain since I was three years old. I only came back when I was 25 and have been here now for 8 years. I travel a lot internationally for work and pleasure so I’ve watched WLTV from pretty much every in the world!

    Happy two year Anniversary! Here’s to many more years to come!

  • diana n texas

    YeHawwww! LOVE THE SPAY/NEUTER message! Thanks for trying to spread the word Gary.

  • Lenny

    I just viewed episode 403, amd I think you need to make Pipes the WLTV Babe. She was great.
    Definitely brought in another dimension.

    Awesome!!

  • diana n texas

    YeHawwww! LOVE THE SPAY/NEUTER message! Thanks for trying to spread the word Gary.

  • Lenny

    I just viewed episode 403, amd I think you need to make Pipes the WLTV Babe. She was great.
    Definitely brought in another dimension.

    Awesome!!

  • Paul

    Don’t have any 05 Bordeaux put away, started watching you too late to catch the wave before the prices blew past my budget. Your passion about the vintage will have me looking at the local shops to see if any are available and affordable. Keep up the passion, spread the message and good luck on reaching your 2 year anniversary.

  • BSal

    I have been following your advice since the beginning. I have about 8 different cases to pick up this year and can’t wait to try them. I also orderd some big bottles. You were right on!

  • Paul

    Don’t have any 05 Bordeaux put away, started watching you too late to catch the wave before the prices blew past my budget. Your passion about the vintage will have me looking at the local shops to see if any are available and affordable. Keep up the passion, spread the message and good luck on reaching your 2 year anniversary.

  • BSal

    I have been following your advice since the beginning. I have about 8 different cases to pick up this year and can’t wait to try them. I also orderd some big bottles. You were right on!

  • JayZee

    QOTD: Gary, I hit the 2005 Bordeaux futures HARD, baby, VERY HARD. I’ve never bought so much wine before. While I have about 1,000 bottles in my cellar, I bought 8 cases!!! And I cannot WAIT to get them. I even ordered two magnums of the 2005 Sansonnet – just because. I have leaned heavily on your recommendations on this one and it looks like I won’t be disappointed. Thanks, Gary!

  • JayZee

    QOTD: Gary, I hit the 2005 Bordeaux futures HARD, baby, VERY HARD. I’ve never bought so much wine before. While I have about 1,000 bottles in my cellar, I bought 8 cases!!! And I cannot WAIT to get them. I even ordered two magnums of the 2005 Sansonnet – just because. I have leaned heavily on your recommendations on this one and it looks like I won’t be disappointed. Thanks, Gary!

  • Sonnenuhr

    QOTD Two (2) WL cases of 2005 futures. Should get more though!

    Need to get the Wine Spectator issue.

  • DHerbie

    QOTD – you convinced me early on to jump into the 2005 vintage. I don’t role too deep so I kept my purchases to the sub ~30 crowd, things like Caronne Ste Gemme, Haut-Bergey and that Sansonnet you were pushing. As I am young and still live in an apartment (sans good storage) I have a plan to place this deep in my parent’s basement, to be forgotten for 10 years…maybe…

  • Sonnenuhr

    QOTD Two (2) WL cases of 2005 futures. Should get more though!

    Need to get the Wine Spectator issue.

  • QOTD – you convinced me early on to jump into the 2005 vintage. I don’t role too deep so I kept my purchases to the sub ~30 crowd, things like Caronne Ste Gemme, Haut-Bergey and that Sansonnet you were pushing. As I am young and still live in an apartment (sans good storage) I have a plan to place this deep in my parent’s basement, to be forgotten for 10 years…maybe…

  • Len

    GV
    Another very good episode… very interesting, don’t have much in French wines, for the reason — one like you said..the price, the higher the rating with the most popularity, through the roof….the other problem is when is the proper time to drink it which is usually 10+ years or more. Don’t want the wine to out live me but will give both the white bordeaux Luchey Halde a try and cellar the Ch. Les Secrets if still available.

    Thanks again for answering my e-mail ( the question was on my wine cellar vs wines )

    Lurker Len

  • Len

    GV
    Another very good episode… very interesting, don’t have much in French wines, for the reason — one like you said..the price, the higher the rating with the most popularity, through the roof….the other problem is when is the proper time to drink it which is usually 10+ years or more. Don’t want the wine to out live me but will give both the white bordeaux Luchey Halde a try and cellar the Ch. Les Secrets if still available.

    Thanks again for answering my e-mail ( the question was on my wine cellar vs wines )

    Lurker Len

  • GR8wine

    Hey GV,
    Beautiful color on that white Bordeaux, too bad you didn’t give us a closeup look. I think in the past you would’ve likened it to the goldilocks of Hulk Hogan.
    White Bordeaux is great but it’s so hard to find a thunderous but affordable example. The one in the Christmas pack was good but do you have a few others up your sleeve?
    QOTD: nothing — cash flow situation just didn’t allow it.

  • GR8wine

    Hey GV,
    Beautiful color on that white Bordeaux, too bad you didn’t give us a closeup look. I think in the past you would’ve likened it to the goldilocks of Hulk Hogan.
    White Bordeaux is great but it’s so hard to find a thunderous but affordable example. The one in the Christmas pack was good but do you have a few others up your sleeve?
    QOTD: nothing — cash flow situation just didn’t allow it.

  • Ben N.

    QOTD: Chateau Haut Bergey Rouge 2005, Chateau Caronne Sainte Gemme 2005, Chateau De La Cour D’argent 2005 That was all I could afford. And waiting for delivery.

  • Ben N.

    QOTD: Chateau Haut Bergey Rouge 2005, Chateau Caronne Sainte Gemme 2005, Chateau De La Cour D’argent 2005 That was all I could afford. And waiting for delivery.

  • amgryger

    QOTD: I graduated from college last May and was essentially broke, but used gift money that I recieved to put together a mixed case of Haut Brisson, Fiezual Rouge, Pontac Lynch Quintessence, and Valrose Cuvee Alienor.

  • amgryger

    QOTD: I graduated from college last May and was essentially broke, but used gift money that I recieved to put together a mixed case of Haut Brisson, Fiezual Rouge, Pontac Lynch Quintessence, and Valrose Cuvee Alienor.

  • Fraser Gould

    I’m in Tokyo, where EVERYTHING is Bordeaux…I think most wine shops here dedicate almost half of their shelf space to the stuff. Still pretty easy to find 2005’s here, but I don’t really know what I should be looking for. Should be doing my homework, I guess.

  • Fraser Gould

    I’m in Tokyo, where EVERYTHING is Bordeaux…I think most wine shops here dedicate almost half of their shelf space to the stuff. Still pretty easy to find 2005’s here, but I don’t really know what I should be looking for. Should be doing my homework, I guess.

  • Grapedigger

    Canada loves you GV…Keep it up man!
    I started hunting for some of 05 Bordeaux that can be afforded (especially when paying Canadian prices)!! Cheers

  • Grapedigger

    Canada loves you GV…Keep it up man!
    I started hunting for some of 05 Bordeaux that can be afforded (especially when paying Canadian prices)!! Cheers

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