EP 878 Thai Food and Wine Pairing

Gary Vaynerchuk shares some food and wine pairing advice. Today he eats some Thai food and pairs it with a Gruner Veltliner and a Gewurztraminer.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2007 Loimer Gruner Veltliner TerrassenWachau White
2008 Nals Margreid GewurztraminerAlto Adige

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  • Melisa Taylor

    I had 3 gewurtz lately; Hugel did not like much, Arthur Metz was very seductive/tropical/thick/complex and so was the Columbia Winery 2007 (but with more apple cider flavour to me)…
    Sipping right now on a Domaine du Tariquet, famille Grassa 2009 Les Premières Grives…very nice fruity/onctuous (Gros Manseng)
    Love your show! watching it all the way from Quebec city, Canada 🙂

  • Anonymous

    GVeltliner goes with Salmon?

  • Don Simpson

    It's time to get back to basics, I just haven't been feeling it the past couple weeks with all the guests. Need the Thunder Saddle, some wines, and GV.

    QOTD: I had a really tasty white wine from Spain that was 70% Parellada 30% Muscat that really brought the thunder. It wasn't very expensive (maybe 12 bones) and brought tremendous mouthfeel, peach, tropical fruit, and floral. It was delicious and very good for price.

  • I haven't really ventured into much of the Whites yet, although after the Sopranos episode where you rated that pinot pretty high it makes me want to start there! Where would be a good place to start on the white side of things? All comments welcome!!!

    On another note: Anyone got a good iPhone wine App recommendation!

    Lovin' it Gary! Keep it up. Just do what you do. Guest or not it's great!

  • Zo

    MacMurray Chardonnay. It was pretty tasty. Your typical California Chard, yet not too buttery or oaky.

  • kdsipe

    Dude, you were so surprised by the quality of the Loimer gruner veltliner! I'm a long time fan, his rieslings are good too.

    Also, you keep saying “mochi” when I think you mean “goji” (berry). Not criticizing, just wondering.

    QOTD: 2008 Quinta dos Roques Dão Branco. Day 1: Tropical, sweet and disjointed. Day 4: Balanced, mineral and fresh with ripping acidity. Wine never ceases to amaze me.

  • lucresmith

    I like when it's just you , and when you get into the info and bring some thunder. Food is an okay guest every once in a while, especially if it's cheese! 🙂
    QOTD: Can'r recall the name, but had a nice glass of Sancerre out at dinner the other night. Also, while certainly not the best, I tried a Gewürztraminer recently. It wasn't awful on the palette but it smelled like a diaper (thankfully fresh). Just couldn't get past the awkward nose.

  • I've been looking for a good Gewurtz and also not impressed with Hugel. Will look for Arthur Metz. Thanks.

  • sapdog

    Had the Rabl Spiegel 2005 GV recently and found it had a lot of mineral and smoke notes to it. Wasn't sure I liked it all that much – until paired with some baked kale chips (recipies all over the net). The combo was brilliant – the minerality of the wine – with the roasted, bitterness of a crisp baked leafy green. Bam. I love GV and always wonder why virtually nobody other than the Austrians grow it.

    QOTD – lI would have to skip the Rabl GV and go to the Gibbston Highgate Estate Heartbreaker Chardonnay – tasted at the Toronto New Zealand Wine Fair (ok mayby 55 days ago). Lovely balanced Chard in a room full of Sauvignon Blanc – this wine showed beautifully.

  • Kevin76

    I enjoyed this episode Gary. I was especially intrugued by how you would go about pairing a wine with Thai food. I was always under the impression that this would be difficult to do so I was interested to see the types of wine you would try. I think the food/wine pairing shows are great – not too serious and I've learned more in 10 minutes on my lunch break than I ever knew about Thai food and wine. How about some spicy Chinese or Indian food for some future shows?

  • johnfarrin

    QOTD:2009 Alexander Valley Vineyards Gewurtz. High retail $8.99. I buy this every year at Bevmo's buy one, get a second for 5-cents sale. Usually they mark the first bottle up so that you're actually getting about a 25-30% discount instead of 50%. For some reason they don't on this wine so you actually end up paying $5.02/bottle. The 2006 was unbelieveable, the 2007 close to that and while the 2009 had a tad (one of your shoulder moves) too much sugar it still has that crisp acidity that makes it very refreshing. It also has beautiful aromatics. Can you tell I like this wine?

  • ErieWineGuy

    Anything you do for a show is terrific. You always mix it up.

    Food is good, no food is good – it's all Good!

    (But actually, I do occasionally enjoy wine pairings with different meat and cheeses from your Gourmet Library).

    QOTD: I'm really having fun on cheap, frizzante style Vinho Verde – chilled, on these warm evenings while watching WLTV.

    Yes, I taste and evaluate wine room temp, then later bottles I enjoy chilled.

    Thanks again Gary for a fun way to relax in the evening – sipping wine and watching wine!

  • Mmdynamite

    The food pairing is interesting & useful for me.
    QOTD a yen5,000 Burgundy Blanc

    MJR
    Tokyo

  • ONUMello

    I love Thai food!
    QOTD: 2007 Dr. Konstantin Frank Riesling Dry
    Glad to see some whites here! They've been strangely absent on Cindy the past few weeks!

  • Gobi

    hmm good white wine…. since my family is from India.. the majority of what I eat during the week is Indian dishes… had a really good pairing with a spicy cauliflower and potatoe dish (aloo gohbi) & roti (indian flat bread) and a Montes late harvest gewurtz… the sweetness and that zing at the end counterbalanced the spiciness and the texture of the dish….

    Also another good try I've had is my mom's potatoe and chicken samosas, with a 3 or 4 puttonyos tokaji… again the sweetness cuts across the spices (anise, cumin, etc…) while the orange peel and slight acidity cleanse your palate… and the weight of the wine go with the oily and mushy texture of the samosas….

    Well and non white… Goat curry (raised from my own farm, and cutting back on the spicess so its very mild) with basmati rice, seem to go well with a good full bodied syrah… Ventisquiero Pangea was the last one i paired with this dish…

    As for the program… the more nerdy the better… I want to learn.. and if it involves food pairings im all for it… how about some Indian food next time!

  • A dumb Rhein king

    GV air quotes make a come back 🙂

    For the Gruner, did you taste the quartz stuffed in the cow horn?

    QOTD: I had a Chenin Blanc on Saturday. Crap, I can't remember whether I liked it or not though. It was in the middle of a Malbec, Cab, Frontenac (wine I made), raspberry dessert wine, and 2 different aged ports … so a busy night.

    QOTD2: I personally like the basics. I would consider the head to heads and bpb eps basics also. The food I like every once in a while, but not all the time. I like that you got the cheese from Gourmet Library on the show. mmmm … I'm totally going to go stuff my face with some goat cheese.

  • Jrouss

    Great show, but I think I like it better with just the wine and without the food. The food just seems to take away from the wine. I mean we don't watch you eat a steak when you drink a cab or syrah. I think if it is an occasional pairing show, sure have at it but by and large I think you can just tell us what the wine pairs well with without watching the actual eating of the food.

    As far as QOTD I would say a FireRoad Sauvignon Blanc and as far as Gruners I really like MoVelt, that was the first Gruner I ever had loved it and basically always try new gruners because of it.

  • Stan The Wine Man

    Gary,
    Just a thought… If you do a wine and food pairing, spend some time talking about why the wines go with the food, your thoughts as you are eating the food and drinking the wine. You have done this before and it was quite interesting.
    The best white I have tried in the past 45 days is The Crossings sauvignon blanc out of New Zealand. Crazy nose of minerals, lemon, lime and banana nut bread. Loved it! The palate was wild filling the mouth like a carnaval ride with racy acidity, mineral notes, lemon zest, lime and only slight hits of grapefruit. Only ten bucks and I am lov'in it.

  • Le_M

    Nice little show to start the day.

    QOTD:
    Dopff & Irion Riesling, Alsace.
    Bought in their own shop in the village under the wineyards. Very good.

  • dsallen

    After all the other stuff lately, basic is good. Put the “fun-” back into “fundamental” Vaynerchuk!

  • yeah im into the back to the basics. pretty good episode. i'm into doing 3 or 4 wines and throwing in some brown paper bags maybe once a week.
    QOTD: had a pretty good gruner a few weeks ago, can't remember the name. had the oyster bay pinot noir today, was not a fan.

  • Patrick Schmidt

    QOTD: I particularly liked three dry German Rieslings, the “2008 Van Volxem Riesling Fuder 13” for its minerality and nice mouth-feel (89), the “2006 Schloss Johannisberger Riesling Grünlack Spätlese Trocken” for its good weight and nice grapefruit flavours (88), and the fantastic 2007 Balthasar Ress “Von Unserm S” for its depth and balance (90)

  • Liz

    I love food pairings, love thai food and think you can can do whatever you want and it will be entertaining @garyvee. Your fan @iwalkthevine

  • Ha, my favorite was a Trimbach Gewürztraminer. Or maybe it was because I had it with some fresh Halibut, and I was all excited. I picked up some apple flavors, which was exciting because I usually go with the 'hint of fermented grape' line.

  • john Rogers

    Great seeing you get back to basics. Not much about the food(did you like it)? I am trying to include more white wines and the gruner varietal sounds interesting. Please keep the show this way for a while.

    QOTD; The wine that stood out was St. Michelle Harvest Select Riesling 2009. Great acid and although sweet not cloying. It also has good lenght with lots of fruit especially when it warms up a bit from the frig.

  • castello

    I've had a few good whites lately. Bandl or something was pretty good reisling. Good show but you need Sasha to eat the food. Do we still get to tour his wine cave?

  • QOTD: Had 2008 Leth Gruner Veltliner in april. Worst Leth (they are usually really good) I had, Nice crisp smell of lychee, starfruit and minerals. Taste was similar , initially good acid, mid palate lost firmness and taste and the back end was way to watery to be good.

  • King of "Pape"

    I drank the William Selyem Chenin Blanc which was great, and if are counting sparkling as white wine then I had a great Pierre Gimonnet.
    Guests are fine as long as the wine is good.
    I always like the sparkling episodes, maybe some Otago?

  • Thats easy my friend: Both were Rieslings – a 2000 Oestricher Lehnchen Spätlese and a 2005 Oestricher Doosberg Erstes Gewächs both from Peter Jakob Kühn out of the Rheingau! Both 95 point type wines. Killer stuff!
    Can't wait to see the big Riesling EP!

  • imskyhigh

    i like seeing the food pairings a lot

  • YoungDave

    SOLID EP! And I like the food pairing concept, especially because I DO NOT think that the food got in the way of the regular flow of the show. I only wish the Gewurztraminer showed better…

    QOTD: BEST white in the last 45 days: 2004 Marc Morey Rully 1er Cru Rabource.

  • MarcBelgium

    Happy to see a basic show. Just wine, wine, wine.
    And, as far as I'm concerned, no food. Just the real thing.

    QOTD. A lot, but you asked the best. An Italian from Campania: Cutizzi Feudi di San Gregorio, 2008. A very nice, elegant wine.

  • Ma2Castle

    07 Hardys HRB Chardonnay – Margaret River/Pemberton/Adelaide Hills Regional Blend

  • SlowWineLover

    QOTD: Sepp Moser- Gruner Veltliner Breiter Rain 2006

    Gary: Enjoying food and wine together with friends and family is one of the great things in life. Unfortunately, I think many people don't drink wine with food and many who do, are a little lost when it comes to pairing the two components. Bearing this in mind, I think it is fundamentally important to either do pairings on the show, or to try and suggest a pairing, after giving your assesment of the wine (which I know you sometimes do). Thanks for your great work.

  • Gubbiotti

    about 4 weeks ago, i opened a bottle of o6 jo pithon, coteaux de layon 4 villages. HOLY SHIT it was good. i had it with an apple tart – BOOM. it would have been breat with rich fish and cream. the color was gorgous! o6 is considered not a great year in the loir for whites – it just showed me that is not just great bottles and not great wine, it is also great wine and not great vintages.
    i recommend this wine to everyone.

  • castello

    bpb?

  • Haha nice coincidence. We had this Gruner Veltliner combined yesterday with superb Vietnamese food in Brussels.
    Excellent combination.

  • castello

    I'll try that one. Thanks!

  • ND

    Not big on the food pairings, except when the food becomes a central piece of the show i.e. when you paired with cheese not too long ago.

    We've been drinking almost exclusively vinho verde for whites during the past month and a half! Love it in the summer!

  • castello

    he said the ice cream once to verify it was mochi

  • Ha! That made my day. Are you trying to say not underestimate the true power of the Brown Bag? We shall see Darth Randall, we shall see. *insert lightsaber sound* Wait, you mean I have to actually KNOW what I am talking about? Pshaw. *grumble* I’ll try 😉

    PS. And don’t worry, I have more of a chance of filling my foot with rock salt than hitting you.

  • Hey Gary

    1. Back to basics is good.
    2. Food is OK, if you talk about it – the Thai food today was kind of an afterthoguht and seemed to be ignored
    3. Brown paper bagsa are very good
    4. Knowledge is good
    5. Guests can be good if they bring something
    6. Most guests are not good as they are trying to sell soemthing, rather than bring something.

    QOTD: Big call, had some decent Rieslings – Petuluma Hannlin Hill was good – and also really enjoyed some vintage blanc de blanc Champagne.

    Cheers
    Andrew

  • QOTD: If we stay on the theme of this episode.
    Alto Adige Valle Isarco Veltliner DOC , Cantina Valle Isarco

  • RichieHell

    Oldschool! I like it! Keep it up GV.
    QOTD: 2009 Knipse Pinot Planc / Chardonnay and the 2009 Stallmann-Hiestand Sauvignon Blanc.

  • drt999

    Nothing outstanding over the last 45 days, a bunch I rated 87s — good solid wines, the last being a 2007 Jean-Claude Bougrier Vouvray

  • pacw808

    Hey Nico! Too bad the Crush It Cruise never came to be. Dan and I were hoping to see you guys there! Have a great summer and enjoy those Rieslings! Last Fall I had one of the best Rieslings of my life: 2007 Monchhof Kabinett by Robert Eymael, Urzig Wurtzgarten (place) Mosel. It was sublime!

  • DAveAll

    ya nailed it! 1-6. me too!

  • Agreed, Will adjust!

  • DavidDallas

    I think you should continue to do food and wine pairings. I think that most wine critics ignore the food aspect of wine, i.e. the purpose of wine in general, and then sip and spit wine as a cocktail. I normally drink wine with food, and find that most highly rated wines do not pair well with food. My goal is to enhance my dinner, not get to drunk or to buy wines for spitting, so I think that food/wine pairing is very important.

    While on that topic, I think that you should do an episode exclusively on the principles of food/wine pairings. Discuss acidity, alcohol levels, tannins, and sweetness in how they contributes to a wine's ability to pair well with food.

  • DavidDallas

    One more idea: Do a brown bag/food and wine pairing. See which wines pair well with a given food without knowing anything about the wines. Results can be interesting. See how well Riesling competes with other wines in the pairings.

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