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EP 912 Victory Brewing Tasting- Part II

Gary Vaynerchuk concludes the tasting with Bill Covaleski from Victory Brewing and talks more about the beer world.

Beers tasted in this episode:

Pilsner Urquell
Prima Pils
Oktoberfest Marzen
Victory Festbier


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luca bercelli

93/100

Line of the day ‘you Laker fans are full of crap’

Great episode

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  • Anonymous

    Speaking of which, if GV is really serious about doing the beer episodes more frequently, he really, really, *really* needs to have Sam Calagione of Dogfish Head on the show.

  • Anonymous

    I love an ice cold Pilsner Urquel! You insult my taste buds!

  • Anonymous

    I’ve only had it in bottles and it was just ok. I’ll have to search for a tapped one.

  • Anonymous

    Well said. You’re not FOS but to many of us wine has many more options. As GV says once you’ve had a particular beer that is it. Wine changes much more than beer.

  • Anonymous

    Do your own beer show.

  • King of Pape

    QOTD: I think the beer community is becoming more competitive.
    Both beer drinkers and beer makers are profiting from the competition.
    But growth will be hard. Pliny will never sell for Insignia prices.
    The market likes the small production.
    Would Russian River Brewing Co. still be as cool if it were as big as Sierra Nevada or Anchor Steam?

  • Anonymous

    Great show guys. Reading the comments you have many self proclaimed experts calling Gary out on this one. Some say Pilsner Urquel IS the yellow tail of the beer world. Some like me think it’s the best thing ever put in a green beer bottle.

  • Allan

    Yo! AndersN, YEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!

    😛

  • Great ep, great guest!

  • GO BLUE!

  • Allan

    Urquell is just soo darn tasty for my pal. Agree 100 wit u

  • Eacarrr

    GV… If your urine looks like that beer…. Go see a doctor

  • C-Daddy

    Damn good questions Gary.

  • Phil

    Great two part interview,as a engish man who likes his warm real ale it was a pleasure to watch two people who are passionate about their subject.Found it interesting how you used your experienced taste buds from the wine industry and used them to great effect in the beer tasting.I have just come across your site,love it!!!!!!Keep up the good work and I look forward to more amazing espisodes.Phil

  • Randall

    ANY beer in green bottles is at major risk of being lightstruck and turned skunky. In the BA you ought to be able to find a place that has both on tap. Give it the old head-to-head… maybe you’ll agree w/ me…

  • waynooo daaa wino

    I WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNTS SOOOOMME VIIINOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
    :oD

  • So sorry Joe , I get it! Will adjust!

  • purplegrillz

    Initially did not want to watch this 2 parter, but really fun to watch. I live in Lambertville NJ so I think a trip to the brewery is in order. Sounds awesome, I first learned about the family aspect of European beer culture at Bohemian Hall Beer Garden in Queens NY. Great experience. GV should really do a show from there so people can see the drastic difference in atmosphere for a traditional bar or even a brew pub.

    I have loved Prima Pils for years, it is awesome on draft.

    QOTD… don’t know… I was rocking Transformers and Legos 78-84.

  • Anonymous

    I was a Total Bud fan in my 20s-30s. Shifted to Naty Light in me 40s (I was Gaining Body Mass) lol —FAT!. Was told by my Ex never to drink Ice Beers again! Too hot & made me Stupid! Now I’m a Wino! But I had a Client of mine turn me on to a Couple Bottles of his Home Brew Wheat Beer. Wow! I’m now looking to try more of these. I may even get the Brewing Tools to Place along the Wine tools now!
    Great Guest! Loved the Show.
    QOTD: As the Wine Makers here in SoCal had changed Locations since the 70’s, I believe the Beer world has done a Major change as well. I never heard of a “Micro Brewery” until the 90’s.
    M~R

  • i’ve heard the common saying among winemakers that “it takes a lot of beer to make great wine”…
    When I was younger I definitely consumed significant amounts of the brew, even though I’m not a big guy, and I do still enjoy a quaff…did some brewing with my brother and friends, was a very early adopter of the Long Trail Ale, and had a favorite seat at the end of the tasting bar back at the old brewery in the Bridgewater Mill Mall…but the siren song of the vine called me away from the grain and towards the grape.

  • Great show. Definitely want to try more beer…and more wine. Life is short!

  • Paulaner got kind of slammed. Hurts me a little being a former Munich resident.

  • Anonymous

    That is indeed how the saying goes, and for me at least it seems to gold true. I don’t believe I will keep my current rate of consumption of beer, but for the time being I will enjoy it as much as I can. The last two years or so wine has thoroughly worked it’s way into my system, I hopefully will never stop drinking it.

  • Anonymous

    QOTD: I wasn’t around back in ’78 so I can’t comment for sure, but I definitely think the American craft beer scene is strong, there’s already more out there than I can reasonably drink and much of that is getting extreme respect both here and abroad. I enjoy American beer over beer from other parts of the world 80+ percent of the time.

  • Gary,

    Awesome job on this interview and the Garrett Oliver one as well. You do seem to have a knack for picking out flavors. Would love to see you do more interviews with more brewmasters as I am a “beer guy.” You do a great job interviewing.

    Cheers,

    Drew
    http://365beers.wordpress.com

  • Only way to survive 🙂

  • okidoki. Ever in my country, look me up I’ll treat you to wine tasting

  • Atalante

    I’m guessing this the first time Gary has said that he hates a former guest 🙂

  • Nilo Lemos

    In Brazil there are many good beers beeing developed in the last few years. Here are four brewers I like the best and the beer i most like is Pilsner.
    Cervejaria Colorado
    Cervejaria Baden Baden
    Cervejaria Terezópolis
    Cervejaria Devassa

  • Simon

    QOTD: Don’t know about the American market, but the Canadian market loves micro-breweries and has a good appreciation for premium beers. Have you tried to export your beers to Québec or Ontario?

  • Gary: Thank you for finally not spitting your beer once! I’m ever so happy you made it a whole hour without spitting your beverage, I know it’s habit, but it’s not the beer way. Great episode man. Keep up the good work. Cheers!

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think that fruit beers usually get much respect. I’ve always felt like alot of people think of fruit beer as similar to a Smirnoff ice, like if you’re a dude you better not get caught drinking one. However, I like one fruit beer alot. It’s Called Wheach, it’s made by the O’fallon brewery in Missouri and I’m not sure about it’s availability in other states. I believe that it is their summer seasonal, and its made with Missouri peaches. It’s insanely good.

  • akius

    Fruit beers get a lot of respect from most beerheads, at least the ones who have crossed my path. However it is probably mainly the lambic-styled beers that get the true recognition as “real” beer. If you look at brewerys like Cantillon they have an amazing following, at least where I live.

    QOTD: I acctually think the american beers are past that point, I imagine (I wasnt born back then and dont acctually know enough about the history to say for sure) that american wine had a surge because of increasing quality especially dollar for dollar, compared to the old-world alternatives. American craft-brew is so expensive that I often can get better local beer at a better price, but I guess that was exactly the point you pointed out – geography matters.

    My english is not perfect and I appologize for that.

    CKC from the Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm Sweden.

  • Anonymous

    Enjoyed the show very much. Liked the give and take between you two. A lot of insight to the micro brewery phase of beer.

  • This episode was EPIC. This is great Gary. As a fan of this show I am more a beer drinker than wine. However I drink both often. I could really get used to some of the beer episodes coming now and then. Also the Prima Pils is one of the best pilsners out there in my opinion 🙂

  • Did you say that you hate Gretzky? I’m sure the guest of episode #660 would be quite sad to hear that…

  • Anonymous

    Generally I would agree with you. That is the curse and blessing of both beer and wine. With beer, it can be reproduced relatively easily. Once you have a recipe right, you can continue to make a very similar product over and over. For the most part, beer does not mature. However, many of the newer “monster” or “uber” beers will mature with time, many for up to five years. Belgian beers and pretty much any beer that is bottle conditioned and not filtered will age as well. They are living much like wines are and do condition in the bottle. Put beer in a cellar, and you can keep them even longer. One of the differences is that people do not treat beer the way the treat wine. They ignore provenance … probably because there is less money at stake generally. Even the great bomber beers rarely cost over $15. However, I had the opportunity to try an Ommegang brew (I believe it was their original Ommegang bottle) that was cave conditioned in a cave near Cooperstown, NY. It was left there at a constant 50F for only 6 months. I tried it side by side with their regularly released Ommegang and the differences were phenomenal! Wine on the other hand is nearly impossible to replicate. I am sure that Bordeaux wishes they could produce 2005 year in and year out. However, it does have the added mystique of changing and being so dependent on nature.

  • Joe L

    What i mean Melba is that there are so many here that seem to love every show. Every single one. I didn’t say “this” show sucked, although some, very infrequently do. Gary is a big boy and doesn’t need YES men/women to defend his show.

    I truely believe he appreciates a little constructive criticism when warranted. I love this show and have told many friends about it. But please don’t jump on me when i feel the need to express an honest negative reaction to ONE show.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you too. Pilsner Urquel is definitely not the yellow tail of the beer world. AB is, without question. Pilsner Urquel and Budvar (strangely similar name, hence the legal battles) are what Pilsners are SUPPOSED to taste like … you are supposed to be able to taste/smell the Saaz hops that makes these beers unique.. They may not be perfect here due to being shipped across a large ocean, but they are definitive of the style. P.S. try Sam Adams Noble Pils. I am not a big pilsner fan, but this stuff is DEE-LISH!

  • Hey Joe. I’m sorry if you felt I was jumping on you. I really wasn’t. You said before that you were a newbie so when you state that a lot of people seem to love every single show I have to disagree. I have been on only for a year or so and in that time I have seen everyone (even me) who post has disagreed or criticized Gary on one show or another. Trust me, Constructive criticism abounds.

    So on that note….I shall see you in the comments! 🙂

  • Anonymous

    Great guest and great episode but I have no idea what to say to his question maby you should tell you guest to make their questions multiple choice from now on
    Shane

  • Randall

    That’s true. When beer is judged, we don’t spit. Of course, we only do a couple of flights per table…

    ;P

  • TheSmirkingLurker

    This 2 part beer show with Bill from Victory was ****EPIC****. I LOVED it. There was so much to learn. Bill was gracious and super intelligent, and you, Gary, picked up on that, and did a MUCH BETTER job of not dominating. DO THIS AGAIN in the FUTURE. It was RAD.

  • TheSmirkingLurker

    This 2 part beer show with Bill from Victory was ****EPIC****. I LOVED it. There was so much to learn. Bill was gracious and super intelligent, and you, Gary, picked up on that, and did a MUCH BETTER job of not dominating. DO THIS AGAIN in the FUTURE. It was RAD.

  • Noleesk

    i drink “fin du monde” beer all the time. Biggggupppp to quebec beer!

  • Varanids

    QOTD: born in ’84, but I would guess that beer is further along than wine was…

    For the South American beer, check out Jerome brewery from Mendoza, Argentina. By far the most interesting SA producer I’ve had.

  • Varanids

    QOTD: born in ’84, but I would guess that beer is further along than wine was…

    For the South American beer, check out Jerome brewery from Mendoza, Argentina. By far the most interesting SA producer I’ve had.

  • CV

    QOTD: Bill,
    IMHO, the reason American, and or “New World” wines can’t compete, on an absolute level with Europe or the “Old World”, is because of the lack terroir and no rules. Europe is very structured, kind of like boxing. That is, a wine of a given region tastes like that region plus the grape of which it is made. I smell it, I taste it, I am immediately taken in my mind to where it came from. In the mind of a serious wine drinker, you are always looking for the land, the ground, the minerals and the acid along with the fruit. I would expect nothing less. Hard to do in the “New World”, it’s like a knife fight. Rules? In a knife fight? There are no rules. But still, you have watched the best, float like a butterfly and sting like a bee.
    As a beer maker in the “New World”, you are free of these shackles. I mean this in the best possible way. You pay homage to the “Old World” in style, but Micro Beer making in America is as free and beautiful as an Impressionist painting. You can approach it with no preconceived ideas. It just hits your plate like a rainbow. Like baking, it’s about quality of ingredient, and an expert hand, much less about the dirt and the rocks.
    I must admit that as a wine drinker, I have been just blown away by how many UNBELIEVABLY GREAT Micro breweries there are in your part of the country. Can’t wait to try some of yours!
    Best wishes, and thank you and Gary for a wonderful show.

  • Interesting show! Very knowledgeable guest really knew his stuff… great to see you guy bringing the thunder and getting right in to it!

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